Heated Seats issue: Updated**

If sport mode is changing the seat heater performance it's because you have ECO mode control of the climate system turned on, which will also reduce A/C performance.

I haven't tried turning off ECO mode control or switching to sport for the seat heaters, but ECO mode control (Setting in the MID to enable or disable) definitely limits the A/C system.
 
My LC premium heated seats are a joke, finally went to use them and can barely tell they are even on. Reading through this sounds "normal". Heated steering wheel is barely noticable as well. Came from the GX and it's drastically different.
Mine work, both seats and steering wheel I’ve had to turn off. Having said that, it is also ā€œweakerā€ in heat than the Tundra or 4Runners I’ve used. It doesn’t reach the same intensity level nor as fast.
 
Does OBD11 offer an option to adjust seat temperature? Anyone tried?
 
Does OBD11 offer an option to adjust seat temperature? Anyone tried?
Carista does not.. just the seat cooling is adjustable. I'm assuming OBD11 will be the same...

The LC seat heat is a bummer. I've had vehicles that'll sear your ass, not that I need it that hot, but a bit more heat would be better.
 
I seem to have the same issue with my heated seats. I purchased a 1958 with dealer installed leather seats (Katzkin leather). The seats look factory and I am happy with them ...except that the heated seats are emitting pitifully faint heat, even on full blast.

I am not sure if this is because:

A) the Toyota heating elements are weak (which would imply all Land Cruisers are effected)
B) the Katzkin leather is not perforated and may be thicker than OEM which could be causing the issue
C) I can't feel the heat because the ambient temperature is too high (its summer here in PA).

I fear the dealer may simply shrug this off. I invite others to weigh in.
I have had the same setup as you since Oct '24 and my heated seats work exceedingly well (and come up to full heat very quickly). I have not tried to use them when the temp outside is warm.
 
My LC premium heated seats are a joke, finally went to use them and can barely tell they are even on. Reading through this sounds "normal". Heated steering wheel is barely noticable as well. Came from the GX and it's drastically different.
My heated seats seem to work fine...wouldn't call the effect "intense", but I definitely notice the warmth when it's running. Perhaps the 1958 cloth seats make a difference there?

As for the steering wheel, mine gets VERY warm very quickly... I can't imagine I'd want it any warmer to be honest...I'm happy with it
 
In winter my heated seats are left on high the whole time because they're fairly weak. I mean it's definitely better than no heat, but every other car I've owned, you have to turn down the level eventually.

In terms of steering wheel, it's horrible. The stitching isn't heated, so that remains cold which is a huge letdown. The 12 o'clock pos also has stitching so, no heat. Why wouldn't they heat the whole wheel? Every other vehicle I've driven with the option does... My first Toyota though so maybe other models do the same?
 
Does OBD11 offer an option to adjust seat temperature? Anyone tried?
No the seat temperature can't be adjusted via OBD port even with Toyota service tool, the GX550 can be though. Not sure where the difference lies that allows it for the Lexus but not the Toyota? It is a customizable parameter that shows up in GTS+ but the literature has a note that's it's only applicable to the GX550.
 
While lurking the forum before our Land Cruiser arrived (early June) I fully expected poorly performing seat heaters based on feedback from forum members.

Once the temperatures dipped far enough that I could try them out, they have performed pretty well (steering wheel too). The lowest setting takes the chill off fine, the middle setting feels warm. I haven’t needed to try the highest setting yet. My Rubicon’s seat heaters got warm enough to melt some reflective lettering off the back of some uniform pieces I was wearing on ā€œhigh,ā€ but on the lowest setting seem comparable to the Land Cruiser in my limited use.

I rented a previous generation 4Runner this last February up north…in -18C the seat heaters went from frozen to uncomfortably warm pretty quickly. As I wasn’t too familiar with the vehicle, it took some messing around to turn them off when they really got warm.
 
My heated seats seem to work fine...wouldn't call the effect "intense", but I definitely notice the warmth when it's running. Perhaps the 1958 cloth seats make a difference there?

As for the steering wheel, mine gets VERY warm very quickly... I can't imagine I'd want it any warmer to be honest...I'm happy with it
My experience is the same. No compalints. Usually end up turning them down/off after awhile.
 
Both the seat and wheel heating are meager on mine, even when it’s below freezing outside. My Jeep wheel and seat heat are significantly stronger and more uniform on the wheel. I remember turning eco mode off, but I’ll double check.
 
