Attempted Theft and the Backorder Struggle

[EOD Guy]

Man that's Crazy!

 

[J44]

Curious why you’ve chosen waxoyl vs corrosion free or fluid film - many reviews indicate the waxoyl dries and cracks .. not sure how true or effective .. I’m leaning towards fluid film or corrosion free. Tried the anti rust electronic device on my 5th gen didn’t stop underbody rust over the years ..curious to hear your thoughts or if you have any previous experience with this product?

I’ve tried Krown it’s messy with dripping I don’t recommend it- then tried corrosion free for more than 7 years works well so far .. also read a report online that it’s the same product used by national defence on vehicles to prevent rust .. as they’ve tested multiple products as well

Really all have pros and cons, I just like the care these guys take to ensure it is done right. Finished product looks good, not messy etc.

 

[vcs111]

Not sure which, you can phone them and ask. It’s got hijack mode, code to get in that you set up, can put in service mode and has a key fob if you want to use. Works great. You can give someone the key, never going to be able to move it. On the under coating I’m getting it done this fall, going with Waxoyl , put on by Advanced auto salon. Another hint, take a pc of black cardboard and slide it down over you VIN number, no reason to have that exposed.

Not sure this is a problem where I am, but for an investment of 5 minutes and some stiff plastic it is worth it. I cut it in an L shape (that is like a hockey stick for you Canadians, eh?) so I could have a tab to grab for easy removal.

 

[ultane]

Unilad tech seems to think this would work..

 

[vcs111]

Unlad tech seems to think this would work..

Must be in Canada...

 

[Piggy]

 

[wpage]

Crime in big cities is out of control... So blame who you choose.

When these expensive cars go on a thieves marketplace. It is attractive to criminals.

 

[Daytonacoupe66]

I wonder to what degree the brand's desirability internationally makes it a preferred target. Is Toyota's electronic Canbus system remarkably more deficient than the competition? From the little that I've read, Tesla appears to be alone in the robust anti-theft measures corner. Looking at the attached source for Canadian stats on car thefts it is definitely a problem, and where Toyota rides high on the list, it isn't exclusive. I'll assume, perhaps erroneously, that NA car makers don't sell a lot of product overseas, so this would make their rides less desirable to offload into an illegal market.

Back in the day of unlocked cars and easy to defeat ignition systems, theft wasn't a prevalent concern. Many factors underlie this epidemic.

Most Stolen Cars In Canada | Top 10 List 2025

Dive into the world of auto theft with our blog on the most stolen cars in Canada. Learn the reasons behind their desirability among thieves from coast to coast and discover effective strategies to keep your vehicle safe and secure.

www.thinkinsure.ca

 

[supernova]

here in texas, the most stolen vehicle is chevy Silverado (also other trucks in the list) . In Texas pickup trucks dominate the roads/country side. I think if the vehicle is easily accessible and has a high market value, the thieves will target it

 

[dato6966]

I've posted this on other threads on this forum - From my research, Toyota UK is offering a CAN bus protection solution called the "Toyota CAN BUS Gateway Blocker," which is a hardware device designed to prevent the CAN invader theft method by isolating the ECU from the rest of the vehicle CAN network when the ignition is off. The cost quoted by a dealer for this blocker is around £325 for the part, with additional fitting fees not specified, This blocker requires installation by a Toyota main dealer and is intended to enhance vehicle security against CAN bus electronic theft attacks.

This solution has been rolling out since around 2023, mostly for models pre-2022 that are vulnerable, and it is available through Toyota UK's service network. It seems from limited information that it also is fitted to the Land Cruiser. Maybe it's time to start putting pressure on Toyota-North America for this since there is clearly a problem and Toyota UK (& maybe elsewhere is addressing the issue). The other bigger question is since Toyota knows how to block this type of theft, why isn't it automatically installed at the factory? Presumably cost but my insurance premium increase, as one of the most stolen vehicles would far outweigh this cost.

I'm currently using a heavy duty steering wheel lock for SUVs - and other security at home but investigating other measures that can be layered on to what I've done

Of interest is the recent thefts in Japan - yet Toyota seems deaf to the problem

Position	Model	Thefts In H1 2025	Thefts In H1 2024
1	Toyota Land Cruiser	765	590
2	Toyota Prius	289	287
3	Toyota Alphard	191	303
4	Lexus RX	141	80
5	Lexus LX	120	112
6	Toyota Crown Series	107	44
7	Toyota Hiace	97	60
8	Lexus LS	55	44
9	Toyota Harrier	50	17
10	Suzuki Carry	43	44

 

[papa_tonez]

Ottawa

Sorry to hear! Canada car thefts seem way more sophisticated than the ones in the US. We only got punks getting older Kias and Hyundais because of their insanely weak security.

 

[Spongeworthy]

It happened. What we'd been expecting from day one came to pass. Someone tried to steal my Landcuiser.

