LC 250 Hate = It’s REAL

[Esquire]

There might be some misgivings about the interior being all black and mostly plastic. Not by me - I see that Toyota is using durable, easy to clean materials there, and the plastic is of high quality. I had a Tahoe before, and while I liked it a lot overall, the plastic quality was inferior to what I have in this LC.

Also, to my eyes as very “lux” interiors with lots of over the top wood and leather begin to age, they look a little ridiculous. I’m fine with what this car has.

I personally prefer having all black interiors for the long term. While I like the look of lighter interiors on the showroom floor, you cannot keep them looking new and sharp no matter what you use to clean them.

Agreed, the wood elements in vehicles have been overdone, date quickly, and are reminiscent of a monthly payment furniture store.

 

[RideWithYanu]

I personally prefer having all black interiors for the long term. While I like the look of lighter interiors on the showroom floor, you cannot keep them looking new and sharp no matter what you use to clean them.

Agreed, the wood elements in vehicles have been overdone, date quickly, and are reminiscent of a monthly payment furniture store.

Agreed on both points.

 

[URJ200]

My goodness, if they don't like the new LC because of the "cheap" fit and finish, they would have absolutely hated the original! Some folks just don't get the Land Cruiser mentality.

I haven’t heard anything about fit and finish, but more so overall cheap feel, but you may be correct bc I did see those threads in this forum complaining about the paint quality.

But I have to ask this about your statement…. You say the original had a cheap fit and finish. Is that the reason that they’re still so many road worthy FJ40s?

 

[RideWithYanu]

I haven’t heard anything about fit and finish, but more so overall cheap feel, but you may be correct bc I did see those threads in this forum complaining about the paint quality.

But I have to ask this about your statement…. You say the original had a cheap fit and finish. Is that the reason that they’re still so many road worthy FJ40s?

I think they’re referring to the choice of utilitarian versus luxury interior finishing materials. Those accustomed to the luxury found on the recent station wagon land cruisers might be disappointed in what they find in the Prado or heavy duty Land Cruisers. These same people would find no luxury treatment on the interiors of the original FJ40. Another example of how the core Land Cruiser variant (Prado) is a return to the original.

I think your point is more on the durability of the materials of the original - and I would agree that the station wagons and heavy duty variants have historically done somewhat better than the prados (though it’s a very high bar).

 

[Sugarloafer80]

Only thing missingthat was on the last Gen (LC200) is real fake wood. That is becoming passe anyway

 

[Esquire]

Only thing missing from last Gen is real fake wood. That is becoming passe anyway

The L200 was full of genuine real almost looks real fake wood.

 

[ChuckA1]

I haven’t heard anything about fit and finish, but more so overall cheap feel, but you may be correct bc I did see those threads in this forum complaining about the paint quality.

But I have to ask this about your statement…. You say the original had a cheap fit and finish. Is that the reason that they’re still so many road worthy FJ40s?

You misunderstood my meaning. The original FJ's were very short on luxury, that is all I meant.

 

[Sugarloafer80]

I personally prefer having all black interiors for the long term. While I like the look of lighter interiors on the showroom floor, you cannot keep them looking new and sharp no matter what you use to clean them.

Agreed, the wood elements in vehicles have been overdone, date quickly, and are reminiscent of a monthly payment furniture store.

HMMM, I had 5 year old Ivory seating on an RRS that still looked mint.....just wiped down with assorted products over the years. ...no filthy jeans etc....

Any Toyota I had rented or been in in the past would never qualify as luxury or high end. It was always utlitiarian, reliable, functional neglect proof basically. LC250 , IMHO goes beyond those descriptors that date back to the 1980s even comparing a Honda Accord to an old Camry.....

Social media esp all the You Tubers looking for "hits and subscribers" will say any crap necessary to keep going. Car Care Nut, Cammisa, the list is endless, etc, frankly most of them, don't get subscribers by being positive, they get them by negativity......haters love having their mindset confirmed....they are all legends in their own minds...I watch most of the stuff for amusement and rarely for true facrts (left the typo...potential new word). There are a few true information sources out there like the Motor Oil Geek etc and a few of the detail product testers. It is most useful to me when looking for how to do something. So the hate is BS, generated by AI, idiots and all assortment of losers. Did I miss anyone????

 

[BigSherm]

Just to add to these multiple pages of comments. First of all, I own a LC250 First Edition. I recently owned a 2019 4Runner Limited. So far I like it and that it offers.

I am in my late 40 year old bracket with family and kids

My primary driving is on concrete not rocks. And will probably never have time to add a lift to my vehicle to descend the Grand Canyon, and purchase a 100k more items to make my vehicle more advance combat Mother Nature.

