"Certainly". If I were a betting man I'd probably not be so certain of that. The T24 engine is also not all that complicated outside a well-cooled and well-designed turbo. The hybrid system design is two decades old with fantastic reliability. My LC seldom surpasses 3500rpm and though I'm a pretty conservative driver in my old age, I don't sense the engine is working that hard. We shall see at 150k miles.
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Though I have a LC LC with premium pkg on order, I have to admit that I've always found the Yukon appealing. But I have a small family and could never really justify the size. If I had to choose between a 1958 trim and a Tahoe, I would definitely choose the Tahoe for more creature comfort, since I don't offroad. But between a loaded LC and a Tahoe, I would choose the more practically sized LC.
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We are empty-nest family, just my wife and I + our two dogs. I find the LC too small. Once we put dog crates in the cargo area, there simply is no space for luggage (unless we use the rear sits for that, which is not ideal).
Also, I am getting really tired of the small, noisy engine. I can live with off-road oriented suspension (I used to drive an FC Cruiser), but the noise level of the LC is just too annoying. And then there is the lack of storage space in the cabin.
Sounds like the Tahoe may be the right move for you, size wise then, especially considering your towing needs.
Have you considered a Sequoia?
Have you considered a Sequoia?
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Toyota completely missed the mark with the Sequoia.
1) Cargo space is about the same as much smaller Highlander
2) The V6 engine that self-destroys itself. Over 100k Tundras recalled and getting complete engine replacement. The Sequoia is not included because supposedly with hybrid you get yourself out of harms way when the engine fails in the middle of an interstate but it's pure BS. Toyota claims that the cause was a manufacturing issue that has been resolved, but 2024 and 2025 Tundras keep failing.
3) Ridiculously expensive, you get much more with a Tahoe for $20k less.
Bottom line, the Sequoia is a total failure that barely sells at 2000 units per month vs. 10,000 Tahoes + 8,000 Yukons.
Went to carsize.com to compare and see what the current Tahoe looks like.
Looks aren’t everything and definitely buy what works for you, but that Tahoe front end
Looks aren’t everything and definitely buy what works for you, but that Tahoe front end
With the rear axel control arms that low, Tahoe is more like a spring lifted minivan than SUV.
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After riding home in a Suburban for an uber the other day I get it. Don’t ask me how he was making any money, but I assume most of his pickups were larger groups & airport runs, while my quick downtown after work drinks run home was an anomaly. But. Wonderfully comfortable with space to spare, nicest ride I’ve had, I’d forgotten how good these are. It could well be the right tool for your use case. I do question the size for piloting one of these around if you live in a populated area.
Since you often have to carry two dog crates, Tahoe is the better choice for you. Though I personally prefer the front end of the Yukon. For us, we'll soon be empty nesters and we have no pets to carry around. My wife and I do plan to take some road trips in the LC, though. Hopefully the cargo area will be large enough for two people's luggage. I plan to lease it, so I won't be stuck with it for too long. We used to have a Dodge Durango, which was the perfect size for us when our kid was younger. Easier to drive/park than a Tahoe, but still long enough to carry a lot of cargo. But it was very thirsty (5.7L V8) and not the most reliable. And DCJR dealership service was horrendous. I agree with you that the Sequoia is not a good choice, because of the poorly-designed cargo area. Good luck with your choice!
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The last 3 vehicles I have owned have been Chevy Suburbans (all purchased used - 1st with 20K miles, 2nd with 68K, 3rd with 15K), and I am struggling due to the lack of space in the LC. Kept my first Suburban over 330K miles and with over 300K miles was driving 7.5 hrs to help son with remodeling project and never thought twice about its reliability. BUT, the last one only had 92K when the transmission failed. Was never happy with the way it drove after the rebuilt, then they had to turn off the indicator that swapped from 8 to 6 to 4 cyl and my mpg dropped from 21 to 15. BUT, I loved my suburban. Never used the back seat in the last one - folded them down and bought a weathertech mat to go all the way to the second row. Have hauled mulch, lumber, multiple dogs, and plants galore and almost anything you can think of. Went to LC trying to get to better gas milege and trying to downsize, but I will say a recent 8hr road trip one way, tested my endurance on the seats! Short drives they do not bother me - but considering I really wanted this to make trips out of state to do some off roading (not hard core) and see some scenic sights - not sure how well that is going to work.
