General Grabber ATX 275/70R18 SL report for 1958

[SPetrone]

As the title says this is about Gen Grab ATX 275/70R18 SL tires. My goal is to stay stock and light weight and maximize off road capability without sacrificing the on road travel experience. If I'm being honest, off road is 5%, on road 95%. That being said, I wanted a tire that I was comfortable with doing Utah escapades and Colorado passes.

My local tire service center, would not put tires on my vehicle that were more than 5% larger than stock and not the same or better speed rated. So that meant 265/70R18 was the max size they would do. Also, the stock tires were, I believe H rated-who drives 130 mph?

According to online experts(?), 275/70R18 fits a stock 1958 wheel without mods and the spare fits as well. These tires provide about a 1 inch lift over the stock 245s. Remember we are concerned with weight. So my search lead me to 4 tire options in the 45lb. area:

Pirelli Scorpion XTM, Nitto Terra Grappler G3, Toyo Open Country AT3 & General Grabber ATX.

Based on my interpretation of online experts...the best options were probably the Pirelli and Nitto for on road drivability. That said, a household influencer, has Gen Grabbers and thinks dad needs a real off-road tire. Further, the tire shop I visited seamed to like the fact that Grabbers have been around and they get the job done without complaints. So I went tried and true. I purchased General Grabber ATXs.
So how are they? 45.5lbs. check. Low noise-I don't really hear them (or my wife for that matter). Comfortable in town. More than capable for my local off roading. Still waiting to try moderate trails in the wet.

So if you are in the I do NOT need E-rated tires club...I recommend the Gen Grabbers. I'm sure the others would serve well too. Stay light my friends.

 

[Matthew@LC250Mods]

Great writeup and thanks for sharing another tire option with the community. Not many have run them on these rigs but they're great tires and IMO better than the KO3's with a similar tread pattern.

 

[x67934]

Agreed, put mine on at 500 miles.

 

[hookem512]

I’ve had mine for about a month now. I’m not super impressed with them, I’m thinking I may need to get them rebalanced and that may resolve some of the complaints I have.

 

[SPetrone]

Do you care to share your complaints? Thanks

 

[NoMe cruiser]

1.) Yea people getting “E” rated tires. I’m sure a few people will need them but I highly doubt most people getting them will even go off road or carry extremely heavy loads. I think they are unaware of load ratings.
2.) I am unfamiliar with any new tires that are noisy. Every one puts on new tires and reports back they are not noisy. Give it 10,000 miles then report about noise levels. Although I believe the grabbers won’t be as noisy as other more aggressive AT tires.
3.) If you’re concerned about weight, why go with a wider than stock tire? A narrow tire will be lighter and perform better off road.

 

[hookem512]

Do you care to share your complaints? Thanks

I’ve got a noticeable drone and slight vibration around 45-55 mph. They also felt a little slippery the last couple of times that we’ve had rain here in central Texas.

 

[ultane]

As the title says this is about Gen Grab ATX 275/70R18 SL tires. My goal is to stay stock and light weight and maximize off road capability without sacrificing the on road travel experience. If I'm being honest, off road is 5%, on road 95%. That being said, I wanted a tire that I was comfortable with doing Utah escapades and Colorado passes.

My local tire service center, would not put tires on my vehicle that were more than 5% larger than stock and not the same or better speed rated. So that meant 265/70R18 was the max size they would do. Also, the stock tires were, I believe H rated-who drives 130 mph?

According to online experts(?), 275/70R18 fits a stock 1958 wheel without mods and the spare fits as well. These tires provide about a 1 inch lift over the stock 245s. Remember we are concerned with weight. So my search lead me to 4 tire options in the 45lb. area:

Pirelli Scorpion XTM, Nitto Terra Grappler G3, Toyo Open Country AT3 & General Grabber ATX.

Based on my interpretation of online experts...the best options were probably the Pirelli and Nitto for on road drivability. That said, a household influencer, has Gen Grabbers and thinks dad needs a real off-road tire. Further, the tire shop I visited seamed to like the fact that Grabbers have been around and they get the job done without complaints. So I went tried and true. I purchased General Grabber ATXs.
So how are they? 45.5lbs. check. Low noise-I don't really hear them (or my wife for that matter). Comfortable in town. More than capable for my local off roading. Still waiting to try moderate trails in the wet.

So if you are in the I do NOT need E-rated tires club...I recommend the Gen Grabbers. I'm sure the others would serve well too. Stay light my friends.

Welcome to the asylum.

 

[SPetrone]

1.) Yea people getting “E” rated tires. I’m sure a few people will need them but I highly doubt most people getting them will even go off road or carry extremely heavy loads. I think they are unaware of load ratings.
2.) I am unfamiliar with any new tires that are noisy. Every one puts on new tires and reports back they are not noisy. Give it 10,000 miles then report about noise levels. Although I believe the grabbers won’t be as noisy as other more aggressive AT tires.
3.) If you’re concerned about weight, why go with a wider than stock tire? A narrow tire will be lighter and perform better off road.

