HATING the 2026 LC Suspension - Very busy & unsettled - Anyone else feel this way on this year?

[Bad1975]

No idea, just heard about from my local Land Cruiser specialist shop when picking up my 80 series yesterday. Also said Bilstein and OME are partnered up as well with one another as a part of the whole process, so not sure what that means for those wanting Bilstein coilovers for anything that doesn't already exist on Toyotas?

 

[whyzee125]

No idea, just heard about from my local Land Cruiser specialist shop when picking up my 80 series yesterday. Also said Bilstein and OME are partnered up as well with one another as a part of the whole process, so not sure what that means for those wanting Bilstein coilovers for anything that doesn't already exist on Toyotas?

I would be very surprised if that's the case but I've been wrong before

 

[Blue Sky]

@Bad1975 do you stilll have your takeoffs handy?

If so, might be helpful to snap a photo quick? I am out of town but here is the best I can do:

Thinking if it’s either Bilstein/OME they should be clearly marked on the ‘26 LCs

 

[b407driver]

I would be very surprised if that's the case but I've been wrong before

We heard early on that the TrailHunter version of OME shocks were actually manufactured by Bilstein.

If all this is true about the LC's more recent suspension being manufactured by Bilstein instead of Tokico, it makes sense that certain '26 LC250s are riding more like the 6th Gen 4Runner, which is reported to be quite a stiff ride, to the point that many reviewers are mentioning it.

After 9 years on the TRD Pro (6112/5160) suspension, I don't miss that ride.

 

[Bad1975]

@Blue Sky my take offs are Tokico 2025, just like yours are marked.

 

[GR8Santini]

blkcctsent -
Not sure after reading 6 pages of what the OP wants from this post. I guess you wanted to know if anyone has had an unbalanced 2026 LC - if so speak up? The forum is pretty responsive & helpful if you provide info. You haven’t as I can see provided anything except you have 2026 Premium, and the dealer swapped tire/rims. So if I should be in your shoes I’d start with:
Are these OE rim/tires?
What size tire?
What brand/type tire?
What load & speed spec on your tire?
What air pressure by tire?
Have rims been checked for true (bent)?
What vehicle options?
What adds/mods?
Last road force wheel balance you had done?
Last 4 wheel alignment?
What specifically have you done to cure to date?

 

[RideWithYanu]

blkcctsent -
Not sure after reading 6 pages of what the OP wants from this post. I guess you wanted to know if anyone has had an unbalanced 2026 LC - if so speak up? The forum is pretty responsive & helpful if you provide info. You haven’t as I can see provided anything except you have 2026 Premium, and the dealer swapped tire/rims. So if I should be in your shoes I’d start with:
Are these OE rim/tires?
What size tire?
What brand/type tire?
What load & speed spec on your tire?
What air pressure by tire?
Have rims been checked for true (bent)?
What vehicle options?
What adds/mods?
Last road force wheel balance you had done?
Last 4 wheel alignment?
What specifically have you done to cure to date?

They’ve explained pretty well here and in other threads what their situation and complaint is.

Welcome to the forums.

 

[Farrell48]

@Bad1975 do you stilll have your takeoffs handy?

If so, might be helpful to snap a photo quick? I am out of town but here is the best I can do:
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Thinking if it’s either Bilstein/OME they should be clearly marked on the ‘26 LCs

Thanks for the pics. Looks like your shocks are marked 48510-60560 which is what the documents call for mine are marked 48510-60591. I wonder if some of us got the wrong shocks installed? Anyone out there have 48510-60591 and have a decent dampening over bumps? Mine shudders like 3 to 5 times over every bump big or small and it is frustrating.

 

[Sugarloafer80]

Bilstein German. never been impressed with them. Always harsh at the beginnings of travel. I would think Tokico and KYB would be the brands the Japanese would use on their vehicles. What we need are Ohlins....the best.

In the big picture, shocks are a consummable. When some one finds the magic set, easy enough to change. I never expected a luxury car ride....my 2025 once it gets past that low speed stuff where all the unsprung weight is the enemy, has been surprisingly pleasant......but I think I understand the complaint driving in city beat up roads or low speed crappy loads, the jounce is insufficient. In English they push down harder than they rebound. Stiffening up rebound would greatly dampen the low speed movements of all that unsprung weight.

 

[Bad1975]

@Farrell48 are both front shocks the same number?

