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  • Ultra Lightweight & Effective – This 10-piece Anti-Skid Tire Chain Set provides anti-skid and anti-slide traction, helping vehicles escape stuck positions in emergencies. Compatible with tire sizes from 175 to 295. Must be used at speeds below 40km/h (25mph).
  • Nylon Material – Made with high mechanical strength and a high softening point for excellent shock absorption and reduced noise. Textured straps ensure a strong grip in snow, mud, or sand while avoiding dry pavement or uncovered flat ground.
  • Safe for Aluminum Rims & Tires – Featuring a special one-piece and zip-latch design, these mud chains are firm yet metal-free, preventing scratches or damage to rims and tires.
  • Multi-Functional Design – Doubles as a traction rope, survival rope, or wrapping rope, making it an essential for car and motorcycle road trips. Dual directional cleats with a double-tiered design provide superior traction in snow, ice, and mud.
  • Easy to Use & Compact – Lightweight, space-saving, and easy to store in your vehicle. Safe for standard tires with no damage. For emergency use only – Remove after getting unstuck and drive at low speeds while in use.
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Man it is clear 90% of people commenting here never used/needed chains... You don't need chains for snow, you need it for ice (or snow packed into ice). Try going down a steep hill with non-studded tires without chains and see what happens.
Seriously, why are they even expressing an opinion? Almost every cars manual says no chains, it doesn't mean you can't do it, just that it isn't recommended. And if you are actually on a road where you need chains, you don't give a shit what your manual says.

If you don't know what you're talking about and you've never used chains, maybe sit this one out
 
The driver of that Genesis was going to wear theirs out, and not even benefit from enhanced traction. There wasn’t enough snow or ice to warrant them being on the tires.

Plus the dimwit who was driving the car put the snow socks on the front wheels of a rear wheel drive car.

The Texas plate was icing on the cake of amusement for me.
Genesis G70 comes in AWD as well, I don't know what the Genesis specifically states in regards to the AWD system but on some vehicles if you only have one set it can be advised to put them on the front for better steering control of your vehicle although all 4 would be better. I'm not familiar enough with that car to know which would be better.
 
Will the Highway Patrol accept “my manual says chains cannot be mounted”?

It’s been 20 years since I lived in CA and drove up to the Sierras, but I thought the signs said Chains or Snow Tires.
Yeah they’ll accept it, and you’ll have to turn around.
 
Genesis G70 comes in AWD as well, I don't know what the Genesis specifically states in regards to the AWD system but on some vehicles if you only have one set it can be advised to put them on the front for better steering control of your vehicle although all 4 would be better. I'm not familiar enough with that car to know which would be better.

G70’s that are AWD are badged as such. That one wasn’t AWD.
 
That’s the sort of person they are. Real lovely type.

Understood. I almost didn’t respond to their message when I saw their location. I’m actually surprised they’re on this forum. I didn’t think buying a Japanese vehicle was allowed, especially one built in Japan. :)
 
I used auto socks last winter going up to Tahoe but I think it was overkill given I have all terrain M+S 3 peak tires. Nonetheless, with the socks it did exceptional going up and down 50.

I just watched a couple of videos on snow socks and was shocked that they actually outperformed the chains in many respects. I want to see them tested on icy roads after a rain/hard freeze event! Chains could get ugly here and in northern New England, this is typically our most traction limited driving scenario...the stuff where the sanders need to back up the hill......
 
I don’t have chains nor would I plan on using chains no matter what the vehicle unless for recovery. I can see where some people would want chains, especially if they have AT tires like the OP. Logging roads here don’t close, neither do the lakes. I have seen people with chains on logging roads but they didn’t have dedicated winter tires, just AT’s. Some people will use them on the lakes when the snow gets deeper, they work great for that and even with winter tires you won’t follow a truck with chains on the ice in deep snow. The majority of vehicles I see with chains are logging trucks and fuel delivery on logging roads exclusively and occasionally plow trucks on public roads or personal plow trucks.View attachment 50565
That's the stuff I was talkin about. Sheer exhileration!!!! My 2 left tires would be looking for that little bit of grip!!! Riverside Drive up to Sandy River Circle and my driveway at Sugarloaf have looked that way MANY times...hip breaking conditions!!!!
 
