MPGs - Many People Griping - A Foundational Knowledge Primer To Assist in Better Efficiency

With about 15k miles, since purchase I have 22.1 MPG.
 
If you brake too softly, you may get minimal regen, but if you brake too hard, the friction brakes override regen almost entirely. The sweet spot is anticipating stops early and applying steady, moderate pressure, which gives the system enough deceleration demand to maximize regeneration while avoiding wasteful heat in the pads. Smooth and measured braking is your best bet for capturing the most energy.

Thanks for this. I've been driving the LC the way my 21 Venza hybrid trained me to, and found it disappointing that the battery never charged above 3-4 bars, and the engine rarely shut off.

The Venza had the Prius-style Charge/Eco/Power gauge (which I wish we also had), so it was easy to know when it switched from regen to friction brakes. The Venza liked long, gradual stops and coasting. Now that I'm braking the LC more moderately, the battery is definitely charging more and the engine shutting off regularly. I also get Max boost more which is nice. I expect MPG has gone up too, will know for sure when I fill up next.
 
Both tires in these pictures are 315. The one below my truck is stock f150 Raptor ko2 weighing 63lb the other is same size but Goodyear wrangler at 52lb you can clearly see that although the total side to side width is the same the contact patch of the k02 is more than an inch wider than the Goodyear
Does the goodyear actually measures at 52lbs?
 
My mpg has gotten better over time, but it’s not as good as advertised. I am close to 6,000 miles at this point and I started with an 18 mpg at purchase and now I’m up to 22 mpg with 60% city driving and 40% highway. The best I have ever gotten is 24 mpg with mostly highway driving.
 
FYI, in order to support very different use cases, the LC 250 has a completely different hybrid architecture than the Venza. There's lots of info in this forum and online explaining why and how it is different.
 
FYI, in order to support very different use cases, the LC 250 has a completely different hybrid architecture than the Venza. There's lots of info in this forum and online explaining why and how it is different.
Oh yes, I'm aware. As dull as it was, I have a ton of respect for the Venza/Prius eCVT hybrid setup and its incredible simplicity, efficiency, and durability. It is surprising though how different it is to drive each efficiently.
 
Our Land Cruiser Premium is our 9th hybrid (my wife and me - not including our kids). They've all been Toyota or Lexus.
This LC is her car.

We learned long ago how to "hyper-mileage." That means:
-Anticipating stop lights or stop signs and coasting as far as possible (Toyota's bearing are super-smooth, I mean like magic-fairy-dust super smooth and they feel like they'll coast forever....);
-Slow starts and slow stops (think a spaceship super cruiser.....);
-Cruise control on the highways;
-We keep it at 75 - there always seems to be a huge drop-off above 75. (And you've lost 5 or 10 miles in an hour??? Big whoop!)

Admittedly, she puts in regular and I sneak in premium when she's not looking. We live in Utah and do a lot of mountain driving, but no serious off-roading (yet!)....

(I've used Regular Gas on multiple "91-Octane Only" Lexus and have gotten well north of 200k miles on them. They're still going strong and have been problem-free!)
 
This is laughable. You tool 83 minutes to go 38 miles. Did you push it?
Why laughable? Is every road interstate speed? What about Highway speed limits of 45-55 mph, dirt roads being much slower, even slower for rock crawling? Are you making a mistaken assumption that my MPG was from interstate travel?
 
Seems to come down mostly to behavior. Those who pay attention and care enough to make necessary adjustments will see the best MPGs in their vehicles. Those who don’t will say it’s “smiles per gallon” or something similar and 1/2 of them will be wondering why they get 15 in a rig others are getting 25 or better in. I for one appreciate anyone trying to get the best efficiency out of whatever they drive.
 
Thanks for this. I've been driving the LC the way my 21 Venza hybrid trained me to, and found it disappointing that the battery never charged above 3-4 bars, and the engine rarely shut off.

The Venza had the Prius-style Charge/Eco/Power gauge (which I wish we also had), so it was easy to know when it switched from regen to friction brakes. The Venza liked long, gradual stops and coasting. Now that I'm braking the LC more moderately, the battery is definitely charging more and the engine shutting off regularly. I also get Max boost more which is nice. I expect MPG has gone up too, will know for sure when I fill up next.
Funny enough, that cluster existed at some point, but for some reason it got removed from the final product. I wish they kept it instead of the “race car” cluster layout.
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Funny enough, that cluster existed at some point, but for some reason it got removed from the final product. I wish they kept it instead of the “race car” cluster layout.
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That’s the “smart” cluster style. I have it on the 1958. My 25 xse Camry had the same option as well.
 
That’s the “smart” cluster style. I have it on the 1958. My 25 xse Camry had the same option as well.
Do you have charge/eco/power on your cluster?
 
I don't have that; I can either Have a Tach or Speedometer on my smart gauge style or any style for that matter unless I'm missing something?
 
Does anyone know if there was anything altered around the fuel tank on the American Prado vs the AU version?

I am looking into getting an OEM 80L, interested in whether anyone could post some photos/measurements between the tank frame & other components.
 
Does anyone know if there was anything altered around the fuel tank on the American Prado vs the AU version?

I am looking into getting an OEM 80L, interested in whether anyone could post some photos/measurements between the tank frame & other components.
Isn’t that a diesel tank?
 
Isn’t that a diesel tank?
Yes, but the Columbia market has an 80L petrol option. It should have the same mounting as the AU version & arguable should be the same as ours. Which is what I am trying to confirm—I know we can mount it, I found the tapped holes, I just want to get a better idea of how the undercarriage is structured.
 

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This is what we get in Middle East. My FE shows 80L ( Main Tank) +30 ( Sub Tank)
all you need to do is to change your tank with the raptor in the picture. you will end up 33 gallons
 
Thanks for bringing the conversation back to topic . This picture shows how narrow they run compared to other 12.5 width tires
See below for the discussion the Bronco forum
Wheel width is 8.5 so no problem there .
In terms of height they are just as tall as bfgoodrich k02s in the same size .
The main reason I chose them for lc is

1. Lightest 35s on the market even lighter than most 33s
2. Narrow contact patch allows for clearance with only a 1 inch front lift.

Ofcourse there are compromises as with everything else . They are soft and likely more prone to punctures, and hold gravel but I’m willing to live with that for onroad comfort at mpg improvements
How is your mpg? I'm considering these. Are they actually 52lbs? Do you mind measuring the actual length of the contact width of the tire?
 
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