No the seat temperature can't be adjusted via OBD port even with Toyota service tool, the GX550 can be though. Not sure where the difference lies that allows it for the Lexus but not the Toyota? It is a customizable parameter that shows up in GTS+ but the literature has a note that's it's only applicable to the GX550.
I looked in GTS+ and I couldn't find anything.
 
It was under the my settings section in GTS+, Seat Temperature auto adjustment FL and Seat Temperature auto adjustment FR, there is a note in GTS that's not applicable, but if you go to the GX550 in TIS has no such note.
 
My experience is the same. No compalints. Usually end up turning them down/off after awhile.
Same here, the seats heat fine and the steering wheel is fine as well.

For comparison, my '18 Jeep JLU Sahara seats and steering wheel were way too hot. The steering wheel would get so hot you couldn't grab a few places, and the seats weren't far off on the highest setting. Couldn't adjust the steering wheel heat, and the seats were never on high, usually medium to get them warmed up then to low.
 
Heated seats on my LC are pretty weak. I can tell they are on after about 10 minutes, but it’s just slightly warm on the highest setting. In these winter temps I just leave them on the highest setting and I literally forget they are on. I’m coming from BMW’s that have ā€œhotā€ seats.. You have to turn the level down after 10 minutes as they get pretty warm. On those, I frequently use the low level once they get hot. I also feel like the overall climate control is weak and it takes forever to warm the truck up. I did discover that S-Flow turned on makes the heat seem weaker? I turned it off and the heater fan runs significantly more, just now trying that. Seems odd, as the manual states that S-Flow turned on is supposed to focus more on the front when there are no rear passengers? Rear climate is turned off.

I used Gemini 3 to investigate just to see what it said, I thought the output was interesting. It also mentions the effect of eco driving mode, and S-flow being turned off to get the best performance. Below is the output.

Gemini Chat output:
Prompt: ā€Why are the heated seats in my 2025 Land Cruiser so weak? Is there a TSB, setting, or feature that I’m missing? I do have Eco mode turned off in the climate settings. ā€œ

This is a known and widely reported complaint among 2025 Land Cruiser (250 Series) owners. You are not missing a simple "High Power" button; the system is unfortunately tuned to be much milder than in previous Toyota models or competitors.

Owners commonly describe the seats as "anemic" or barely noticeable, even on the highest setting, especially when compared to the heated steering wheel (which gets quite hot).

Here is a breakdown of why this is happening, what settings to double-check, and what to tell the dealer.

1. The "Feature" vs. The Glitch

Current consensus from owner forums and dealer service departments is that this is functioning as designed, likely to preserve battery efficiency (especially on hybrid models) or for safety compliance.

• The Spec: Some owners who have taken their vehicles in for this issue were told by dealers that the "acceptable operating range" for the seats is between 85°F and 115°F. If your seat is hitting 85°F (which is lower than normal body temperature), the dealer will technically mark it as "passing," even though it feels cool to the touch.

• Ambient Temperature Logic: There are reports that the seat heater intensity is throttled by the cabin temperature sensor. If the car thinks the cabin is already warm (or if it's a mild day), it may limit the seat heater power, even if you manually select "High."

2. Settings to "Force" More Heat

Since you have already turned off Eco Heat/Cool mode, check these two specific areas:

A. Disable "S-FLOW" Mode

This is the most common culprit for weak climate performance in modern Toyotas. S-Flow automatically directs air and power only to occupied seats to save energy. It can sometimes aggressively cut power to heating elements.

• How to check: Look for the S-FLOW icon (usually an image of a seat with airflow lines or an "S" inside a car outline) on your climate control screen. Turn this OFF so that the system prioritizes comfort over efficiency for the whole cabin.

B. Drive Mode vs. Climate Mode

Even if your Climate is not in Eco, your Drive Mode (the dial on the center console) might be.

• Ensure the vehicle is in Normal or Sport mode. Some hybrids aggressively throttle electrical accessories (like heating elements) when the vehicle powertrain is in Eco mode to maximize MPG.

3. Is there a TSB?

Currently, there is no official TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) specifically for "weak heated seats" on the 2025 Land Cruiser.

• Because Toyota considers the 85°F–115°F range "normal," they have not released a software fix to boost the temperature.

• Note: There are TSBs for other models regarding seat heater logic (preventing battery drain), but nothing that increases the heat output for the Land Cruiser yet.

Summary Checklist for You

1. S-Flow: Verify it is OFF in the Climate Menu.

2. Drive Mode: Switch to Sport for one drive to see if the electrical load management changes the heat output.

3. Comparison: If the Heated Steering Wheel gets hot but the seats do not, this confirms the issue is specific to the seat tuning/voltage limit, not a fuse or general heater failure.