48510-60591: is listed for these destinations LHD EU: (ARL,GCC,GEN,RUS,SA)

48510-60560: is listed for these regions, A, R, U (I would assume U is for United States?)

There are 5 different part numbers including two for a special package, looks to be NATO/Military/Industrial use type support requirements possibly?

I can definitely see shock valving being different based upon region being shipped to and quality of roads not to mention different engine configurations and therefore weight over the front end, wonder if Toyota ran out of stock and started substituting? The rears are all the same no matter destination unless configured for Egypt/Special package.

Based on this if it were me and the difference is that profound I'd ask Toyota to swap in the correct configuration parts or prove the valving is the same, taking it all the way to corporate/brand engagement if need be. May be a good idea to file a safety concern with NHTSA as well due the weight differences in engine configurations and possible valving differences will have an impact on handling and braking.

https://partsouq.com/en/catalog/genuine/diagram?c=TOYOTA00&ssd=$*KwFQZHVbIy0XUxEhBlByQggcPDslVFtWV0VqWREXJConLho5S0ZfIldcUFNTUl8DARwcFQ0BIhhGD08XE0AzJTcjLkZKGVZKQFlGUlpSVl8LFwVADgdHWEEwLHoHHFIvSSIsOSU8bRcFQAUNAUBZV1UXF18BQV5HW1dUMRlIAAAAANCqYZ4=$&vid=0&number=4851069845&srsltid=AfmBOoou83CqrbUG1xJLKeux-P9vzRaZTsNfEVw7-h6LwnqfrVYB50Gq

 

[Farrell48]

@Farrell48 are both front shocks the same number?

48510-60591: is listed for these destinations LHD EU: (ARL,GCC,GEN,RUS,SA)

48510-60560: is listed for these regions, A, R, U (I would assume U is for United States?)

There are 5 different part numbers including two for a special package, looks to be NATO/Military/Industrial use type support requirements possibly?

I can definitely see shock valving being different based upon region being shipped to and quality of roads not to mention different engine configurations and therefore weight over the front end, wonder if Toyota ran out of stock and started substituting? The rears are all the same no matter destination unless configured for Egypt/Special package.

Based on this if it were me and the difference is that profound I'd ask Toyota to swap in the correct configuration parts or prove the valving is the same, taking it all the way to corporate/brand engagement if need be. May be a good idea to file a safety concern with NHTSA as well due the weight differences in engine configurations and possible valving differences will have an impact on handling and braking.

https://partsouq.com/en/catalog/genuine/diagram?c=TOYOTA00&ssd=$*KwFQZHVbIy0XUxEhBlByQggcPDslVFtWV0VqWREXJConLho5S0ZfIldcUFNTUl8DARwcFQ0BIhhGD08XE0AzJTcjLkZKGVZKQFlGUlpSVl8LFwVADgdHWEEwLHoHHFIvSSIsOSU8bRcFQAUNAUBZV1UXF18BQV5HW1dUMRlIAAAAANCqYZ4=$&vid=0&number=4851069845&srsltid=AfmBOoou83CqrbUG1xJLKeux-P9vzRaZTsNfEVw7-h6LwnqfrVYB50Gq

Thanks for the info. Both shocks are marked 48510-60591.

 

[GR8Santini]

Thanks for the info. Both shocks are marked 48510-60591.

Interested in what Toyota consumer affairs said/offered in conversation to date. Got them involved a few years ago on a new Sequoia Monroney equipment discrepancy and they were pretty fast to get a technical service manager involved to investigate & resolve. Mind sharing how they’ve reacted & what’s been done?

 

[DubDub]

No idea, just heard about from my local Land Cruiser specialist shop when picking up my 80 series yesterday. Also said Bilstein and OME are partnered up as well with one another as a part of the whole process, so not sure what that means for those wanting Bilstein coilovers for anything that doesn't already exist on Toyotas?

Is there anything showing bilstein and ARB/OME partnered up? I’m genuinely curious about this concept after hearing it mentioned once before in this forum. I asked then too, no answer. I am aware of Fox and ARB/OME doing some collaboration IRT UCAs and geometries between the TH and Pro, but have never found a shred of evidence showing ARB and Bilstein collaborating.

 

[Bad1975]

@DubDub nothing official I could find. I have no reason to doubt what the Land Cruiser shop near me said, they've been around for longtime and are well known in the PNW and west coast among Land Cruiser addicts usual wait time for work is 3 months and they have six lift bays. They always have a slew of 40,60,80,100 and 200s being worked on as well as quite a bit of import unicorns, its right near the base so I drive by it quite often.

