Engine Recalled

[ultane]

I would read through this entire thread.

Hearing a rattle noise at low gear acceleration.

Is anyone hearing a rattle noise at low gear acceleration?? It disappears going into 2nd gear or +25mph.

www.landcruiserforum.com

If you plan on keeping the LC longer than than warranty period. I would have the oil analyzed by Blackstone and look for high levels a metal. Especially aluminum.

Always be informed on the lemon laws in your state and time limits for claims.

SPEEDiagnostics is an awesome company. Very fast turnaround time, versus Blackstone’s several week turnaround time.

 

[ultane]

Unrelated motor, unrelated vehicle.

Same company..

 

[Vision83]

Yea, it’s also the reason I may never buy a sequoia.

Also the Sequoia was never included in the recall, even though there has been documented cases of the same engine failure. All Sequoia’s are hybrids.

I think alot of people are missing the point and truly don’t see how Toyota is handing all of this. They are minimizing their losses and quietly trying to fix things behinds the scenes. They are a large faceless corporation ran by attorneys now… and the law suits are already in progress.

Think about all the first year GX 550 owners… their resell value just vanished overnight and many of them were under the impression this was fixed before purchasing.

The 2.4 hybrid is not in clear yet and we have documented failures. Also being a hybrid and being able to still have a mode of power after engine loss Toyota may never recall these if there is an issue.

I think we will see a redesign to both the 3.4 and 2.4 truck/suv variants. It will take Toyota years to react to this (they move extremely slow).. early adopters will be the ones punished just like current 2024 GX owners…

 

[ultane]

Toyota’s official story is manufacturing process defect left debris there in the engine. So whether T24A is good design or not is of less relevance. I would be more interested to know how many process and machinery are shared between these two engines in their factory.

YOUR T24A engine was made in Japan..

 

[Vision83]

Also since Toyota/Lexus read these forums daily. Here is a piece of advice Lexus/Toyota, This is how you used to handle recall issues… hiding behind a press release late on a Thursday reminds me of the US government.

I truly hope you get your mojo back. Many of us actually want a reliable vehicle.

 

[RideWithYanu]

There’s no way Toyota has reps on this site daily (I’d be surprised if rarely).

 

[Marinna]

View attachment 52116
This is from the Alabama Plants website, No mention of the Land Cruiser or 4Runner in there. (and those are two vechiles engines you would def brag about making) The LC and 4R engine is made in Japan. Unless they ship these engines ALLLLL the way across the ocean from Alabama to Japan... lol which I highly doubt, Even then I'm sure the window sticker would have to reflect using USA made parts. which it doesn't. Instead it says 100% Made in Japan Using Japan Parts for the engine etc.

The first year of Land Cruiser 250 is 2024. This is the 2023 list. But I am still curious what source do you have to indicate that the engine on LC is made in Japan?

As of the part shipping, this happens all the time. Company made part in country A, ship to country B for assembly, and then ship back to country A to sell the entire product. I see that kind of behavior everywhere.

 

[Noctilucent]

The first year of Land Cruiser 250 is 2024. This is the 2023 list. But I am still curious what source do you have to indicate that the engine on LC is made in Japan?

As of the part shipping, this happens all the time. Company made part in country A, ship to country B for assembly, and then ship back to country A to sell the entire product. I see that kind of behavior everywhere.

Do you have proof it's not made in Japan? Please share. Because My proof is the sticker 100% made in Japan. That and the fact that Alabama does NOT state it makes Land Cruiser Engines or 4Runner Engines instead it mentions the non Japan made toyota vechiles. That's all I got. (someone here could Check the engine serial tag or casting that prob says where it was made according to chatgpt)

 

[Marinna]

Do you have proof it's not made in Japan? Please share. Because My proof is the sticker 100% made in Japan. That and the fact that Alabama does NOT state it makes Land Cruiser Engines or 4Runner Engines instead it mentions the non Japan made toyota vechiles. That's all I got.

Where can I find the sticker on Land Cruiser says the car is 100% made in Japan? I have never heard of such a thing. Please show me. I would love to see a concrete proof that my engine is NOT made in Alabama. That would make me feel better.

I do not have definitive proof every engine on LC is made in Alabama. That is a trade secret that they will likely never tell. All I am showing you is that Toyota officially says in 2023 they made a bunch of engines, including T24A on Highlander, in that factory.

 

[Noctilucent]

Where can I find the sticker on Land Cruiser says the car is 100% made in Japan? I have never heard of such a thing. Please show me. I would love to see a concrete proof that my engine is NOT made in Alabama. That would make me feel better.

