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I've been (almost) only using Top Tier since getting the LC, but I did a long term (several years) analysis of previous cars I owned and saw a 10-15% increase in MPG between bargain gas and brand name.I got the roof rack, 265 toyos on and steel engine/trans/tcase skids. After fueling up only at Sunoco..my mpg went up from 19.5 to 20.2. Wondering if the quality of gas also matters.
What do you mean only 14 of the 17 is useable?Honestly its not the efficiency that's the issue..... Its the size of the tank and the reserve. There is only 14 gallons useable in the tank out of 17. If it was a 24 gallon tank and you use 21 gallons none of this would be an issue. On trips which I do often, I can get maybe 180-200 miles until fillup with a couple big passes to cross. I have about 12,000 miles on the odometer and its not changing. I will install a bigger gas tank because of this just to make a 270 mile road trip without filling up (which is the distance of my cabin). The actual mpg 16/17/18/19 is fine with me.
Our stupid ford explorer with a 16 gallon tank can make it 250 miles at least before fill up and it has crappy gas mileage. My full size truck with huge V8 at best 15/16 mpg could make it at least 250 + miles before fillup. Most vehicles with much worse MPG made today can make it 250 due to the size of the tank. I currently own 7 vehicles and the toyota which is the newest vehicle and the only hybrid has the shortest range of them all...... well tied with my 1988 FJ62.
That’s awesome and thanks for letting me know that I’m not crazy. Before I only filled up at Sam’s Club. Guess I will be sticking to top tier gas only now.I've been (almost) only using Top Tier since getting the LC, but I did a long term (several years) analysis of previous cars I owned and saw a 10-15% increase in MPG between bargain gas and brand name.
It's a whole other debate about bargain vs Top Tier with engine life.
Welcome to the asylum.I live in a hilly to mountainous area & going downhill I'm now getting 28 to 30 mpg driving the speed limit or slightly above in normal mode.
Coming back & going uphill, I'm getting around 22 mpg. Total elevation drop/increase approximately 1,100'.
I'm using Citgo 93 octane.
2025 LC-1958 just turned 1,000 miles.
I think Sam’s Club IS top tier(?).That’s awesome and thanks for letting me know that I’m not crazy. Before I only filled up at Sam’s Club. Guess I will be sticking to top tier gas only now.
Sadly no its not. I would fuel up at costco, but the ones around me are like the hunger games.I think Sam’s Club IS top tier(?).
Been using Shell 93 octane the last 4 fill ups. Filled up yesterday @ 6,623 miles and was 23.2 mpg but I attribute the mileage gains to selling our house on the upper NW side of Santa Fe to our new house out beyond the SE city limits with lower posted speed limits 40 - 50 mph compared to going 70 mph on 599. I'm sure when I take the dogs to Pueblo, CO next Saturday for a trial it will be back to 19 on the interstate at 70 - 80 mph.I think Sam’s Club IS top tier(?).
Are those ranges per tank, or for the life of the car?For those of us concerned about our Land Cruiser 250 range, there may be hope on the horizon (if you can get a Chinese vehicle). How does 1,000 miles sound?
"The recent Shanghai auto show was teeming with EREVs alongside fully electric and hybrid models, including the Luxeed R7, a midsize sport utility vehicle springing from a collaboration between Chery Auto and tech giant Huawei.
Starting at 299,800 yuan ($42,000), the vehicle offers around 360 kilometers (224 miles) of pure-electric range.
That figure jumps to more than than 1,600 kilometers, or 1,000 miles, when the gasoline engine kicks in."
That means when your fuel gauge reads empty your tank still has 2/3 gallons left in it. If you want to be very specific about it and track every detail of fuel going in miles etc you can go longer and risk it. The majority of people go by the visual fuel gauge including myself and when my fuel is empty I have almost always only used about 14 gallons of the 17 in the tank. They do this so you don't run out of fuel and hurt the hybrid system running on electric for long periods of time is the assumption. So for the majority of people only 14/15 gallons is ever used in the tank out of 17.What do you mean only 14 of the 17 is useable?
My 2012 Tundra had the same “feature”. Thus I don’t think Toyota’s decision was related to the hybrid setup at all.That means when your fuel gauge reads empty your tank still has 2/3 gallons left in it. If you want to be very specific about it and track every detail of fuel going in miles etc you can go longer and risk it. The majority of people go by the visual fuel gauge including myself and when my fuel is empty I have almost always only used about 14 gallons of the 17 in the tank. They do this so you don't run out of fuel and hurt the hybrid system running on electric for long periods of time is the assumption. So for the majority of people only 14/15 gallons is ever used in the tank out of 17.
When I picked up Miss Daisy in July, the fuel gauge said my range was 311 miles after my first fill up.I'm seeing around 24 through most tanks now with normal driving. My computer usually says my range after fill-up is 371 miles.