The Unexpected Risk of an Early Break-In Oil Change

What did that clicking sound like? I've noticed sometimes my LC (1958) has a sort of diesel-esque clacking every now and then when accelerating usually from like 10 - 45 mph. I've thought this is just the engine note but your post has me wondering otherwise...
That seems to be normal, the sound I heard was unmistakably that of an engine in distress. Not at all subtle. My first thought was the tech left a rag under the hood, which was being eaten by the fan. Since then I've found a few videos of various engines knocking, and that was pretty much it.
 
I'm sorry to hear this but not surprised. I will not and I would advise not to have oil changes done at Toyota even free ever! Trust me on this, they are the worst. Now, for what damage they did, most likely engine and you should be very concerned. Again, I feel for you and would up channel your experience to Toyota corporation and have them replace your 1958. Do you trust them to swap out an engine after this?
That’s a good point.
Of course the tech who performs oil changes shouldn’t be the one changing engines, but just the though of it, should make you stop and rethink
 
That’s a good point.
Of course the tech who performs oil changes shouldn’t be the one changing engines, but just the though of it, should make you stop and rethink
Welcome to the asylum sigglin99.
 
That’s a good point.
Of course the tech who performs oil changes shouldn’t be the one changing engines, but just the though of it, should make you stop and rethink
Welcome to the Jungle!
 
it's quite unfortunate that this happened to you, however your title is misleading - this is not a risk of an early oil change. This is the risk of letting a dealership change your fluids.
I hope you can find peace of mind and also just retributions for their error. And for christs sake - change your own fluids. It's easy and you can even do it on your own time.
This has nothing to do with whether it is a Toyota dealer, an independent service shop or you changing oil in your driveway.

The rule is always the same. That rule is:

When you change oil in any vehicle engine; before you start the engine again..... check the oil level on the dipstick.
 
I've had my 1958 for just over two weeks, and I'm already up to ~1300 miles. Probably my favorite vehicle that I've owned, and one I intend to keep for a long time. This particular car was delivered to me with just 6 miles on it, 2 of which I put on during my initial test drive. I liked that since it meant some yokel didn't flog a fresh engine on a test drive. I've since babied it through the full break-in period as required, and even still been very light on the throttle.

So in the interest of longevity, I scheduled my initial oil change at a local dealer (which I did not buy the car from) today, paying out-of-pocket to keep the included full-service ones for later. When I was ready to leave, it sounded normal at first...then almost like something was rubbing the fan, or some other rotating part. A horrible, diesel-ish mechanical ticking sound that varied with RPM - but it quickly went into hybrid mode, so not long enough to confirm, or see if it fixed itself. I had my suspicions, but all I could do was a short loop in the parking lot to confirm the sound remained - which it did.

Pulled back in, turned truck off, got the service advisor who had me start it up. Sounded okay at initial idle on startup, but the tick was there when the engine revved up at all. Yelled for me to shut it off, pulled the dipstick to confirm it was dry. Checking with the shop, said "the oil pump malfunctioned and dispensed .5 quarts instead of 5.5". Offered that they would do an analysis at the next oil change to check for damage, which I got in writing. Said if that doesn't look good we will "talk to Toyota".

So that's where we are. Truck didn't run much with low oil since it was aggressively going into hybrid mode, probably no more than a minute or two after I got it - who knows how long in the shop. Probably never revved above 2500 rpm or so. Really surprised tech hadn't noticed something was wrong when backing it out of the service bay, but clearly said tech also didn't verify the oil level on the dipstick. I knew enough to know something was wrong, this could have been a major disaster (for them) for so many others, who would have driven until the engine seized. I'm not out for blood or to get something for nothing, but I want to keep this car a long time, and I don't want to worry that dumb mistake (that I paid someone else to make) has doomed the longevity of my engine. My questions:

• How worried should I be about engine damage?
• Am I likely in the clear if the analysis turn out okay?
• Even if the analysis is good at 5000 miles, did this do something that will show at, say, 150,000 miles?
• Should I wait until 10,000 mile for my next oil change to give whatever damage may have occurred the opportunity to show itself?
• Interestingly, no warning lights or notifications. I would have expected something to scream the oil level is low.
• What seems fair and reasonable to ask for here? I love the truck, I want to keep it - but if it does need a new engine, I'm a little uneasy about that level or work required on a truck I just bought. And then I have no truck while the work is being done. But I also don't want to have to worry about it dying early, or I'll end up trading it in way too soon.
• At minimum, regardless of the analysis, would it be fair to ask for a Toyota extended warranty? Ideally the highest mileage they offer, to ensure I'm covered if there are engine issues that come up well down the road?
• Any other advice?

