Land Cruiser Tire Upgrades?

[blkcctsent]

Is 104 lbs per wheel tire too heavy for the LC?
Im moving rims to have better offset to 18x9 and want a 34" tire. Looking at the 285/70R18. Was wanting a C load around that size is Wildpeak AT4 and it is 68#. My wheels are 36#

Currently I have C Loads and about 85# and it is fine, comfy. I either have to move to a E load or a Heavy ass C Load, not sure what to do. How harsh is harsh on a LC for E load?

 

[basicxj]

Will the vehicle tolerate that increased weight? Sure. Will you feel the additional mass in the suspension over rough road/trail at speed, in braking, and see a hit in fuel usage? Most likely. Will you feel a difference in the transmission's shifting pattern and the amount of time the engine lugs without intervention from you to downshift? Most likely.

You have to balance wants and needs with the effects of the added mass and rolling diameter. If you are building the Land Cruiser to be primarily for off road, you do what you have to do. If it is a daily driver that spends most of its time on road but you want more off road ability for when it is needed, most changes you make will carry a price to be paid somewhere. As long as you do the research (thankfully people have tried lots of things when the LC250 platform hit the streets in terms of mods, big tires and shared their experience in forums like this one) and know what you are getting into, you'll know what to expect and make the right compromises for your use.

I downsized from 20" wheels and OEM tires to lighter 18" alloys with more tire and slightly more offset- in my case I went with 33" tires and lost about 7 lbs per corner. I noticed everything is pretty good in the ride and handling department beyond some transmission shifting behaviour in ECO mode. In Normal and Sport mode everything is fine. I can feel the minor increase in the track in the steering response, braking is still excellent. Mileage has stayed in the same ballpark, and nothing rubs. No regrets. Would it have been nice to gain a little more height with a larger tire still? Sure, but going to 34" or 35" opens up some additional cans of worms and isn't really worth it for my use at this time. I won't rule out larger tires and some other mods in the future, but there is a good chance my needs are different than yours.

 

[LCOceans]

I was trying to find a 35" tire without adding the width into the 12" range, while staying with 18" wheels.
I searched all over and landed on the Toyo AT III 285/75/18 at 34.8" x 11.3".
I really love the look and the feel on the road. I barely notice a drop in power. The ride quality is improved and is on point. Tight and easy to drive. Much also to do perhaps with the suspension I added for the lift. Dobinsons MRR on all 4. And maybe the wheels - TRD Pro BBS Forged at +47 keeping it tucked in.
The fuel efficiency is the place where I have taken a hit by 2-4mpgs. At times I debate going down a size on my next set of tires, but I am not sure. Just love this rig.

 

[blkcctsent]

I was trying to find a 35" tire without adding the width into the 12" range, while staying with 18" wheels.
I searched all over and landed on the Toyo AT III 285/75/18 at 34.8" x 11.3".
I really love the look and the feel on the road. I barely notice a drop in power. The ride quality is improved and is on point. Tight and easy to drive. Much also to do perhaps with the suspension I added for the lift. Dobinsons MRR on all 4. And maybe the wheels - TRD Pro BBS Forged at +47 keeping it tucked in.
The fuel efficiency is the place where I have taken a hit by 2-4mpgs. At times I debate going down a size on my next set of tires, but I am not sure. Just love this rig.

You'd say the ride quality is better with the E load vs the Stock 20" SL? how is the stiffness? what PSI are you running? (I thought that was floaty, like driving on donuts) I am weighing the pros cons of adding yet another 20lbs or just adding 10 lbs and getting E load per tire.

 

[LCOceans]

You'd say the ride quality is better with the E load vs the Stock 20" SL? how is the stiffness? what PSI are you running? (I thought that was floaty, like driving on donuts) I am weighing the pros cons of adding yet another 20lbs or just adding 10 lbs and getting E load per tire.

