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Toyota Land Cruiser Prado - Wikipedia
Wiki says that it is proper hybrid
Here is a snap from the installation video above, seems to have extra train plug for the electric motor between ICE and transmission:
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What are you basing ROI on?Financial and length of time for me using current Maine prices. I had it in another post as well. I suppose if you're doing a ton of miles, 20,000mi/yr or truly need a ton of range then it might be acceptable price-wise. I cannot currently justify the price of tank+install.
I still don't understand.Financial and length of time for me using current Maine prices. I had it in another post as well. I suppose if you're doing a ton of miles, 20,000mi/yr or truly need a ton of range then it might be acceptable price-wise. I cannot currently justify the price of tank+install.
Based on the video, I have a little more than 99% confidence this is built for Chinese market LC250s and not USDM LC250s. The underside of that Prado is totally different than our LCs. If this were legit, the Chinese company would do the R&D and ship from the US. Selling the tanks within US would protect US buyers of the product a lot more against defects or fraud.So, I'm going to take one for the team and give it a shot. My order is in as of today, I have a 1270 mile one-way road trip coming up in December and if this works I can do it with just two fills!
Pray for me, lol
Wikipedia info does not necessarily come from Toyota, but there may be some similarities between the two. The mystery deepens IMO because the China spec Prado TX, WX grades have a six-seat configurations available (according to press releases). We've always been told no more than 5 is possible because of the iForce Max powertrain. ... Maybe someone here has better info?![]()
Toyota Land Cruiser Prado - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Wiki says that it is proper hybrid
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Here is a snap from the installation video above, seems to have extra train plug for the electric motor between ICE and transmission:
Alright major update guys.
I exchanged half a dozen emails with the FK Offroad guy. Here are the key takeaways:
- First off, their cs rep's English is excellent. Better than most domestic reps. They are also extremely responsive during chinese business hours.
- I provided my VIN and a photo, their design team is confident the unit will fit without any issues.
- Install is plug and play, totally nondestructive. They provided an install video:
- As you an see from the video, the welds look extremely nice and it appears to be a quality unit.
- It utilizes all of the OEM connections and fuel pump; the truck shouldn't know any difference. They stressed you must use the OEM fuel pump, and don't attempt to use an aftermarket fuel gauge or different pump as it will cause issues. Fuel light will come on with approximately 15L of gas left (4 gal). So approximately 25ga of usable gas until light trips.
- Item ships within 2 days, goes in a container and +/- 45 days to the US. Comes packed in a wooden crate. US delivery handled by a trucking line.
- It ships DDP, which is door to door and includes duties and the like paid by the seller. Shipping cost is $330, so landed cost is around $1550. That was a custom quote to my location (I'm in the pacific northwest). It will show free shipping when you check out but it also says shipping will be handled after the order. You have to get a quote from their customer service before ordering to see your cost. The shipping is paid on a second invoice they send you after you order.
- They take PayPal, among other things. Paypal provides robust buyer protections against just about any issues you can encounter, including items that are misrepresented or do not fit or don't work.
- I have an email that in very good detail and extremely clearly states that if it doesn't fit as advertised, they will make it right with a full refund. Saved that one for the future, obviously to help with any paypal dispute should it come to that.
I did not ask about CARB compliance or CA emissions or any of that stuff. Because A, I don't really care and B, I already know the answer...I'm sure they don't know or won't promise it. That said, I just dropped another email to the guy and will update when I hear back.
So, I'm going to take one for the team and give it a shot. My order is in as of today, I have a 1270 mile one-way road trip coming up in December and if this works I can do it with just two fills!
Pray for me, lol
Can you please provide specific differences?Based on the video, I have a little more than 99% confidence this is built for Chinese market LC250s and not USDM LC250s. The underside of that Prado is totally different than our LCs.
Yep… the classic “we’ve always been told” routine: the massive battery pack supposedly explains everything — smaller fuel tank, no third row, and probably why you can’t even get one in Nori Green. Funny how the battery gets the blame, yet nobody can explain exactly why beyond "that thing is freaking huge". That “massive” pack takes up a whole three inches, and therefore would make a third row utterly impossible. Right....Wikipedia info does not necessarily come from Toyota, but there may be some similarities between the two. The mystery deepens IMO because the China spec Prado TX, WX grades have a six-seat configurations available (according to press releases). We've always been told no more than 5 is possible because of the iForce Max powertrain. ... Maybe someone here has better info?
Alright major update guys.
I exchanged half a dozen emails with the FK Offroad guy. Here are the key takeaways:
- First off, their cs rep's English is excellent. Better than most domestic reps. They are also extremely responsive during chinese business hours.
- I provided my VIN and a photo, their design team is confident the unit will fit without any issues.
- Install is plug and play, totally nondestructive. They provided an install video:
- As you an see from the video, the welds look extremely nice and it appears to be a quality unit.
- It utilizes all of the OEM connections and fuel pump; the truck shouldn't know any difference. They stressed you must use the OEM fuel pump, and don't attempt to use an aftermarket fuel gauge or different pump as it will cause issues. Fuel light will come on with approximately 15L of gas left (4 gal). So approximately 25ga of usable gas until light trips.