Years ago I compared the Tahoe to the Suburban and the only advantage I found at that time, was the Tahoe would be easier to park. The new Z71 is nice though. The mpg and price were so similar, I couldn't justify going with the smaller ride at the time because we were always hauling something for ourselves or one kid or the other. Wish I could afford to have the LC for some uses and a suburban for others - but don't think that is going to happen!
MY mpg in the LC is going to have to improve for me to continue to give up all the power and space, but hopefully it is getting there!
Years ago I compared the Tahoe to the Suburban and the only advantage I found at that time, was the Tahoe would be easier to park. The new Z71 is nice though. The mpg and price were so similar, I couldn't justify going with the smaller ride at the time because we were always hauling something for ourselves or one kid or the other. Wish I could afford to have the LC for some uses and a suburban for others - but don't think that is going to happen!
MY mpg in the LC is going to have to improve for me to continue to give up all the power and space, but hopefully it is getting there!Toyota , Ford and GM have many recalls going on currently. I will say my 1958 cost more than the 2023 TRD off road 4runner and is honestly not as well built and just feels cheap
Get the Tahoe, you'll be happier with it. It does the things you want better than a LC. My only advice would be to check out the Ford Tahoe-competitive products. They are similar to the Tahoe and depending on your proclivity may suit your design tastes better. Unfortunately, GM doesn't offer a competitor to the LC. Ford does in the Bronco. Having considered LC, Bronco and Jeep, I favor the ride of the LC. It seems to be designed for off-roading with street ride comfort, but not in the same way that a tahoe is. I tend to agree though with the thinking that the LC can tow, but is not designed for towing.
To clarify my previous post , by cheap I mean the interior plastic
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We have several (8 to be exact) Ford Expeditions at work. They are all 4WD as we use them off-road every day (about 60 miles highway + 30 miles off-road drive per day). The reliability if terrible. 2-3 are always in the shop having something fixed, leaving only 5-6 available for work. Of these 5-6, half of them have either the check engine light on or "4WD malfunction" message on the screen but we have no choice but to keep driving them until one returns from the the shop as we need at least 5 for work. Funny enough, our "neighbors" who do the same commute every day use 4Runners as their fleet vehicles and these NEVER fail. We could probably save 50% of vehicle cost (initial purchase + maintenance + repairs) if we could buy 4Runners, but we have to "buy American" as most of our funding comes from the US Government, so buying Japanese is "unallowable" in government-speak terms.
I've had several fleet F-150s and I can't for the life of me figure out how they sell so many . Always have weird electrical gremlins. I must just be getting the lemon modeles
I worked for GM for a long time. The stuff they are making isn't much better these days. Used to be that the big trucks/SUVs were quality and the rest (except Corvette) were mediocre. Today, most are not particularly great. It's why I drive the LC. Also happen to think the LC styling is outstanding, and ride is quite good in nearly all circumstances. But, if you want a land yacht that rides like a couch on wheels that can tow a big boat or an RV, the Tahoe is hard to beat, until it breaks.
Even though this is a Land Cruiser forum, based on this thread it seems the Chevy Tahoe is clearly a superior vehicle.
It should have been obvious to me before I bought my LC. The Chevy Tahoe is legendary worldwide for its durability and ruggedness, which is why it’s the go to vehicle for the U.N. and NGO’s in war zones and developing countries. Oh wait …
It should have been obvious to me before I bought my LC. The Chevy Tahoe is legendary worldwide for its durability and ruggedness, which is why it’s the go to vehicle for the U.N. and NGO’s in war zones and developing countries. Oh wait …
No. No it won't
It seems like you made up your mind and maybe want confirmation of that from people who bought Land Cruisers. It definitely seems like you'll be happier in a truck like the Tahoe, but if you're the kind of person who is best suited for a Tahoe why the heck did you buy an LC250? These things cost a lot of money!