Early Friday morning last week, my wife and I were awoken to the sound of a car alarm. Didn't take long for us to realize that it was coming from our car. My wife went to the other room to look out the window which looks onto our driveway to see two individuals sauntering over to a car parked in the street and drive off.

We called the cops. The LC's aftermarket alarm was still blaring. I made my rounds as I went outside to turn off the alarm: driver's door open, lower corner of the dash trim pried open, and glass from the rear passenger window strewen across the rear seats. I also came across a curious piece of wire on the floor of the driver's seat which we later found out was from the would-be thieves' ECU hacking device.

All in all, I was impressed at the lack of damage. It was a funny feeling coming to the realization that it shouldn't come as a surprise considering the motive was to ship the LC off somewhere to be sold.

I have to say that in the heat of the moment, there was really little emotion other than the stupor of waking up at 2:30am and managing the situation with police, my wife, and two very excited young dogs. I was actually quite happy our aftermarket alarm and immobilizer had done its job of preventing the thieves from driving off with the vehicle.

No, the frustration set in much later: the LC was completely unresponsive to the key fob; I had to go tape up the window in the middle of the night in windy, -20⁰ weather; the first tow truck couldn't get the LC to the shop because we were unable to disengage the electronic parking brake; the insurances appraiser wouldn't be able to come until later the following week to complete the estimate; and finally, despite the only real damage being a side window and some dash trim, parts were unavailable to complete the repairs.

Among it all, the biggest sting is now having to drive around with a taped up window in the winter for an indeterminate amount of time. I guess I should be thankful I still have the LC - in all certainty thanks to having chosen to pay for additional peace of mind in the aftermarket security system.

I just hope the wait for a part like a window isn't a 3-6 month long nightmare I've been reading in similar threads here and elsewhere!

 

[ZNFRNO]

Sorry this happened to you and good luck. I had to drive around for nearly 2 months with plastic wrapped around my window last winter when someone broke into mine. I used trac wrap and wrapped around the window opening from the top to the bottomof the window opening…with the door closed, the top was sealed and by wrapping around the door, it created a makeshift dual-pane…that helped a little with the cold weather.

 

[Chris_lc]

Not sure which, you can phone them and ask. It’s got hijack mode, code to get in that you set up, can put in service mode and has a key fob if you want to use. Works great. You can give someone the key, never going to be able to move it. On the under coating I’m getting it done this fall, going with Waxoyl , put on by Advanced auto salon. Another hint, take a pc of black cardboard and slide it down over you VIN number, no reason to have that exposed.

Hey @J44 .. circling back on this I did reach out to the Durham guy and was told the Hijack mode is not legal in Canada !! Go figure .. did they tell you that? Did you test that it works ? The also mentioned that it requires the phone app and is useless if the phone was stolen with the vehicle - and they don’t recommend that … On another note - did they install one or two modules ? Others installers are recommending two ! .. so confusing and IGLA does not provide clear information…

 

[J44]

Hey @J44 .. circling back on this I did reach out to the Durham guy and was told the Hijack mode is not legal in Canada !! Go figure .. did they tell you that? Did you test that it works ? The also mentioned that it requires the phone app and is useless if the phone was stolen with the vehicle - and they don’t recommend that … On another note - did they install one or two modules ? Others installers are recommending two ! .. so confusing and IGLA does not provide clear information…

Interesting, I have model Pro 231 , I believe one module? and says Anti carjacking mode….not anti hijacking mode? but don’t think it’s activated ? If LC is started and I leave the car, and get back in, you don’t have to re enter the code. You can google IGLA pro 231 and details come up.

 

[jpto]

Interesting, I have model Pro 231 , I believe one module? and says Anti carjacking mode….not anti hijacking mode? but don’t think it’s activated ? If LC is started and I leave the car, and get back in, you don’t have to re enter the code. You can google IGLA pro 231 and details come up.View attachment 51365

One thing to note about IGLA, they say they don't cut standard wiring this isn't 100% true, the installer splices into the wiring harness when installing the module, it's technically not cutting the cars wiring but it's not plug and play. Take a look at the module in the product photos those loose wires get spliced into the wiring harness somewhere.

This is why I recommend people get it done through their dealer when they purchase the car since it's on the invoice and the dealer should stand behind their work in case there's any issues down the road with warranty.

I'm trying to find the link but there was an article about a GTA Lexus owner who was having electrical issues and Toyota denied the warranty due to "damage" from the installation. I believe the IGLA installer was actually the shop the dealer uses but they had it installed after delivery. The owner had to pay out of pocket for a new wiring harness and had IGLA removed. The worst part of the story was his RX was stolen after the repairs/IGLA removal

I've also heard that if you're a pro you can detect the IGLA module relatively quickly through bluetooth and knowledge of a cars wiring harness, apparently there aren't that many places the module can be installed. That's why I got TAG as well.

 

[t3lcfe]

One thing to note about IGLA, they say they don't cut standard wiring this isn't 100% true, the installer splices into the wiring harness when installing the module, it's technically not cutting the cars wiring but it's not plug and play. Take a look at the module in the product photos those loose wires get spliced into the wiring harness somewhere.

