Land Cruiser Tire Upgrades?

[teghogh]

18x9 +30 KMC IMS
295/70R18 Nitto Recon Grappler SL
Stock Height (Mud flaps front and rear removed) Slight rub at about 3/4 turn

Plan to do 1” of lift in the front, possibly 2” after more options release.

Perfect sidewall poke IMO
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i dont know why these look completely different than recon grapplers on nitto website as well as TRD johns LC

Recon Grappler A/T | All Terrain Light Truck Tire | Nitto Tire

The Recon Grappler A/T combines versatility and distinctive design into an all-terrain light truck tire that stands out with capable off-road performance.

www.nittotire.com

 

[teghogh]

18x9 +30 KMC IMS
295/70R18 Nitto Recon Grappler SL
Stock Height (Mud flaps front and rear removed) Slight rub at about 3/4 turn

Plan to do 1” of lift in the front, possibly 2” after more options release.

Perfect sidewall poke IMO
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i got it looks like there are two different design tire walls on each side of the tire.

 

[teghogh]

18x9 +30 KMC IMS
295/70R18 Nitto Recon Grappler SL
Stock Height (Mud flaps front and rear removed) Slight rub at about 3/4 turn

Plan to do 1” of lift in the front, possibly 2” after more options release.

Perfect sidewall poke IMO
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how is the tire noise on these ?

 

[stec06]

A ‘58 with 17” Method 703s (+35) and 255/75 R17 Michelin Defender LTX M/S2s. A little poke but the tread is inside the tiny ‘1958 fenders and no issue at all with spray. Not doing any off-roading so these less-aggressive tires made more sense for me.

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This is exactly what I was thinking of doing on the 1958. Defenders seem to be the best best for mostly highway driving. Getting sick of these Ridge Grapplers. I just wish FN would hurry up with some of their designs in LC-friendly offsets.

 

[5Runner]

This is exactly what I was thinking of doing on the 1958. Defenders seem to be the best best for mostly highway driving. Getting sick of these Ridge Grapplers. I just wish FN would hurry up with some of their designs in LC-friendly offsets.

I love the tires, and the rims/size/offset for that matter. I was getting caught up on here trying to get something bigger and more aggressive but realized I was compromising a whole bunch of important stuff for what would have been pretty minor gains in ride height and looks. The tradeoff didn’t make sense for my use case (commuting and driving around town 99% of the time).

 

[ultane]

I love the tires, and the rims/size/offset for that matter. I was getting caught up on here trying to get something bigger and more aggressive but realized I was compromising a whole bunch of important stuff for what would have been pretty minor gains in ride height and looks. The tradeoff didn’t make sense for my use case (commuting and driving around town 99% of the time).

Not to mention, all the non OEM wheels (weird poke), spacers, suspension mods, over sized tires negates the Toyota factory warranty per the service department manager where I bought Miss Daisy. He told me two days ago that he had to sign a binding agreement with Toyota that he would not submit warranty claims to Toyota when the owner had altered the factory specifications of any vehicle.

 

[Blue Sky]

Not to mention, all the non OEM wheels (weird poke), spacers, suspension mods, over sized tires negates the Toyota factory warranty per the service department manager where I bought Miss Daisy. He told me two days ago that he had to sign a binding agreement with Toyota that he would not submit warranty claims to Toyota when the owner had altered the factory specifications of any vehicle.

So the service manager is saying that when toyota dealerships modify suspension, upgrade wheels and mount plus size tires on new vehicles directly from port they have effectively voided the warranty? (Not being a dick, just trying to understand what can or will void warranties)

 

[EOD Guy]

Any modification that alters the OEM steering, driveline angle, spring rate etc.......... has the protentional to void the warranty for that particular component or those components associated with that component, but not void the entire warranty.

As an example you put on extended shocks with higher spring rates for a 2"-3" lift to accommodate larger tires and you have a CV joint/axle failure....... I could see where the dealer would claim that the increased CV angle and the heavier rotating mass of the larger tire caused the failure and wouldn't cover it under warranty. Same example as above and you had a rotor failure or a caliper failure, the parts you installed have no bearing on the failure and should be covered under warranty. The same should hold true for a brake line, power steering pump etc.......... There are dealers out there that are modification friendly and those that would fight you for putting a different windshield wipers on............

 

[ultane]

So the service manager is saying that when toyota dealerships modify suspension, upgrade wheels and mount plus size tires on new vehicles directly from port they have effectively voided the warranty? (Not being a dick, just trying to understand what can or will void warranties)

Jeezey peezey.

I don’t know that I made that claim… I was just repeating what the service manager told me, to inmates of this asylum, for their benefit. If you want to argue, and put words in my mouth, go argue with a service manager somewhere.

 

[LCOceans]

Any modification that alters the OEM steering, driveline angle, spring rate etc.......... has the protentional to void the warranty for that particular component or those components associated with that component, but not void the entire warranty.