Yes for sure the ride quality is better now than it was with the stock setup. I cannot attribute it to tires because the entire suspension is different and I had everything changed at the same time. I looked for SL (lighter than E load) but had no luck in the size I wanted.
As for boaty feel ; yes this is what I kept reading about, but it's 100% opposite. Very tight feeling. MRR's are adjustable and I have them adjusted slightly tighter than the half-way point of adjustability, meaning slightly more compression for less float feeling and higher responsiveness. So absolutely no boat-like feeling. I will guess if I wanted that I could achieve by setting MRR's so there is very little compression. Was running at 33-35 psi for a while and only a few weeks ago aired up to 41. This is when I actually adjusted compression down a bit to offset because it was really over-responsive - actually needed a little boat like ride. So now is perfection.

 

[Little T]

I went with the Falken Wildpeak AT4w in 35-11.5-r18 load range C because of the 62 lb weight. The same tire in 285-75-r18 load range E is 78 lbs. My setup drives fantastic.

 

[Little T]

I just noticed when checking the weights one the Discount tire website that when you look at 35x11.50r18 tires a big green bar pops up and says “These tires fit your 2024 Land Cruiser”. That’s new.

 

[RideWithYanu]

I just noticed when checking the weights one the Discount tire website that when you look at 35x11.50r18 tires a big green bar pops up and says “These tires fit your 2024 Land Cruiser”. That’s new. View attachment 56927

Truck is looking great! I’m considering trying this tire in C load as well when my E load Mickey’s are done.

 

[CerberusSasha]

I went with the Falken Wildpeak AT4w in 35-11.5-r18 load range C because of the 62 lb weight. The same tire in 285-75-r18 load range E is 78 lbs. My setup drives fantast

I put the truck and the tires through its paces over the recent months and I LOVE the 275/70 R18 Ko3s on the stock 1958 rims. Absolutely no issues at all and honestly I really, REALLY like the looks and the functionality of the tires being tucked into the wheel wells. 100% recommend.

I'm looking at these tires for my LC trim but I'm concerned about the loss of mpg. Did you happen to track your mpg before and after changing the tires?

 

[Little T]

I'm looking at these tires for my LC trim but I'm concerned about the loss of mpg. Did you happen to track your mpg before and after changing the tires?

I didn’t drive it long before ditching the stock tires. I get 17-18 mpg which is better than my 15 mpg LX 570 got and almost double what my 80 series LX 450 got which was around 10 mpg. 35’s are off the chart on smiles per gallon. Love’em. No regrets. It’s crazy that 35’s can almost look too small on this platform.

 

[blkcctsent]

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I just noticed when checking the weights one the Discount tire website that when you look at 35x11.50r18 tires a big green bar pops up and says “These tires fit your 2024 Land Cruiser”. That’s new. View attachment 56927

What modifications did you make to make this fit? is this stock? I think those rims are +45 and 18x8.5 a little more offset than mine will be 18x9 +40 so perhaps the 35 fits easier.

 

[Little T]

I added a one inch strut top spacer from Peak about a year ago, waiting for more suspension lift options to come to market. I’m close to deciding on a 2.5” kit. I’m really liking what I’m hearing about the new Eibach Pro 3R but OME…….

 

[buumer]

Looking for some tire advice. I currently have 26k miles on my Michelin LTXs, which have performed great across dry, wet and snowy conditions.

Im starting to think about their replacement. I do most of my driving on highways (80-85mph isn’t uncommon when speed limits allow), and an occasional rough backcountry trail. So I’m looking to preserve as much on-road capability as possible, including Michelin mpg’s, but perhaps gain some snow capability and more aggressive looks.

I believe my options are to keep the Michelins, or swap to something like Conti TerrainContact A/T or BFG TrailTerrains. And moving from a 265 to a 275 on stock 18in wheels. Not sure if I’m missing any others.

Has anybody made a similar swap, or have experience with those Continental or BFG tires on the LC?

 

[FlyRod]

I'm looking at these tires for my LC trim but I'm concerned about the loss of mpg. Did you happen to track your mpg before and after changing the tires?

Yeah, I lost around 2 MPG, but also note that I added factory rock rails, too. According to the dash display, I am now usually around 18.5 MPG in town and up to 20ish MPG on the highway. I've not actually bothered to check that against actual miles driven on the odometer and gallons of fuel put into the tank, though.