I do not have definitive proof every engine on LC is made in Alabama. That is a trade secret that they will likely never tell. All I am showing you is that Toyota officially says in 2023 they made a bunch of engines, including T24A on Highlander, in that factory.

When you bought your LC it had a sticker on the window stating 100% made in Japan, this is a typical sticker on a Land Cruiser window, this goes on every single Land Cruiser sold

 

[RideWithYanu]

All current series Land Cruisers are made at either the Tahara or Hino plants on Japan. Toyota has multiple press releases which state this.

 

[RideWithYanu]

I would love to see a concrete proof that my engine is NOT made in Alabama. That would make me feel better.

Lookup your vin and confirm in 30 seconds.

 

[Marinna]

When you bought your LC it had a sticker on the window stating 100% made in Japan View attachment 52127

Never see this sticker when I bought mine. But good information.

I am still surprised as I was working with Denso on Toyota’s ADAS and my understanding is they do not have local supply chain. I guess this covers mainly engine and transmission.

 

[Vision83]

I would love to see a concrete proof that my engine is NOT made in Alabama. That would make me feel better.

All GX 550’s have the same 100% Japan sticker. Also they are exclusively made in the Tahara plant. (Which is considered the best)

Approximately
3,800 model year 2024 Lexus GX 550 vehicles are involved in a recent engine recall in the U.S.

The engine being built in the US or Japan means very little based on the current recall.

 

[Vision83]

Also that 100% Japan sticker should be taken a face value… no vehicle these days are 100% any country.

 

[BlueCruiser]

I think even the recalled Tundra engine so far everybody still called its design a master piece, I personally have never seen any single opinion challenging that.

Toyota’s official story is manufacturing process defect left debris there in the engine. So whether T24A is good design or not is of less relevance. I would be more interested to know how many process and machinery are shared between these two engines in their factory.

From the original Tundra report, it seems signs showed up at very low mileages, some not even 10K. I haven’t seen similar report here so far, including my 10K miles LC are running very smooth (less so for transmission though). So let’s hope it stays that way years to come.

It is not just the design. This particular engine has probably sold over 1 million units across multiple families of vehicles worldwide over the last four years. If there was a process problem somewhere like the Tundra, dont you think we would see it by now?

 

[Sugarloafer80]

YOUR T24A engine was made in Japan..

Getting down on your Land Cruiser, built with a different engine, at different plant, at a different time is only self defeating. I take the exact opposite view. I Just spent the last 20++ yrs driving everything out there that was supposedly going to be a nightmare...ZERO issues except that one tranny which was an industry wide issue. O am EXTREMELY impressed thus far. I SEE ZERO REASON TO BE A DOUBTING THOMAS.
RELAX. Gx550 values tank but there is market for this type of vehicle. May have a very positive effect on our values...the tried and true version...

 

[teghogh]

Getting down on your Land Cruiser, built with a different engine, at different plant, at a different time is only self defeating. I take the exact opposite view. I Just spent the last 20++ yrs driving everything out there that was supposedly going to be a nightmare...ZERO issues except that one tranny which was an industry wide issue. O am EXTREMELY impressed thus far. I SEE ZERO REASON TO BE A DOUBTING THOMAS.
RELAX. Gx550 values tank but there is market for this type of vehicle. May have a very positive effect on our values...the tried and true version...

Gx 550 values are far from tanking . Similar msrp gx and lc have a 15k price differential in auctions

 

[loop320]

I wonder what makes you be so sure they did not make the engine in Alabama? I found no credible source to indicate that. I think they made the engine in Alabama because of this:

Toyota Alabama kicks off production on new engine line after $222 million project - Made in Alabama

HUNTSVILLE, Alabama — Toyota Alabama announced today that it has started production on its i-FORCE 2.4-liter turbo engine line at its Huntsville engine plant, culminating a $222 million investment project launched in 2022. Toyota Alabama said the new engine line will provide powertrains for the...

www.madeinalabama.com

As whether the engine is already “proven”, that argument has been debated for a few years so I don’t have intention to repeat the whole thing again. Let’s just say it is my personal opinion that it isn’t.

Check out the part about engine and transmission parts, 100% Japan. In fact, the whole thing is 100% Japan, just the way I like it.

 

[Impatient]

Gx 550 values are far from tanking . Similar msrp gx and lc have a 15k price differential in auctions

The GX’s all sell for over sticker. It’s a very in demand model. That’s not going to change.