17 inch Genuine Toyota Steelies

[Antropov]

The wheels came in, and the metallic dark gray paint they came with looked too good to me to paint over it right away. Might do that at some point in the future if they start to rust, but for now I like the black.

I put on some Nitto Terra Grappler G3's in 285/70r17, and they fit perfectly inside the wheel well without poking out. Seems to handle just like stock so far with a similar offset. I just might try to find a dust cap for the rear axles if I get tired of staring at the rust.

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I have the feeling, but hard to be sure, that your LC with that rim size, looks a bit lower than the Dubai's version posted above. Could it be that the UAE versions / utility versions have springs that would be, if not higher, a bit firmer, hence seat 1-2 cm higher when vehicle is empty? It seems visible at least at the back.

I am not a fan of modified vehicles, at all, otherwise I would not read this post... but I think a small and discreet rise of the suspension would suit the whole setup nice... what you think ?

Overall your setup is exactly the one I wished I had. Plain, simple, authentic legendary LC, back to basic qualities that made it succesful all around the globe.

 

[arash]

I have the feeling, but hard to be sure, that your LC with that rim size, looks a bit lower than the Dubai's version posted above. Could it be that the UAE versions / utility versions have springs that would be, if not higher, a bit firmer, hence seat 1-2 cm higher when vehicle is empty? It seems visible at least at the back.

I am not a fan of modified vehicles, at all, otherwise I would not read this post... but I think a small and discreet rise of the suspension would suit the whole setup nice... what you think ?

Overall your setup is exactly the one I wished I had. Plain, simple, authentic legendary LC, back to basic qualities that made it succesful all around the globe.

It’s hard to tell if the gap is larger due to the suspension or if it appears that way because my tires are bigger than the Middle East one. It looks like they’re using a smaller highway tire, and on a 17 inch rim that would likely be even smaller in diameter than the 1958 stock 245/70r18.

Here’s a photo of mine at a similar angle.

As for getting a lift, I think it would look good with at least the front a bit higher but I’m not planning on getting one any time soon. Reason being is that once it’s modified, those suspension parts may not be as reliable and could require more maintenance. I wouldn’t want a spacer lift that makes the ride harsher and limits articulation, so it would need to be a more extensive and expensive upgrade. Someday I might look into some of the manufacturers that also provide OEM Toyota suspensions like Old Man Emu, especially if I get a lot more into off roading once the vehicle is a little older. For now, I share your sentiment of keeping it utilitarian and not over the top. Only other upgrades I have planned right now are skid plates and side rails.

 

[6-funk]

I love this look! I want to do this to my 58' ice cap too! But the brake caliper clearance concerns me. Do any of you think there could be an issue with debris getting stuck in that small space and grinding or scraping the wheel or damaging the caliper? Cheers!

 

[arash]

Valid concern. The front wheels have ample clearance with the calipers, but the rears are somewhere around 1mm between wheel and top of caliper. The wheels are steel so not really worried about damaging them, and the caliper would only get scraped if there’s somehow any contact.

I’ve seen some say as long as there’s any clearance at all it’s fine and many people have run that fine without issue. At the same time I’ve seen brake manufacturer recommendations of at least 5mm clearance. Things are fine so far and hopefully won’t be an issue.

 

[6-funk]

Thanks for the reply! Yeah the Internet seems to think 2-3 mm is the minimum. I've also read that if it clears it's fine as the two (wheel and caliper) move together. Now if I can just get consensus on whether or not 87 octane is ok I'll be good!

 

[arash]

I think running a wheel spacer would solve the clearance issue. Just need to find a reliable 3mm+ thick spacer.

I would just run premium. The engine is designed to run it, it’ll run smoother with it, and you don’t have to worry that maybe you’re putting more wear on the engine. Where I live, premium is about 15% more expensive which is worth the peace of mind. Some people with cars that don’t require premium even run it for smoother operation and potential engine longevity benefits. Finally, the car’s computer can detect octane and there’s a non zero chance that a warranty issue could be denied because premium fuel wasn’t used when it’s required.

 

[Roonie]

I run spidertrax wheel spacer with my FJ62 17" steelies and it has worked great. I have had it on now for 3 years or so no problems.

 

[6-funk]

Thanks, I was just teasing about the great octane debate. But you also helped clear up another question. The space must be tight between the mounting surface of the wheel, not the barrel. I assumed the it was a issue of the smaller wheel diameter. Cool, thanks for the tips!

 

[arash]

I run spidertrax wheel spacer with my FJ62 17" steelies and it has worked great. I have had it on now for 3 years or so no problems.

Those look high quality. I just wish they made less than a 1 inch thickness because the current 60mm wheel offset is working really well for my tires.

 

[Stage7]

The wheels came in, and the metallic dark gray paint they came with looked too good to me to paint over it right away. Might do that at some point in the future if they start to rust, but for now I like the black.

I put on some Nitto Terra Grappler G3's in 285/70r17, and they fit perfectly inside the wheel well without poking out. Seems to handle just like stock so far with a similar offset. I just might try to find a dust cap for the rear axles if I get tired of staring at the rust.

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I ran my 4runner without caps. I just took the wheels off the back and painted the hub with some black Rustoleum spray paint and they looked fine after that.

 

[Stage7]

The wheels came in, and the metallic dark gray paint they came with looked too good to me to paint over it right away. Might do that at some point in the future if they start to rust, but for now I like the black.