Next Step

If you plan to visit the dealer, I can help you phrase the complaint to avoid the standard "it's operating as intended" dismissal. Would you like me to draft a specific request for your service advisor to check the "Dealer Customization" menu for seat temperature offsets? (Some Toyotas allow a ± adjustment via the dealer's Techstream software, though it's unconfirmed if the 2025 LC allows this).

Prompt: ā€œyesā€

Here is a specific, technically phrased request you can print out or email to your service advisor.

This script is designed to bypass the standard "operating as intended" response by using the specific terminology for Toyota’s diagnostic software (Techstream). It signals that you are an informed owner who knows these settings likely exist in the deeper computer menus.

The Service Request Script

Subject: Request for Techstream Customization Check - Heated Seat Performance

Vehicle: 2025 Toyota Land Cruiser (250 Series)

Issue: Front heated seat surface temperature is significantly below expected operating standards, even on the "High/3-Bar" setting.

Customer Request:

I understand the standard operating range is often set conservatively for efficiency. However, I would like a technician to connect the Techstream diagnostic tool to check the "Customize" menus for the Air Conditioning / Body Control Module.

Please verify if the "Seat Heater Temperature Adjust" (or Seat Heater Sensitivity) parameter is available for this VIN.

• Standard Setting: Usually "0" (Normal).

• Requested Action: If the parameter exists, please adjust the offset to "+2" or "High" to increase the voltage/duty cycle of the heating elements.

Note: I have already verified that the S-Flow mode is OFF and the vehicle is NOT in Eco Drive Mode.

Why this works

• "Techstream": This is the name of the proprietary laptop software dealers use. Mentioning it proves you know how the car is programmed.

• "Parameter" & "Offset": You aren't asking them to "fix" a broken part (which they can't do if it's not broken); you are asking them to change a preference setting.

• Pre-empting the excuse: By noting you already checked "S-Flow" and "Eco Mode," you save them the trouble of calling you back to ask those basic questions.

Important: Check your Infotainment Screen first

Before you go to the dealer, do one final deep dive in your own car's menu, as Toyota sometimes moves these "Dealer Only" settings into the user interface for higher trims:

1. Go to Settings (Gear icon) on the main screen.

2. Select Vehicle Customize.

3. Look for Climate or Seat Settings.

4. See if there is a slider for "Seat Heater Auto Sensitivity" or "Temp Adjust." (It is rare, but possible on the 250 Series).

Next Step

If the dealer claims the setting does not exist or is "locked," ask them to document on the service ticket: "Verified seat heater temp is X degrees; compared to steering wheel temp of Y degrees."

Having this temperature delta documented on an official repair order is the "paper trail" you will need if Toyota later issues a TSB or software update for this specific complaint.

... Customize your Toyota, Lexus, or Scion!

I've selected this video because it demonstrates what the "Techstream" software looks like on a dealer's laptop, showing you exactly where the "Seat Heater" customization options are typically hidden in the menus.
 
As a follow up, I drove the LC today twice in single digit temps. It definitely seems that turning off S Flow has made an impact. The hot setting of the seat heat after 15 minutes was hot enough that I did turn it down to medium.

FYI, S-Flow has to be turned off manually every time you start the car if its been sitting more than an hour.
 
Heated seats not working properly in the new J250 Land Cruisers is a known issue which our dealership and Toyota USA is trying to ignore. 8 trips, weeks in the shop. They say "there is no range and it's within specs." If there's low-med-high there's a range and industry standard on many SUV makes & models is: low ~85-95f, med ~95-105f, high ~105-115f. *** 60.8-77f is not ok. In the shop with thermal imaging the highest is 73-77f. Filed complaints and it will take attorneys to resolve. 2 major issues: hybrid engine lag on uphill take off is safety issue, Toyota Engineering issue even in Sport mode "nothing we can do". Otherwise I like the vehicle and the FJ80 I had all decked out.
 

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Heated seats not working properly in the new J250 Land Cruisers is a known issue which our dealership and Toyota USA is trying to ignore. 8 trips, weeks in the shop. They say "there is no range and it's within specs." If there's low-med-high there's a range and industry standard on many SUV makes & models is: low ~85-95f, med ~95-105f, high ~105-115f. *** 60.8-77f is not ok. In the shop with thermal imaging the highest is 73-77f. Filed complaints and it will take attorneys to resolve. 2 major issues: hybrid engine lag on uphill take off is safety issue, Toyota Engineering issue even in Sport mode "nothing we can do". Otherwise I like the vehicle and the FJ80 I had all decked out.
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