- Item ships within 2 days, goes in a container and +/- 45 days to the US. Comes packed in a wooden crate. US delivery handled by a trucking line.
- It ships DDP, which is door to door and includes duties and the like paid by the seller. Shipping cost is $330, so landed cost is around $1550. That was a custom quote to my location (I'm in the pacific northwest). It will show free shipping when you check out but it also says shipping will be handled after the order. You have to get a quote from their customer service before ordering to see your cost. The shipping is paid on a second invoice they send you after you order.
- They take PayPal, among other things. Paypal provides robust buyer protections against just about any issues you can encounter, including items that are misrepresented or do not fit or don't work.
- I have an email that in very good detail and extremely clearly states that if it doesn't fit as advertised, they will make it right with a full refund. Saved that one for the future, obviously to help with any paypal dispute should it come to that.
I did not ask about CARB compliance or CA emissions or any of that stuff. Because A, I don't really care and B, I already know the answer...I'm sure they don't know or won't promise it. That said, I just dropped another email to the guy and will update when I hear back.
So, I'm going to take one for the team and give it a shot. My order is in as of today, I have a 1270 mile one-way road trip coming up in December and if this works I can do it with just two fills!
Pray for me, lol
No this replaces the existing main tank. It is not an aux / additional tank.Does the spare tire need to be repositioned/eliminated from it's OEM location?
Based on the video, I have a little more than 99% confidence this is built for Chinese market LC250s and not USDM LC250s. The underside of that Prado is totally different than our LCs. If this were legit, the Chinese company would do the R&D and ship from the US. Selling the tanks within US would protect US buyers of the product a lot more against defects or fraud.
But it's your money, and it looks like you will believe what you want.
Hopefully you have a contingency plan to get your money back, and/or the manufacturer will refund you for paying them to do their R&D work for them.
The manufacturer will probably not want you to make any more posts about these tanks, because that might discourage others from placing orders with this company.
Have fun!
Hmmmm, very anxious to know how much lower it hangs and if it really works. If I can keep the spare underneath, this would work for me.No this replaces the existing main tank. It is not an aux / additional tank.
That's what she said. Sorry I couldn't resist.Hmmmm, very anxious to know how much lower it hangs and if it really works
Curious why do you assume it hangs lower?Hmmmm, very anxious to know how much lower it hangs and if it really works. If I can keep the spare underneath, this would work for me.
SameOooooh so tempting now at this price point and keeping the spare.
Thank you for taking one for the team, I hope it works. I plan be placing an order after your confirmation
Alright major update guys.
I exchanged half a dozen emails with the FK Offroad guy. Here are the key takeaways:
- First off, their cs rep's English is excellent. Better than most domestic reps. They are also extremely responsive during chinese business hours.
- I provided my VIN and a photo, their design team is confident the unit will fit without any issues.
- Install is plug and play, totally nondestructive. They provided an install video:
- As you an see from the video, the welds look extremely nice and it appears to be a quality unit.
- It utilizes all of the OEM connections and fuel pump; the truck shouldn't know any difference. They stressed you must use the OEM fuel pump, and don't attempt to use an aftermarket fuel gauge or different pump as it will cause issues. Fuel light will come on with approximately 15L of gas left (4 gal). So approximately 25ga of usable gas until light trips.
- Item ships within 2 days, goes in a container and +/- 45 days to the US. Comes packed in a wooden crate. US delivery handled by a trucking line.
- It ships DDP, which is door to door and includes duties and the like paid by the seller. Shipping cost is $330, so landed cost is around $1550. That was a custom quote to my location (I'm in the pacific northwest). It will show free shipping when you check out but it also says shipping will be handled after the order. You have to get a quote from their customer service before ordering to see your cost. The shipping is paid on a second invoice they send you after you order.
- They take PayPal, among other things. Paypal provides robust buyer protections against just about any issues you can encounter, including items that are misrepresented or do not fit or don't work.
- I have an email that in very good detail and extremely clearly states that if it doesn't fit as advertised, they will make it right with a full refund. Saved that one for the future, obviously to help with any paypal dispute should it come to that.
I did not ask about CARB compliance or CA emissions or any of that stuff. Because A, I don't really care and B, I already know the answer...I'm sure they don't know or won't promise it. That said, I just dropped another email to the guy and will update when I hear back.
So, I'm going to take one for the team and give it a shot. My order is in as of today, I have a 1270 mile one-way road trip coming up in December and if this works I can do it with just two fills!
Pray for me, lol
I'm not sure why someone would think China based seller would accept US PayPal instead of a credit card if they really offered a high level of buyer protections for what will be 2+months after an overseas transaction that probably will be delivered exactly as ordered.Seriously dude if you read my post in its entirety, you’d see I’m 100% aware there is a big risk here. I have a contingency in written representations made by the seller and PayPal dispute policy which I read up on in detail. I can’t control a PayPal verdict, but they are buyer friendly as you’d expect from a payment service, and part of their value as a company is protecting you from shady online selling.