I'm not a fan of either company, their OEM style offerings (Monotube shocks) are worse than OEM in my experience, I'd pick Bilstein over OME though.

 

[ultane]

Thanks for the pics. Looks like your shocks are marked 48510-60560 which is what the documents call for mine are marked 48510-60591. I wonder if some of us got the wrong shocks installed? Anyone out there have 48510-60591 and have a decent dampening over bumps? Mine shudders like 3 to 5 times over every bump big or small and it is frustrating.

Welcome to the asylum.

 

[GR8Santini]

Pretty incredible research this forum comes up with- nice job!

I’ve been really impressed over the years w/ Bilstein on cars & trucks we’ve owned. Find them like a premium grade over OE & rancho-level crap in the replacement world. I’ve found ride is soft on OE Hitachi shock/struts & give poor longevity on heavy vehicles. Got 150K tough miles on the cheapest Bilsteins on my 300k mile 1997 F250HD 7.3L - 1/2 those miles pulling a gooseneck. Still controlling that truck suspension very well. Had a 2014 GX460 that Bilsteins totally tamed the saggy feeling suspension - the brake dive was ridiculous until we got Bilsteins on it. .

Currently have a 3rd gen Tundra & a Sequoia w/ TRD Off Road packages. A big part of the package is the Bilsteins which I wouldn’t have purchased either vehicle without that pkg. The OE Hitachi’s are weak, but Bilsteins really tame those vehicles in lean, brake dive & ride, long distance driving & towing & give a lot of confidence. At some point I’d like to put them on our ‘26 LC, but I’m one of the minority that likes the Premium ride - especially after a preload Westcott lift.

Be cool if we find out there already on there!

 

[Sugarloafer80]

@Farrell48 are both front shocks the same number?

48510-60591: is listed for these destinations LHD EU: (ARL,GCC,GEN,RUS,SA)

48510-60560: is listed for these regions, A, R, U (I would assume U is for United States?)

There are 5 different part numbers including two for a special package, looks to be NATO/Military/Industrial use type support requirements possibly?

I can definitely see shock valving being different based upon region being shipped to and quality of roads not to mention different engine configurations and therefore weight over the front end, wonder if Toyota ran out of stock and started substituting? The rears are all the same no matter destination unless configured for Egypt/Special package.

Based on this if it were me and the difference is that profound I'd ask Toyota to swap in the correct configuration parts or prove the valving is the same, taking it all the way to corporate/brand engagement if need be. May be a good idea to file a safety concern with NHTSA as well due the weight differences in engine configurations and possible valving differences will have an impact on handling and braking.

https://partsouq.com/en/catalog/genuine/diagram?c=TOYOTA00&ssd=$*KwFQZHVbIy0XUxEhBlByQggcPDslVFtWV0VqWREXJConLho5S0ZfIldcUFNTUl8DARwcFQ0BIhhGD08XE0AzJTcjLkZKGVZKQFlGUlpSVl8LFwVADgdHWEEwLHoHHFIvSSIsOSU8bRcFQAUNAUBZV1UXF18BQV5HW1dUMRlIAAAAANCqYZ4=$&vid=0&number=4851069845&srsltid=AfmBOoou83CqrbUG1xJLKeux-P9vzRaZTsNfEVw7-h6LwnqfrVYB50Gq

Bringing in NHTSA to a comfort issue is a bit silly, no? ZERO safety issue here.

Lasting forever and providing quality ride are 2 entirely different concepts. Surprised no one has opened a discussion about products with 2 way adjustability.

 

[DubDub]

@DubDub nothing official I could find. I have no reason to doubt what the Land Cruiser shop near me said, they've been around for longtime and are well known in the PNW and west coast among Land Cruiser addicts

I’m not doubting you as much as hoping you had seen something. I’ve heard mention of this a couple of times now. Smoke means fire kind of thing.

I sure miss the view up there. I loved coming down to the sound from my house in Port Orchard and basically driving the coast all the way to work at PSNS.

 

[wpage]

Thinking about the old Gabriel Hijacker air shocks. For folks who wanted to air up or down, like tires for certain ride options...

Like mattress shopping, different strokes for folks.

 

[Yousef]

Mine are 48510-60570 fronts and 48530-60600 rears and it's a diesel model which may have different shocks than petrol models due to the heavier diesel engine on the front.
The car rides pretty good on pavement and excellent offroad .