Which made me then think about where these negative reviews are coming from most likely

Single male or females or whatever's you call them most likely these negative reviewers don’t have
Full families of their own- you tube is there job-
Hours are decided by them,
If there YouTube job or review auto type job is for off road vehicles then they will just compare those features and automatically give the the LC250 bad comments compared to off road vehicles made for off roading.

We have to remember ourselves this car more of a cross over before anything else and people don’t want to admit it.

All positive reviews I have seen are always from somewhat more overall car reviewers that does more generalized autos and a bit older.

So does a 22 year old person that relies on you tube for income going to review a 70k vehicle well? Probably not, especially when they have been driving there used 1990 LC or 4Runner and they think it’s the best car in the world because they can go off roading in it. Well this person has to understand that change is coming. Not only to your review strategy but to the brand as well

 

[CerberusSasha]

I'm new to the forum and land cruisers. Having just bought a brand new 2026 last week, I must disagree with one of the main points of the original post in this thread, LCs not holding their value. I was shopping for a couple of months and, at least in my area, a 2024 used Land Cruiser is advertised for maybe 5% cheaper than a new 2026 model. The used ones don't seem to sit on the lots much longer than new ones either, which tells me the dealers are probably getting pretty close to those numbers when they sell them
So it seems that these things are definitely holding their value a year after this thread was started.

 

[Shorty]

It’s too funny it doesn’t matter where you come from the grass seems greener on the other side. People here wish they had a petrol version of the LC250 - these people are mainly city dwellers who don’t venture to remote regions where petrol isn’t readily available, we have heaps of diesel mechanics for recreational vehicles so no issue in my books. The only real gripe and just a small one going from the old Prado(150) they could have improved the output of the diesel engine (this is a proven engine but the 250 is heavier than the previous model) little bit for towing.

 

[flyingtrotter]

Mmmmm - having sold an LC recently not able to agree with your core proposition at least in the UK #cerberus

 

[Esquire]

I'm new to the forum and land cruisers. Having just bought a brand new 2026 last week, I must disagree with one of the main points of the original post in this thread, LCs not holding their value. I was shopping for a couple of months and, at least in my area, a 2024 used Land Cruiser is advertised for maybe 5% cheaper than a new 2026 model. The used ones don't seem to sit on the lots much longer than new ones either, which tells me the dealers are probably getting pretty close to those numbers when they sell them
So it seems that these things are definitely holding their value a year after this thread was started.

I agree. The LC250's have held their value very well. A nicely equipped and lower mileage 2024 is across the board around $65k used. And they are selling as quickly as an expensive vehicle sells.

This is one of the many reasons I went with a Land Cruiser....arguably the best resale value of any SUV or car on the market.

 

[CerberusSasha]

Mmmmm - having sold an LC recently not able to agree with your core proposition at least in the UK #cerberus

It might not be the same across the world, especially since they never stopped selling the LC in many parts of the world, but it's definitely this way in the southwestern United States.

 

[APIOQM]

In Canada they’re holding quite well. I see 2024 1958s with 30,000 km selling around MSRP, some even have a premium. I think it all comes down to availability up here.

 

[Jack_]

In Canada they’re holding quite well. I see 2024 1958s with 30,000 km selling around MSRP, some even have a premium. I think it all comes down to availability up here.

That's the status quo where I am in the middle north American market. I can't buy my premium fuel without inquiries most days. The locals want to know more about this dark and boxy newcomer.

 

[Voyager101]

In Canada they’re holding quite well. I see 2024 1958s with 30,000 km selling around MSRP, some even have a premium. I think it all comes down to availability up here.

Good to know, thanks! I have 33,000 kms on my 2025 Premium and hope to add another zero to that before I'm done!

 

[back2lumby]

99% of those comments are losers who will never be able to afford one

 

[RCFTE]

99% of those comments are losers who will never be able to afford one

AGREE 100 PERCENT !

 

[Bucky Badger]

Give it another year or so ... You got some gear heads that all they can mumble is "it should have a V8" or "I would never have a hybrid", blah blah blah. Not one has probably driven the new LC nor done any research to back up their "claims". FACT= I trust Toyota over any other brand out there and Ive had them all. Do you really think that Toyota is going to do anything to tarnish the almost 70 years of Land Cruiser heritage they've built up by cutting corners on this model? Nope. This vehicle is overbuilt and solid. I love the fact that it is currently quite unique and you don't see many (at least here in Wisconsin. Ive seen one in the past 3 months). But more importantly Land Cruisers owners don't have to justify their choice of vehicle to the non-believers- we have done the research and are confident this model is the best yet!