The advisor is going to let the service manager know. I'm hoping someone reaches out tomorrow and makes a reasonable offer to make things right and set me at ease - whatever that is. I'm both hesitant to ever take the car back there since the tech didn't check the dipstick after (is that procedure, or a huge oversight?), but I'm stuck for at least the next oil change.

Thanks!

Get a new engine out of this dealership is my call. 0.5-quarts of oil with likely none in the filter upon installation, who knows how much damage was caused, it only takes seconds. If the oil analysis shows heavy wear metals, beyond what's normal for engine break-in, they owe you a new replacement engine.

This is the highest liability job for any shop, and they often leave it to the most inexperienced technicians.

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Glad to see you got a great outcome, that's exactly what I would want. Sad part however, is that vehicle was likely sold to someone unaware that this ever happened.
 
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I've had my 1958 for just over two weeks, and I'm already up to ~1300 miles. Probably my favorite vehicle that I've owned, and one I intend to keep for a long time. This particular car was delivered to me with just 6 miles on it, 2 of which I put on during my initial test drive. I liked that since it meant some yokel didn't flog a fresh engine on a test drive. I've since babied it through the full break-in period as required, and even still been very light on the throttle.

So in the interest of longevity, I scheduled my initial oil change at a local dealer (which I did not buy the car from) today, paying out-of-pocket to keep the included full-service ones for later. When I was ready to leave, it sounded normal at first...then almost like something was rubbing the fan, or some other rotating part. A horrible, diesel-ish mechanical ticking sound that varied with RPM - but it quickly went into hybrid mode, so not long enough to confirm, or see if it fixed itself. I had my suspicions, but all I could do was a short loop in the parking lot to confirm the sound remained - which it did.

Pulled back in, turned truck off, got the service advisor who had me start it up. Sounded okay at initial idle on startup, but the tick was there when the engine revved up at all. Yelled for me to shut it off, pulled the dipstick to confirm it was dry. Checking with the shop, said "the oil pump malfunctioned and dispensed .5 quarts instead of 5.5". Offered that they would do an analysis at the next oil change to check for damage, which I got in writing. Said if that doesn't look good we will "talk to Toyota".

So that's where we are. Truck didn't run much with low oil since it was aggressively going into hybrid mode, probably no more than a minute or two after I got it - who knows how long in the shop. Probably never revved above 2500 rpm or so. Really surprised tech hadn't noticed something was wrong when backing it out of the service bay, but clearly said tech also didn't verify the oil level on the dipstick. I knew enough to know something was wrong, this could have been a major disaster (for them) for so many others, who would have driven until the engine seized. I'm not out for blood or to get something for nothing, but I want to keep this car a long time, and I don't want to worry that dumb mistake (that I paid someone else to make) has doomed the longevity of my engine. My questions:

• How worried should I be about engine damage?
• Am I likely in the clear if the analysis turn out okay?
• Even if the analysis is good at 5000 miles, did this do something that will show at, say, 150,000 miles?
• Should I wait until 10,000 mile for my next oil change to give whatever damage may have occurred the opportunity to show itself?
• Interestingly, no warning lights or notifications. I would have expected something to scream the oil level is low.
• What seems fair and reasonable to ask for here? I love the truck, I want to keep it - but if it does need a new engine, I'm a little uneasy about that level or work required on a truck I just bought. And then I have no truck while the work is being done. But I also don't want to have to worry about it dying early, or I'll end up trading it in way too soon.
• At minimum, regardless of the analysis, would it be fair to ask for a Toyota extended warranty? Ideally the highest mileage they offer, to ensure I'm covered if there are engine issues that come up well down the road?
• Any other advice?

The advisor is going to let the service manager know. I'm hoping someone reaches out tomorrow and makes a reasonable offer to make things right and set me at ease - whatever that is. I'm both hesitant to ever take the car back there since the tech didn't check the dipstick after (is that procedure, or a huge oversight?), but I'm stuck for at least the next oil change.

Thanks!
Hi, each time I go for an oil change, I fear this will happen to me. My humble suggestion: Do ask and obtain an extended warranty. Nothing less will be acceptable. After the extended warranty is over, sell this LC. Of course I will never go there again. Who can afford disaster 2.0. A deep and profuse apology is also needed. In our busy lives, we do not have time for incompetence.
 
The problem, if one develops is the new owner’s problem now. And proceed to blame it on 0w-20 :ROFLMAO:
 
I wouldn’t worry. The amount of time running with low oil was minimal. They documented the error, committed to checking for evidence of damage moving forward, and you’re under warranty. If anything goes wrong, you should be covered.
 
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