I put on some Nitto Terra Grappler G3's in 285/70r17, and they fit perfectly inside the wheel well without poking out. Seems to handle just like stock so far with a similar offset. I just might try to find a dust cap for the rear axles if I get tired of staring at the rust.

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btw what is the wheel width and offset?

 

[arash]

btw what is the wheel width and offset?

7 in. width with 60mm offset. Haven't experienced any rubbing that I can notice even going off road.

And yeah, I'll probably end up panting the hubs. Need to just wire brush or chemically remove the surface rust they have developed first.

 

[grandsons]

The wheels are steel so not really worried about damaging them, and the caliper would only get scraped if there’s somehow any contact.

What worries me isn't the scratches, but the wheel getting stuck because of a small stone.

 

[Stage7]

What worries me isn't the scratches, but the wheel getting stuck because of a small stone.

I read a post where the poster refuted this notion stating stones come in all shapes and sizes so they could potentially get stuck between any space between rim and brake caliper regardless of amount of space and has not heard of it being an issue. Just food for thought.

 

[arash]

To add to that, I’d imagine what’s more likely than the wheel stopping is that the stone would get crushed to a powder or the aluminum surface of the caliper would scrape a small amount that shouldn’t be an issue, since the size of the stone would be very tiny to get into that gap anyways. I don’t know what material a 1 or 2 mm diameter stone would need to be made of to stop the wheel but maybe a physicist can chime in.

 

[bigthom]

Cant wait to go back to these. The pinnacle of all cowboy, no hat.

 

[grandsons]

I read a post where the poster refuted this notion stating stones come in all shapes and sizes so they could potentially get stuck between any space between rim and brake caliper regardless of amount of space and has not heard of it being an issue. Just food for thought.

Yes, the pre-opting is right. Maybe the field of mechanics concerned by projectiles in conjunction with probability will maybe show an optimum size/occurences. Maybe some mud or pastry clay may play a role too when stuck down to the fenders. Or also just ice that may "glue" the calliper to the wheel.

My personal experience with little stones and brakes, happened during a journey on highway in Italy, a gravel founds its way through the ventilation slot of the braking disc and ended up in the space between the center of the brake rotor (disc?) and the wheel hub. When driving a slow speed for stopping, with the driver window open, I heard a tic-tic-tic sound. I stopped in a garage and the mechanic just removed the wheel, then the brake rotor and a little stone felt down. He laughed and told me it was like winning the lottery.

Anyway I read on a forum that Toyota does not recommend 17" wheels on the J250, but cannot check the source.

 

[Stage7]

Yes, the pre-opting is right. Maybe the field of mechanics concerned by projectiles in conjunction with probability will maybe show an optimum size/occurences. Maybe some mud or pastry clay may play a role too when stuck down to the fenders. Or also just ice that may "glue" the calliper to the wheel.

My personal experience with little stones and brakes, happened during a journey on highway in Italy, a gravel founds its way through the ventilation slot of the braking disc and ended up in the space between the center of the brake rotor (disc?) and the wheel hub. When driving a slow speed for stopping, with the driver window open, I heard a tic-tic-tic sound. I stopped in a garage and the mechanic just removed the wheel, then the brake rotor and a little stone felt down. He laughed and told me it was like winning the lottery.

Anyway I read on a forum that Toyota does not recommend 17" wheels on the J250, but cannot check the source.

Well, I'm going to see how the 2024 17"x 7.5" +55 offset Taco TRD wheels work with the LC. If it's not a good thing I'll put the wheels I currently have back on. Just trying to get a little more sidewall with the tire.
I've run 265/70R18 E load tires, to stiff; 285/65R18 SL tires, to wide and currently have 275/70R18 on 18" Taco wheels but the +45 offset leaves a little to much tire beyond the mud flaps making a mess. I'm going to try the 34/10.5R17 tire in D load (wish it was C) with the 17" Taco's hoping it's the proverbial Goldilocks.
I'm not worried about ice build up because my snow/ice tires are on the stock FE 18"x7.5"+60 wheels. I'm more worried about the spare location. I'll know soon and if it works I'll post photos.

 

[arash]

Someone on the forum elsewhere said the spare fits easily with the Toyo 34/10.5R17. I would've gone with those but ended up with the 285s just cause they were SL load and 7lbs lighter than the D load 34s. The 34s do seem like a great choice though.

 

[Stage7]

Someone on the forum elsewhere said the spare fits easily with the Toyo 34/10.5R17. I would've gone with those but ended up with the 285s just cause they were SL load and 7lbs lighter than the D load 34s. The 34s do seem like a great choice though.

I don't see how it could because the 285/70R18 doesn't fit and that's 33.7" diameter. There is a metal bracket that may have to be modified or maybe it sits at a wonky angle but because of the narrower tire it is not as noticeable as the 285 width. My 285/65R18 was the same diameter as the 265/70R18 tire and fit fine but the wider tire sat lower by about an inch or so.
I really, really wish that Toyota would've kept the barn door with tire carrier like the older LC's, but no, they had to go and make it a hatchback with the spare down below. That makes me think they weren't thinking of the Prado/J250 as a heavy duty offroad vehicle or maybe they thought that the rock crawlers would probably have an aftermarket rear bumper with tire carrier. I'll never know though and it is what it is. Still love the truck, 17k miles and no problems thus far.