3.) Legitament comment. Other than staying lightweight, I wanted a larger diameter tire. The spreadsheet I used as a primary resource showed options that went from 265/70R18 to 275/70R18 with the 275 tire having the larger diameter...which is what I sought. A 1 inch lift via tire size.
There may well be other tires with the same diameter AND be narrower and lighter-I do not know of them.

 

[jhl72]

I've had the General Grabber ATX 275/70R18 SL tires on my 1958 for about 10 months. Love them. Tire hangs a little low in the spare space but it is what it is.

 

[ultane]

I've had the General Grabber ATX 275/70R18 SL tires on my 1958 for about 10 months. Love them. Tire hangs a little low in the spare space but it is what it is.

Welcome to the asylum.

 

[Bighorn Tremor]

I ran the OEM General Grabbers on my F-150 Tremor for 41,000 miles. They were 275/70-18, which also fit on the LC. Mine were E-rated. I found them to be a good tire both off- and on-road. I only changed them because winter was coming and I didn't have faith in the remaining tread for snow/ice.

I now run KO3s on the Tremor and LC, both in 275/70-18, E-rated. I've used BFG A/Ts in the past and have always been happy with them. They were only slightly more expensive than the Grabbers. I really don't remember why I didn't consider the SL Grabbers for the LC, but I think it was because the dealer couldn't get them.

Bottom line, I agree that the Grabber ATX is a decent tire.

 

[geomars]

3.) Legitament comment. Other than staying lightweight, I wanted a larger diameter tire. The spreadsheet I used as a primary resource showed options that went from 265/70R18 to 275/70R18 with the 275 tire having the larger diameter...which is what I sought. A 1 inch lift via tire size.
There may well be other tires with the same diameter AND be narrower and lighter-I do not know of them.

According to the America’s Tire calculator 275/70R18 is 0.56” larger in diameter than the 265/70R18. The vehicle’s clearance depends only on 1/2 the diameter (distance from axis to ground); the upper half of the tire extends farther into the wheel well but doesn’t lift the vehicle. So the lift provided by going to the 275 size is only 0.28”.

 

[D-mac]

The Bridgestone Dueler A/T Ascent is another lightweight (~45#) tire that gets favorable reviews and is available in many 18" sizes. Also, 275/65-18 is roughly OEM diameter, and works well from my experiences.

 

[ultane]

The Bridgestone Dueler A/T Ascent is another lightweight (~45#) tire that gets favorable reviews and is available in many 18" sizes. Also, 275/65-18 is roughly OEM diameter, and works well from my experiences.

Miss Daisy’s next set of tires..

 

[SPetrone]

According to the America’s Tire calculator 275/70R18 is 0.56” larger in diameter than the 265/70R18. The vehicle’s clearance depends only on 1/2 the diameter (distance from axis to ground); the upper half of the tire extends farther into the wheel well but doesn’t lift the vehicle. So the lift provided by going to the 275 size is only 0.28”.

My stock size was 245/70R18. So the math is different.

According to the America’s Tire calculator 275/70R18 is 0.56” larger in diameter than the 265/70R18. The vehicle’s clearance depends only on 1/2 the diameter (distance from axis to ground); the upper half of the tire extends farther into the wheel well but doesn’t lift the vehicle. So the lift provided by going to the 275 size is only 0.28”.

My stock tire size was 245/70R18. So the math is different...33.2-31.5=1.7/2=0.85" lift. I did consider the 265 tire size but I figured this was the cheapest 'lift' I could get.

 

[geomars]

My stock size was 245/70R18. So the math is different.

My stock tire size was 245/70R18. So the math is different...33.2-31.5=1.7/2=0.85" lift. I did consider the 265 tire size but I figured this was the cheapest 'lift' I could get.

Yes

 

[roadventure]

I purchased General Grabber ATXs.
So how are they? 45.5lbs. check. Low noise-I don't really hear them (or my wife for that matter). Comfortable in town. More than capable for my local off roading. Still waiting to try moderate trails in the wet.

So if you are in the I do NOT need E-rated tires club...I recommend the Gen Grabbers. I'm sure the others would serve well too. Stay light my friends.

Thanks for the input. I like that these tires help with being able to NOT hear your wife.

 

[MaddMatt]

Just another data point - I put the Grabbers on my Xterra and found them to be great in the snow and quieter than the Hankooks they replaced - even after 10k miles. Way quieter than the Duratracs, which are a great tire until they get so loud everybody gets deaf. No heavy wheeling, but the Grabbers did handle Cinnamon pass without complaint (aired down to about 20lbs or so)

Will be putting them on the LC soon, as I like the combination of looks, capability and light weight. If I have an adventure that tears out the side wall (I'm not a huge rock crawler) then I'll move to a heavier E tire, but for now I'm thinking these will be great.

 

[ultane]

Welcome to the asylum @MaddMatt