 

[DubDub]

Yeah, I lost around 2 MPG, but also note that I added factory rock rails, too. According to the dash display, I am now usually around 18.5 MPG in town and up to 20ish MPG on the highway. I've not actually bothered to check that against actual miles driven on the odometer and gallons of fuel put into the tank, though.

The ODO/MPG is pretty accurate against a 265/70R18. Just multiply everything (Speed/ODO/MPG) by 1.02 and you'll get pretty close. I've been doing it in reverse with my 265/65 setup (x0.97) and have come within .05 on everything. I can't wait to start underreporting like you though.

Based on your current numbers: 18.87 city, 20.4ish hwy.

 

[faylix]

Looking for some tire advice. I currently have 26k miles on my Michelin LTXs, which have performed great across dry, wet and snowy conditions.

Im starting to think about their replacement. I do most of my driving on highways (80-85mph isn’t uncommon when speed limits allow), and an occasional rough backcountry trail. So I’m looking to preserve as much on-road capability as possible, including Michelin mpg’s, but perhaps gain some snow capability and more aggressive looks.

I believe my options are to keep the Michelins, or swap to something like Conti TerrainContact A/T or BFG TrailTerrains. And moving from a 265 to a 275 on stock 18in wheels. Not sure if I’m missing any others.

Has anybody made a similar swap, or have experience with those Continental or BFG tires on the LC?

Would like to figure this out as well.

Sticking with the stock tires for at least 3k miles but then I'd like to upgrade to something a bit more capable but still mainly driving on paved roads and highways with short stints on trails to put out the 500 and 1000! Yard targets.

 

[405]

Thinking of switching out my stock tires on my LC mid trim to 275/70 KO3. Can anyone that has gone from the stock 265 Michelins to 275 BFG's speak to the power/braking difference?

Is acceleration , braking, or road noise noticeably worsened?

 

[blkcctsent]

Thinking of switching out my stock tires on my LC mid trim to 275/70 KO3. Can anyone that has gone from the stock 265 Michelins to 275 BFG's speak to the power/braking difference?

Is acceleration , braking, or road noise noticeably worsened?

I am on 285 - bigger than the above. It will feel more like a truck, and I didn't notice an acceleration change, or noise issue at all, I did notice the weight in braking a little bit. Not awful though. After a week I didn't notice it again. I have ran both C load and E load, on the LC as well and noticed that the E load is about 50% harsher of a drive than C load. I don't love the E load on an LC because the suspension already is busy. C load felt more gummy/squirmy cushy. The weight was the same on that switch. I am still getting 18.2 mpg. I got 20 with stock.

 

[405]

I am on 285 - bigger than the above. It will feel more like a truck, and I didn't notice an acceleration change, or noise issue at all, I did notice the weight in braking a little bit. Not awful though. After a week I didn't notice it again. I have ran both C load and E load, on the LC as well and noticed that the E load is about 50% harsher of a drive than C load. I don't love the E load on an LC because the suspension already is busy. C load felt more gummy/squirmy cushy. The weight was the same on that switch. I am still getting 18.2 mpg. I got 20 with stock.

Thanks for the info. A good point you bring up is the load range. The KO3 in 275 are only available in E1.

I also have an 80 series Land Cruiser and went up a size from stock, from 275 sized KO2 to 285 sized KO3s. And I noticed a significant hit to acceleration and braking on that truck going 1 size up. Which is my concern on a brand new LC, don't want it to be noticeably worse like it was on my 80.

 

[faylix]

I'm sorry, I hate to do this, but has there been a good consensus for an on road all terrain that doesn't suck, and still got good gas milage?

I looked into the nitto grappler's in 265/70/18 SL and they are excellent in dry and wet conditions but dangerous at stopping in snow.

I'm also looking at some:

BRIDGESTONE
DUELER A/T ASCENT

In the same size and load rating - because they seemed to do well in all the categories - even if they didn't super stand out in any of them and they are under 40lbs a tire.

Can someone set me straight?