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These don't work. Tyre tests guy on YouTube tested them out and showed they literally do nothing.
Maybe, chains do not help much either when one breaks loose and starts destroying your wheel wells and fenders.
 
Man it is clear 90% of people commenting here never used/needed chains... You don't need chains for snow, you need it for ice (or snow packed into ice). Try going down a steep hill with non-studded tires without chains and see what happens.
I didn’t comment earlier since I don’t own a Land Cruiser 250, but in my opinion, snow chains are essential for any car.

On some mountain roads, they’re required by law — not just in the trunk, but fitted on the wheels. Police may even check, especially when descending, which is often the trickiest part.

On packed snow and ice, chains grip far better than studded tires, though they limit you to about 50 km/h. Studded tires are limited by law at 80 km/h anyway, offer less traction on dry and are banned on some highways/countires. Studded tires are a must in artic condition, like Norway, speed is reduced in winter due to icy road and polar night.

Secret tip, here in Switzerland, on muddy forest tracks I use snow chains. They provide better traction than even the most aggressive mud tires may dream. And I always use snow chains with season-appropriate tires: summer tires in summer, winter tires in winter.
 
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I didn’t comment earlier since I don’t own a Land Cruiser 250, but in my opinion, snow chains are essential for any car.

On some mountain roads, they’re required by law — not just in the trunk, but fitted on the wheels. Police may even check, especially when descending, which is often the trickiest part.

On packed snow and ice, chains grip far better than studded tires, though they limit you to about 50 km/h. Studded tires are limited by law at 80 km/h anyway, offer less traction on dry and are banned on some highways. Studded tires are a must in artic condition, like Norway, speed is reduced in winter due to icy road and polar night. In the other hand studded tire are banned in certain countries.

Secret tip, here in Switzerland, on forest tracks, chains provide better traction than even the most aggressive mud tires may dream. And I always use snow chains with season-appropriate tires: summer tires in summer, winter tires in winter.
Yep, most of these comments are talking about going to popular places like Lake Tahoe or ski resorts that are going to be very well maintained roads that you likely don't need snow chains. There are parts of the country you do need them.
 
Yep, most of these comments are talking about going to popular places like Lake Tahoe or ski resorts that are going to be very well maintained roads that you likely don't need snow chains. There are parts of the country you do need them.

I often travel between Switzerland, Italy, France, and Austria during the off-season, taking routes over 2,500-metre passes, 1,700-metre tunnels, or via piggyback transport. Roads are usually clear, except during heavy snowfall, when services can be overwhelmed.
I always carry snow chains, mountain gear, and provisions. This Easter, a massive avalanche blocked the Great Saint Bernard Tunnel, leaving us trapped overnight. In Italy, official support was limited, but fellow road users showed remarkable solidarity. Cars living Italy are usually full of red wine, cheese, parma ham and bread.
 
For those of us that need real chains for non-joyride situations. These may be an option.


All in all though, I don’t think it would be an issue to put on regular chains on the tires as long as you know how to properly install them. If clearance is an issue, they can be installed to the rear wheels (which is better for going down hill anyways).

In my opinion, the language in the manual is for Toyota to not take any responsibility if someone installs chains incorrectly and they come off and cause an accident (for example by damaging the brake line).

I find it funny that discussions around chains always come to trips to ski resorts in parts of the country that get close to no snow outside of mountains. And when you go these places during a snowstorm, sides of the roads are littered with blown tire chains and incapacitated cars with chain’s rapped around the axel.
 
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Maybe, chains do not help much either when one breaks loose and starts destroying your wheel wells and fenders.
Spoken like someone who's never used or installed chains. I use them every year. Never had a vehicle damaged and appreciated the specific scenarios where they're called for.

These zip ties don't do anything.
 