This is why I recommend people get it done through their dealer when they purchase the car since it's on the invoice and the dealer should stand behind their work in case there's any issues down the road with warranty.

I'm trying to find the link but there was an article about a GTA Lexus owner who was having electrical issues and Toyota denied the warranty due to "damage" from the installation. I believe the IGLA installer was actually the shop the dealer uses but they had it installed after delivery. The owner had to pay out of pocket for a new wiring harness and had IGLA removed. The worst part of the story was his RX was stolen after the repairs/IGLA removal

I've also heard that if you're a pro you can detect the IGLA module relatively quickly through bluetooth and knowledge of a cars wiring harness, apparently there aren't that many places the module can be installed. That's why I got TAG as well.

I used this product which works very well for me on my LC.
With this drop-in kill switch, you don’t need to cut any OEM wires. Only replace the OEM starter relay by the bypass relay and can be reverse back to OEM any time you want.
Use 10% discount code if you like: “Thanh”

Drop-in Kill Switch 41.22

Man... that looks like a great alternative to an IGLA. If they made the wireless set-up to work with a proximity card/tag that just enabled the relay.. just have the card/tag in the vehicle, no need to switch the remote each time. That would be perfect IMHO.

www.landcruiserforum.com

 

[Chris_lc]

Interesting, I have model Pro 231 , I believe one module? and says Anti carjacking mode….not anti hijacking mode? but don’t think it’s activated ? If LC is started and I leave the car, and get back in, you don’t have to re enter the code. You can google IGLA pro 231 and details come up.View attachment 51365

Interesting, I have model Pro 231 , I believe one module? and says Anti carjacking mode….not anti hijacking mode? but don’t think it’s activated ? If LC is started and I leave the car, and get back in, you don’t have to re enter the code. You can google IGLA pro 231 and details come up.View attachment 51365

Interesting indeed ... some dealers are recommending two modules ... the other interesting part is some dealers permit to witness the installations other claim it's not authorized by igla for "security reasons" ... also they're recommending to disable bluetooth do to security reasons and just going with the PIN ... and Yes my bad Carjacking not Hijacking ... was posting from my phone

 

[Chris_lc]

One thing to note about IGLA, they say they don't cut standard wiring this isn't 100% true, the installer splices into the wiring harness when installing the module, it's technically not cutting the cars wiring but it's not plug and play. Take a look at the module in the product photos those loose wires get spliced into the wiring harness somewhere.

This is why I recommend people get it done through their dealer when they purchase the car since it's on the invoice and the dealer should stand behind their work in case there's any issues down the road with warranty.

I'm trying to find the link but there was an article about a GTA Lexus owner who was having electrical issues and Toyota denied the warranty due to "damage" from the installation. I believe the IGLA installer was actually the shop the dealer uses but they had it installed after delivery. The owner had to pay out of pocket for a new wiring harness and had IGLA removed. The worst part of the story was his RX was stolen after the repairs/IGLA removal

I've also heard that if you're a pro you can detect the IGLA module relatively quickly through bluetooth and knowledge of a cars wiring harness, apparently there aren't that many places the module can be installed. That's why I got TAG as well.

Hi Jpto , thanks for sharing .. I'm planning on getting the TAG + Igla - the goal for the igla is to mitigate the successful removal or theft of the vehicle from its parked location within a short period or carjacking! .. TAG won't mitigate that. Some igla dealers are advising to disable bluetooth and not permitting owners to know where the igla is installed in the vehicle to hide it .. kind of adding another layer with the "need to know" principal or maybe hiding any mess they do with their work ..(that's TBD )

As for warranty ! I agree a major concern .. but here's the kicker the Lexus owner lost his vehicle after removing the device .. i.e. all the headache and inconvenience to get another Vehicle., insurance, etc... vs the cost of the wiring harness. so Damned if we do, damned if we don’t use the proper security measures..

Any suggested measures or alternatives to the Igla for the purposes stated? Toyota dealers in the GTA are not installing the igla.. i've asked around and the one in Ancaster if you didn't buy the vehicle from them they will direct you to their installer.. Thoughts???

 

[Chris_lc]

I used this product which works very well for me on my LC.
With this drop-in kill switch, you don’t need to cut any OEM wires. Only replace the OEM starter relay by the bypass relay and can be reverse back to OEM any time you want.
Use 10% discount code if you like: “Thanh”

Drop-in Kill Switch 41.22

Man... that looks like a great alternative to an IGLA. If they made the wireless set-up to work with a proximity card/tag that just enabled the relay.. just have the card/tag in the vehicle, no need to switch the remote each time. That would be perfect IMHO.

www.landcruiserforum.com

Quick question as i'm not too sure how the device works - what stops the thieves from breaking the glass - opening the hood and replacing the kill switch relay ? would that stop the can bus attacks and programming another key?