hows your MPG #s with this setup compared to stock, any major loss?
Looks awesome, now i remember seeing your images in another thread, not too far from The Richland Bombers thanks!
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hows your MPG #s with this setup compared to stock, any major loss?
Why are these better than the Nitto G3"s - which I love.Looks like we have another standard load 3 peak AT option in 275/70R18. I'm having trouble finding specs though, the Pirelli page is vague, one online site lists them as about60 lbs each(?!?) in which case why not just get a K03? [Edit: Pirelli says ~48 lbs for 275/70R18 116S.] I'll add them to my spreadsheet once I can find reliable specs. (Tire Rack doesn't list this size yet, but they say the 275/65R18 is 46 lbs which is more reasonable.)
SCORPION™ XTM AT 275/70R18 | Pirelli
Specs according to Discount Tire, but I don't believe them (the weight at least -- that's an E load tire weight!).
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I would say a slight loss but qualify it with the fact that I have a lead foot and don’t pay attention to MPG.hows your MPG #s with this setup compared to stock, any major loss?
Looks awesome, now i remember seeing your images in another thread, not too far from The Richland Bombers thanks!
Not sure what you’re getting at there. When we say “Pirelli is owned by Michelin” the meaning is that the company Michelin owns the company Pirelli as a subsidiary. That is not the case.Today, Pirelli is owned by multiple shareholders. As of January 2025, its primary investor at a 37% stake is Sinochem Holdings, a multi-industry enterprise owned by the Chinese government. Over 31% of Pirelli stocks is held by institutional investors, 5% by retail investors, and the remaining 26.4% by Camfin, a historic holding company based in Milan, Italy that Marco Tronchetti Provera runs. Tronchetti Provera now serves as the company's Executive Vice Chairman, after he was succeeded as CEO by Andrea Casaluci in 2023.
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Bad intel.
My Nitto G'3 275/70/17 E rated max 80psi - 49.8 lbs - so ???Looks like we have another standard load 3 peak AT option in 275/70R18. I'm having trouble finding specs though, the Pirelli page is vague, one online site lists them as about60 lbs each(?!?) in which case why not just get a K03? [Edit: Pirelli says ~48 lbs for 275/70R18 116S.] I'll add them to my spreadsheet once I can find reliable specs. (Tire Rack doesn't list this size yet, but they say the 275/65R18 is 46 lbs which is more reasonable.)
SCORPION™ XTM AT 275/70R18 | Pirelli
Specs according to Discount Tire, but I don't believe them (the weight at least -- that's an E load tire weight!).
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understand and agree.Not sure what you’re getting at there. When we say “Pirelli is owned by Michelin” the meaning is that the company Michelin owns the company Pirelli as a subsidiary. That is not the case.
There seem to be multiple institutional investors that hold significant stakes in Pirelli, as you indicate. None with a majority interest. Therefore I maintain that Pirelli is a publicly traded company with diverse ownership and is not “owned by Michelin” or anyone else in the established way of stating so.
There are a lot more options if you go to 17”. Folks with stock 18” wheels have fewer good options. Brake clearance is pretty tight with a 17” wheel and Toyota didn’t recommend them— Method said early on that some of their 17” wheels only had a few mm clearance. That makes some of us who sometimes drive gravel or especially muddy gravel roads prefer to stay with 18” wheels, in addition to folks who still have stock wheels. Still as time goes by I’m more and more tempted, so many more tire options!My Nitto G'3 275/70/17 E rated max 80psi - 49.8 lbs - so ???
Brake clearance is pretty tight with a 17” wheel and Toyota didn’t recommend them =My LC came from the dealer with 17inch wheels.There are a lot more options if you go to 17”. Folks with stock 18” wheels have fewer good options. Brake clearance is pretty tight with a 17” wheel and Toyota didn’t recommend them— Method said early on that some of their 17” wheels only had a few mm clearance. That makes some of us who sometimes drive gravel or especially muddy gravel roads prefer to stay with 18” wheels, in addition to folks who still have stock wheels. Still as time goes by I’m more and more tempted, so many more tire options!
Yeah my local dealer does a lot of non-Toyota mods too, especially on the 1958’s so they can mark them up. I saw one with wheels poking way out past the fenders which one local PD would be happy to ticket as soon as it rolls off the lot. I doubt the dealer will pay those tickets.Brake clearance is pretty tight with a 17” wheel and Toyota didn’t recommend them ≠ My LC came from the dealer with 17inch wheels.
Future wheel bearing replacement wheelsets (poke offset past the fender), the dealers usually install some cheap heavy aftermarket wheels that also kill the MPG.Yeah my local dealer does a lot of non-Toyota mods too, especially on the 1958’s so they can mark them up. I saw one with wheels poking way out past the fenders which one local PD would be happy to ticket as soon as it rolls off the lot. I doubt the dealer will pay those tickets.
There’s still no Toyota factory 17” wheel option as far as I know.
Future wheel bearing replacement wheelsets (poke offset past the fender), the dealers usually install some cheap heavy aftermarket wheels that also kill the MPG.
You are correct, definitely not any 17" toyota OEM wheels for the LC250
I went with an aftermarket 18" wheel thats was 26lbs I wanted to reduce the rotational mass. All the top tire selections are available in 18": Nitto, Toyo, BFG.
Ill be going Pirelli eventually, even if i have to drive 5 hours to another state, Hopefully there will be some "Tire Sanctuary Cities" pop up
no dealer installedTRD Pro 17" Matte Black (PTR20-35110-BK)
- Toyota accessory wheel
- Matte black
- Originally for older Tacoma/4Runner/FJ Cruiser models
- Still one of Toyota's best-looking factory wheels.
edit: non dealer installedTRD Pro 17" Matte Black (PTR20-35110-BK)
- Toyota accessory wheel
- Matte black
- Originally for older Tacoma/4Runner/FJ Cruiser models
- Still one of Toyota's best-looking factory wheels.
Yes, 50lbs is pretty light, and the 18" equivalents are respectably light for an E load option. This thread is specifically talking about SL options though, and @Markarian421 is basically the go-to data aggregator for us OEM sizers.My Nitto G'3 275/70/17 E rated max 80psi - 49.8 lbs - so ???
There is a big difference between what Toyota recommends (or doesn't) and what a dealer will do. Your dealer also threw on some crazy Delium tires...Brake clearance is pretty tight with a 17” wheel and Toyota didn’t recommend them =My LC came from the dealer with 17inch wheels.
At 4mm offset (I ran these on a couple of 4Rs, and I'm pretty sure that's -4mm offset) this is an extreme option. Also, it is made for FJs, 4G 4Rs, and 2G Tacos. This means that the center bore of this wheel is 106.1mm. Our LCs have a 95.1mm center bore. It should fit, but takes away one of the main benefits of sticking with OE wheels. I bet they also take the old flat press lugnutsTRD Pro 17" Matte Black (PTR20-35110-BK)
- Toyota accessory wheel
- Matte black
- Originally for older Tacoma/4Runner/FJ Cruiser models
- Still one of Toyota's best-looking factory wheels.
Yes Toyota makes some 17” wheels for other vehicles. No one will stop you or a local dealer from installing them on a Land Cruiser. They are not listed as an option for a Land Cruiser.TRD Pro 17" Matte Black (PTR20-35110-BK)
- Toyota accessory wheel
- Matte black
- Originally for older Tacoma/4Runner/FJ Cruiser models
- Still one of Toyota's best-looking factory wheels.
You could also buy and attempt to install Prius parts on your Land Cruiser