For those of us that need real chains for non-joyride situations. These may be an option.


All in all though, I don’t think it would be an issue to put on regular chains on the tires as long as you know how to properly install them. If clearance is an issue, they can be installed to the rear wheels (which is better for going down hill anyways).

In my opinion, the language in the manual is for Toyota to not take any responsibility if someone installs chains incorrectly and they come off and cause an accident (for example by damaging the brake line).

I find it funny that discussions around chains always come to trips to ski resorts in parts of the country that get close to no snow outside of mountains. And when you go these places during a snowstorm, sides of the roads are littered with blown tire chains and incapacitated cars with chain’s rapped around the axel.

This is why tons of manufacturers recommend against chains. They don’t want to be responsible if the chains the consumer chooses, installs, and operate the vehicle with damage the vehicle or cause some other issue.
 
This is why tons of manufacturers recommend against chains. They don’t want to be responsible if the chains the consumer chooses, installs, and operate the vehicle with damage the vehicle or cause some other issue.
Yeah especially since people operate than at speeds and conditions that they are not meant to be used. They should ideally be used <20 MPH on snow or ice covered roads. Maybe 30 MPH would be fine if it is deep snow. They are not meant to be used on roads with patchy snow/ice cover or slush.

Last year I saw someone doing 50 MPH with chains, on a completely cleared road. I cannot even comprehend this considering even at 30 MPH chains will be insanely loud. Doing something like this is extremely dangerous, if (or more like when) a chain brakes in a situation like this, it can wrap around and lock the wheel, causing a roll over.
 
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From the Caltrans website: There are Three Levels of Chain Requirements in California:
  • Requirement 1 (R-1): Chains are required on all vehicles except passenger vehicles and light-duty trucks under 6,000 pounds gross weight and equipped with snow tires on at least two drive wheels. Chains must be carried by vehicles using snow tires. All vehicles towing trailers must have chains on one drive axle. Trailers with brakes must have chains on at least one axle.
  • Requirement 2 (R2): Chains or traction devices are required on all vehicles except four-wheel/all-wheel drive vehicles with snow-tread tires on all four wheels.
    NOTE: (Four-wheel/all-wheel drive vehicles must carry traction devices in chain control areas.)
  • Requirement 3 (R3): Chains or traction devices are required on all vehicles, no exceptions.
R-1 and R-2 are the most common conditions. A highway will often be closed before an R-3 condition is imposed.

Chain restrictions can be found on their website map when winter comes: QuickMap

I typically navigated these California winter roads on ski trips in my old 4Runner with BFG KO2 mud & snow tires, and carried chains but never used them.

You will be fine in your KO3s ..carry a set of chains, socks, or whatever for Highway Patrol, and hopefully will not have to use them.
 
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Yeah especially since people operate than at speeds and conditions that they are not meant to be used. They should ideally be used <20 MPH on snow or ice covered roads. Maybe 30 MPH would be fine if it is deep snow. They are not meant to be used on roads with patchy snow/ice cover or slush.

Last year I saw someone doing 50 MPH with chains, on a completely cleared road. I cannot even comprehend this considering even at 30 MPH chains will be insanely loud. Doing something like this is extremely dangerous, if (or more like when) a chain brakes in a situation like this, it can wrap around and lock the wheel, causing a roll over.

50 mph on chains?

This is a terrible idea.

They have their place and valid uses, but are pretty specialized equipment and most I have seen being used by the general public (rare) haven’t been used or often even tested installed very well.

No one is putting the damn things on taking their time in the garage because you don’t leave them on. So it’s on the side of the road or in a cold parking lot, in the snow and slush, freezing your ass off working as quickly as possible. For bonus points do it in the dark with the flashlight on your phone as your only light source.

I’ve also had the pleasure of putting chains on a Humvee in the mud a few times. That’s really fun. Nothing like getting yourself covered in cold wet muck a few hours into a multi day field opp. Remember in the USMC if it ain’t raining we ain’t training. LOL.
 
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