Does anyone actually get the posted 22/24 mpg?

Did anyone feel a difference of on-road stability between these two types of front air dams ??
 

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I just did a 900 mile trip from NW PA to the Blue Ridge Mountains in central VA last week. Spent a lot of time driving through the mountains and back roads. Average overall trip mileage was 22.4 - loving it!

Kept it in normal mode (as always), stock wheels/tires, roof rack, rock sliders, skid plates, loaded up with about 200 lbs of gear and food. Closing in on 12,000 miles on the LC FE overall, still very happy.
 
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My Gf and I drove across two states, virtually all on non interstate roads with 55 mph speed limits. There were several 150 to 200 mile legs of the trip where Miss Daisy showed 27 to 28.3 mpg on the dash. I kept telling her, “Something must be wrong with MIss Daisy.” 🤣
 
I got the roof rack, 265 toyos on and steel engine/trans/tcase skids. After fueling up only at Sunoco..my mpg went up from 19.5 to 20.2. Wondering if the quality of gas also matters.
I've been (almost) only using Top Tier since getting the LC, but I did a long term (several years) analysis of previous cars I owned and saw a 10-15% increase in MPG between bargain gas and brand name.

It's a whole other debate about bargain vs Top Tier with engine life.
 
Honestly its not the efficiency that's the issue..... Its the size of the tank and the reserve. There is only 14 gallons useable in the tank out of 17. If it was a 24 gallon tank and you use 21 gallons none of this would be an issue. On trips which I do often, I can get maybe 180-200 miles until fillup with a couple big passes to cross. I have about 12,000 miles on the odometer and its not changing. I will install a bigger gas tank because of this just to make a 270 mile road trip without filling up (which is the distance of my cabin). The actual mpg 16/17/18/19 is fine with me.

Our stupid ford explorer with a 16 gallon tank can make it 250 miles at least before fill up and it has crappy gas mileage. My full size truck with huge V8 at best 15/16 mpg could make it at least 250 + miles before fillup. Most vehicles with much worse MPG made today can make it 250 due to the size of the tank. I currently own 7 vehicles and the toyota which is the newest vehicle and the only hybrid has the shortest range of them all...... well tied with my 1988 FJ62.
What do you mean only 14 of the 17 is useable?
 
I've been (almost) only using Top Tier since getting the LC, but I did a long term (several years) analysis of previous cars I owned and saw a 10-15% increase in MPG between bargain gas and brand name.

It's a whole other debate about bargain vs Top Tier with engine life.
That’s awesome and thanks for letting me know that I’m not crazy. Before I only filled up at Sam’s Club. Guess I will be sticking to top tier gas only now.
 
I live in a hilly to mountainous area & going downhill I'm now getting 28 to 30 mpg driving the speed limit or slightly above in normal mode.
Coming back & going uphill, I'm getting around 22 mpg. Total elevation drop/increase approximately 1,100'.
I'm using Citgo 93 octane.
2025 LC-1958 just turned 1,000 miles.
 
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I live in a hilly to mountainous area & going downhill I'm now getting 28 to 30 mpg driving the speed limit or slightly above in normal mode.
Coming back & going uphill, I'm getting around 22 mpg. Total elevation drop/increase approximately 1,100'.
I'm using Citgo 93 octane.
2025 LC-1958 just turned 1,000 miles.
Welcome to the asylum.
 
I think Sam’s Club IS top tier(?).
Been using Shell 93 octane the last 4 fill ups. Filled up yesterday @ 6,623 miles and was 23.2 mpg but I attribute the mileage gains to selling our house on the upper NW side of Santa Fe to our new house out beyond the SE city limits with lower posted speed limits 40 - 50 mph compared to going 70 mph on 599. I'm sure when I take the dogs to Pueblo, CO next Saturday for a trial it will be back to 19 on the interstate at 70 - 80 mph.
 
For those of us concerned about our Land Cruiser 250 range, there may be hope on the horizon (if you can get a Chinese vehicle). How does 1,000 miles sound?

"The recent Shanghai auto show was teeming with EREVs alongside fully electric and hybrid models, including the Luxeed R7, a midsize sport utility vehicle springing from a collaboration between Chery Auto and tech giant Huawei.

Starting at 299,800 yuan ($42,000), the vehicle offers around 360 kilometers (224 miles) of pure-electric range.

That figure jumps to more than than 1,600 kilometers, or 1,000 miles, when the gasoline engine kicks in."

 
For those of us concerned about our Land Cruiser 250 range, there may be hope on the horizon (if you can get a Chinese vehicle). How does 1,000 miles sound?

"The recent Shanghai auto show was teeming with EREVs alongside fully electric and hybrid models, including the Luxeed R7, a midsize sport utility vehicle springing from a collaboration between Chery Auto and tech giant Huawei.

Starting at 299,800 yuan ($42,000), the vehicle offers around 360 kilometers (224 miles) of pure-electric range.

That figure jumps to more than than 1,600 kilometers, or 1,000 miles, when the gasoline engine kicks in."

Are those ranges per tank, or for the life of the car? ;)
 
What do you mean only 14 of the 17 is useable?
That means when your fuel gauge reads empty your tank still has 2/3 gallons left in it. If you want to be very specific about it and track every detail of fuel going in miles etc you can go longer and risk it. The majority of people go by the visual fuel gauge including myself and when my fuel is empty I have almost always only used about 14 gallons of the 17 in the tank. They do this so you don't run out of fuel and hurt the hybrid system running on electric for long periods of time is the assumption. So for the majority of people only 14/15 gallons is ever used in the tank out of 17.
 
That means when your fuel gauge reads empty your tank still has 2/3 gallons left in it. If you want to be very specific about it and track every detail of fuel going in miles etc you can go longer and risk it. The majority of people go by the visual fuel gauge including myself and when my fuel is empty I have almost always only used about 14 gallons of the 17 in the tank. They do this so you don't run out of fuel and hurt the hybrid system running on electric for long periods of time is the assumption. So for the majority of people only 14/15 gallons is ever used in the tank out of 17.
My 2012 Tundra had the same “feature”. Thus I don’t think Toyota’s decision was related to the hybrid setup at all.

Thankfully my ‘02 LC did not have an overly-conservative gauge. That vehicle’s true range was lousy enough!
 
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According to Fuelly, I just had the best tank through my 1958- it was 26 MPG. We took a trip to the beach and it's mostly highway (Mostly US & State highway 55-60 mph and a smattering of Interstate at 70+).

Stock 245/70 tires/wheels with FE Roof Rack and TRD skid plate. 5100 miles on odo and always running 93 octane.

I'm seeing around 24 through most tanks now with normal driving. My computer usually says my range after fill-up is 371 miles.
 
I'm seeing around 24 through most tanks now with normal driving. My computer usually says my range after fill-up is 371 miles.
When I picked up Miss Daisy in July, the fuel gauge said my range was 311 miles after my first fill up.

10,000 miles later, after using ethanol free 93 octane (almost always), my distance to empty has risen to 390 miles, and my Total Average (unset since new) has risen to 23.5 MPG.
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Moderate driving i average 23 with 2.5” lift and 33s. Now that I have my intake that will probably drop. I can hear the turbo now and it sounds to good 😂. All jokes aside I live in the mountains and I never really drop under 18 mpg just stay out of boost and your good.
 
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