As an example you put on extended shocks with higher spring rates for a 2"-3" lift to accommodate larger tires and you have a CV joint/axle failure....... I could see where the dealer would claim that the increased CV angle and the heavier rotating mass of the larger tire caused the failure and wouldn't cover it under warranty. Same example as above and you had a rotor failure or a caliper failure, the parts you installed have no bearing on the failure and should be covered under warranty. The same should hold true for a brake line, power steering pump etc.......... There are dealers out there that are modification friendly and those that would fight you for putting a different windshield wipers on............

Hate to say it, but this makes logical sense. An aftermarket part could infringe on the OEM design, so only makes sense that in certain situations the warranty for said part is deemed void.

 

[EOD Guy]

It's called the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act........... prohibits manufacturers and dealerships from voiding your car's warranty solely because of a modification; instead, they must prove the modification directly caused the part to fail. This means you can use aftermarket parts and modifications, but if the modification is the cause of the failure (like a larger turbo damaging a clutch), the manufacturer can deny the warranty claim for that specific component.

 

[FlyRod]

It's called the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act........... prohibits manufacturers and dealerships from voiding your car's warranty solely because of a modification; instead, they must prove the modification directly caused the part to fail. This means you can use aftermarket parts and modifications, but if the modification is the cause of the failure (like a larger turbo damaging a clutch), the manufacturer can deny the warranty claim for that specific component.

The recent few posts have been good discussion on something that has nagged at me. Thanks to you and @ultane for this.

I am aware of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, but I am concerned that Toyota will consider 265/70R18 SL tires to be the max size/weight that can go on the truck while still honoring warranty claims on things like the transmission, bearings, etc. It's plausible that, if a claim on the transmission is needed, that they come back and say "nah, your 275 E-loads put too much stress on the things. Pony up." I'm still trying to figure out the best way to navigate this because, of course, I would love to put some BFG KO3s on in either size 265 or 275. May have to talk to the dealer service dept and see what they say...

 

[RideWithYanu]

The recent few posts have been good discussion on something that has nagged at me. Thanks to you and @ultane for this.

I am aware of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, but I am concerned that Toyota will consider 265/70R18 SL tires to be the max size/weight that can go on the truck while still honoring warranty claims on things like the transmission, bearings, etc. It's plausible that, if a claim on the transmission is needed, that they come back and say "nah, your 275 E-loads put too much stress on the things. Pony up." I'm still trying to figure out the best way to navigate this because, of course, I would love to put some BFG KO3s on in either size 265 or 275. May have to talk to the dealer service dept and see what they say...

Anecdotal, but Toyota didn’t blink an eye at my 285/70R17 wheels in E load when replacing my broken driveshaft and CV joint under warranty.

 

[FlyRod]

Anecdotal, but Toyota didn’t blink an eye at my 285/70R17 wheels in E load when replacing my broken driveshaft and CV joint under warranty.

Oh awesome datapoint! I wonder if we can get some more anecdotes like this from other users?

 

[EOD Guy]

The recent few posts have been good discussion on something that has nagged at me. Thanks to you and @ultane for this.

I am aware of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, but I am concerned that Toyota will consider 265/70R18 SL tires to be the max size/weight that can go on the truck while still honoring warranty claims on things like the transmission, bearings, etc. It's plausible that, if a claim on the transmission is needed, that they come back and say "nah, your 275 E-loads put too much stress on the things. Pony up." I'm still trying to figure out the best way to navigate this because, of course, I would love to put some BFG KO3s on in either size 265 or 275. May have to talk to the dealer service dept and see what they say...

Of course you always take a chance with modifications. But I would think any tire that's being offered as a dealer add-on (or close to it) would be fine. You throw on a set of 37's that's had the fender wells trimmed to fit and 5" of lift........ well, they might just take a second look.

 

[amzazai]

Looking to place an order for 5 Tacoma trd pro 18 inch wheels, but not sure if the website is legit or not. They’re only charging shipping and handling around $80 to deliver it to my house in Reston, VA.

 

[5Runner]

Nucar Toyota is a legit local dealer up here but I don't know about that URL. Did you get to it via the Nucar site?

ETA - after poking around online www.oempartstoyou.com appears legit and has a pretty good reputation.

 

[FlyRod]

Of course you always take a chance with modifications. But I would think any tire that's being offered as a dealer add-on (or close to it) would be fine. You throw on a set of 37's that's had the fender wells trimmed to fit and 5" of lift........ well, they might just take a second look.

Followup - I received confirmation from my dealer's service director that swapping to 275/70R18 in E-load have no effect on warranty so long as there is no rubbing.

 

[basicxj]

Followup - I received confirmation from my dealer's service director that swapping to 275/70R18 in E-load have no effect on warranty so long as there is no rubbing.

When I mentioned to my dealer I’d be swapping out tires/wheels, I was cautioned to stay within 2% of the OEM tire size if I didn’t want partial warranty voided. Sadly, no Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act in Canada.

 

[jimmyj]

Decided poke isn’t for me, so I swapped out the Method 707’s (18x9, 0 offset) for Icon Recon SLX (18x9, +40 offset). Tires still have plenty of tread, so I’ll let the bank account recover before deciding if I want to size up a bit. Running 275/70R18 Toyo Open Country AT3s for now.