Sold After 38 Days!!??

[b407driver]

I've read pages 435-458 a few times and expect to return to them again many times in the future. It's a must read for anyone planning on actually using this stuff:

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I've never seen so many typos and grammatical errors from Toyota as in this exact section of the manual. It contains more errors than all other vehicle manuals I've read combined (including the rest of the LC250 manual), and probably even 5x them. It's like they had a summer intern do the first draft, and then never returned to QA/QC it before print.

I was truly impressed (and not in a good way).

 

[wpage]

I've never seen so many typos and grammatical errors from Toyota as in this exact section of the manual. It contains more errors than all other vehicle manuals I've read combined (including the rest of the LC250 manual), and probably even 5x them. It's like they had a summer intern do the first draft, and then never returned to QA/QC it before print.

I was truly impressed (and not in a good way).

Some things do get lost in translations. The gist of the manual is true. The OP may have missed the mark by not taking the time to "learn" how to best use features and benefits of the vehicle.

 

[Scrappopatamus]

Some things do get lost in translations. The gist of the manual is true. The OP may have missed the mark by not taking the time to "learn" how to best use features and benefits of the vehicle.

I'm guessing their therapist may have felt the vehicle overwhelming and suggested an immediate change

 

[Altitude]

I agree with a few of his assertions, others I don’t. I like the vehicle a lot, but like every other car I’ve had this one is a balance of things I like and don’t.

Most of where I agree is around the electronics. The MMI and driver interface menus in this car do not work as well as they should. The MMI is clunky on its best day and at worst might be unsafe based on the number of taps it takes to go from one commonly used function to another. Honestly, the MMI on my 2016 Tahoe was better designed. It was an early CarPlay application and had connectivity issues, but the way the menus and buttons worked was better. Say what you will about software-based EVs like Rivians, but the UI design in that software is light years beyond this. Looks better, easier, flows better. I had a Genesis GV60 as a rental a few weeks ago - much better UI.

I’m just not feeling the angst on the powertrain. It’s different, and that seems to be enough for people to convince themselves it’s not good. To me it’s a very clever use of Toyota’s hybrid chops. It drives like a diesel - tons of low end oomph and it runs out of air at about 4000 RPM. That is just fine for this car’s use case.

 

[RideWithYanu]

Holy zombie thread, Batman!

 

[Area 51]

Idiot did not learn how to make adjustments to suit.
Is not tech savvy. Never gave it a chance to break in or learn how to operate correctly.
Sounds like an anti-influencer to me.

 

[DubDub]

I read it and can see their point. I also disagree with the severity of their criticisms. It felt a lot like the OP made their mind up and data dumped into their justification column. Half of their complaints were pre-delivery realizations. But, everyone’s wallet is their own, with the exception of family and taxes lol. I do think these public justification posts are pretty pathetic and hilarious though. Sell your truck and move on, you don’t need our approval to so so.

I love this truck so much it almost annoys me. The quirks and clunks all make me love it more. It’s a weird scenario where the vibe is almost just as important to me as the vehicle itself. However, I have had my share of experiences where I fall deep into the minority of ownership experiences. The one I catch the most heat for is the 2005
Ford GT I owned for 3 months. I hated almost every moment of that experience and began justifying selling it within a week. Luckily, I was able to sell it back and put another $5k in my pocket for my troubles, which became a 2004 Terminator the dealership had failed to sell when the new 05 mustangs rolled out. That car is among my absolute favorites ever owned. All that is to say to each their own.

 

[LCDakota]

Idiot did not learn how to make adjustments to suit.
Is not tech savvy. Never gave it a chance to break in or learn how to operate correctly.
Sounds like an anti-influencer to me.

I love my LC and I won’t apologize

 

[jbtaco2002]

interestingly, i bought my 2025 LCLC "USED" with 150 miles on it.

the original owner bought it new from Toyota, and 2 days later traded it in for a BMW X5. i bought it from that BMW dealer for below MSRP the next day.

i tried to get some insight from them about the previous owner and why they would turn around the vehicle so quickly. There was nothing wrong with the vehicle at all, but all they could say was "they changed their minds". i think they probably experienced a few of the OPs gripes, but who knows and i don't care. i love my LC!

 

[dbrady214]

Half of these things he would have hated if he looked at the car before buying it. A few of these are solved not buying the 1958. The rest, fine, but hardly seem like deal breakers.

 

[Sugarloafer80]

Tech savvy doesn't mean intelligent. nuff said there.

At least his name wasn't Lacey Underalls

 

[Sugarloafer80]

I think if he would’ve read those manuals, he would have solved 80% of the issues he had with the vehicle. I have no problem going channel to channel on SiriusXM by pressing and holding the next button on the steering wheel. As far as the dash brightness, on the left side of the steering wheel, just slide the roller off the indent. It sounds like he didn’t invest much time at all learning about the vehicle. Just saying.

Hard to read with one hand holding your wanker.

 

[Altitude]

interestingly, i bought my 2025 LCLC "USED" with 150 miles on it.

the original owner bought it new from Toyota, and 2 days later traded it in for a BMW X5. i bought it from that BMW dealer for below MSRP the next day.

i tried to get some insight from them about the previous owner and why they would turn around the vehicle so quickly. There was nothing wrong with the vehicle at all, but all they could say was "they changed their minds". i think they probably experienced a few of the OPs gripes, but who knows and i don't care. i love my LC!

If a guy cross shops a Land Cruiser and an X5, one of them is not what he’s looking for.

 

[ultane]

Half of these things he would have hated if he looked at the car before buying it. A few of these are solved not buying the 1958. The rest, fine, but hardly seem like deal breakers.

Welcome to the asylum.

 

[lar317]

Never read the manual, Also Not sure what he meant by auto braking when pulling into a garage, my 1958 does not do this, and I have PDA set to on, Sounds like he needs to buy a car from a by gone era.

 

[cruiser_ss396]

Interesting…..so many issues that a test drive would have revealed but he bought it anyway. Some people are idiots

 

[PDPete]

Never read the manual, Also Not sure what he meant by auto braking when pulling into a garage, my 1958 does not do this, and I have PDA set to on, Sounds like he needs to buy a car from a by gone era.

Same here...and my garage is tight, it definitely trips proximity sensors each time I back in (slowly, of course), but no braking.

 

[Jack_]

Sorry but who complains about the owner manual being too long?

He went on and on about the manual being too long. Using entirely too many words to make a one sentence point, he kind of contradicted himself.

 

[imann777]

Fully understand Techie bloat frustration feelin like a barrier than a upgrade.
“Sold it in 38 days? That’s not ownership, that’s speed‑dating.”
“Complaining about safety features is like quitting the gym because the weights were heavy.
A 1000‑page manual isn’t complexity, it’s proof you bought a legend, not a lawnmower. Maybe stick to vehicles where the instructions fit on a sticker.
If heritage, off‑road comfort, and a built‑in inverter didn’t make you happy, nothing will.
You didn’t own the LC long enough to understand it — legends take longer than a month to learn.
Funny you brag and compared with the 2020 T4R that’s basically a dinosaur with Bluetooth. You just went back in time

 

[ultane]

Fully understand Techie bloat frustration feelin like a barrier than a upgrade.
“Sold it in 38 days? That’s not ownership, that’s speed‑dating.”
“Complaining about safety features is like quitting the gym because the weights were heavy.
A 1000‑page manual isn’t complexity, it’s proof you bought a legend, not a lawnmower. Maybe stick to vehicles where the instructions fit on a sticker.
If heritage, off‑road comfort, and a built‑in inverter didn’t make you happy, nothing will.
You didn’t own the LC long enough to understand it — legends take longer than a month to learn.
Funny you brag and compared with the 2020 T4R that’s basically a dinosaur with Bluetooth. You just went back in time

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Maybe he and dougie are best friends, or maybe he works for Consumer Reports.