Adios Amigos, only made it 8 months...

Damn, you guys watch way too much The Walking Dead. 😂 The windshield can't even handle a few small rocks kicked up on the highway—how's it supposed to stop a full-grown zombie from coming through?
I can live with the windshield breaking. But I’d like to know that the vehicle will drive where I operate it to, and that it won’t overrule me.
 
(Warning: I spent my entire career building control systems and user interfaces)

Having owned my 25 premium for about six months and having put 15000 miles on it, I just completed a near-5000 mile journey over two weeks covering two thirds of the country on interstate highways and approximately 1500 miles of Idaho back country on forest roads or trails (thanks for having me Idaho, I miss my time as a resident). For me, this is what I wanted my LC to do. It performed very well. With the obvious lower mileage and high cargo floor which are hassles as are the non lay-flat seats and small tank, but whatever, I knew those were there when I purchased. On a not so unrelated note , I'm unsure of the real mileage because the tires used for this trip are oversized and there's no way to change the effective tire diameter.

Skipping the pleasures of sure-footed capability and how great a substitute overlanding is for backpacking, my biggest complaint is the embedded conclusion in the control system: Toyota feels IT knows what you "need" better than you. I didn't think it would be this bad. From map screens that change their own settings (including orientation) from what you've selected back to default orientation settings if you look at anything else to glitzy transitions with twirling graphics that take away your instrument display for long seconds while driving if you change driving modes, it is NOT THIS DRIVER'S CONTROL SYSTEM. The video-game like antics on display conflict with real-time driving tasks and far too often require the driver's eyes to complete sequences for common tasks- it's ok when you're parked in an urban setting but unacceptable in dynamic driving situations. If the camera WATCHING YOU is blocked, say with a Factor-55 sticker as a crazy example, you have 30 minutes before an endlessly recurring warning will come up repeating itself every 5 seconds. This warning must be cleared each time interaction with the instrument cluster is needed (yes! I'm pig-headed enough to have had the message displayed near full time for weeks.) The fact that the vehicle, purportedly built for overlanding can, among other things, can kill its own battery with non-running electrical current requirements and yet does not have a "single button low power mode" is indicative. Many TSS systems also cannot be turned off, including the driver monitoring system alluded to above (a particular hot button for me- ever wonder what the data being collected is or who gets access to what?). Additionally, of the items that can be defeated, too many of the settings are not retentive and return TO THE TOYOTA SELECTED DEFAULTS on power cycle. The idea that a single set of defaults can support a multi-use vehicle with tons of user variability is ludicrous and hubris in the highest degree. If I get rid of this vehicle it will be for reasons along these lines and I have to confess I am considering it, I am very dissatisfied with the software in the controls. Ironically, it doesn't have to be that way.

Required nanny systems that don't work well (see cross traffic detection anywhere) aren't welcome and are for sheep or for the manufacturer's continuing development. They shouldn't be forced onto customers as is the current practice. Given Toyota's prowess in producing excellent vehicles, their continued expansion of owner unfriendly controls is shocking. I am also thinking there are buyers for an aftermarket interface given the clear deficiencies of the factory implementation. Toyota, are you listening?
Software programmers are public enemy #1 for me these days. Few if any wever use anything they program....and it shows.......it is not a Toyota thing, it is an epidemic involving EVERYTHING these days and it seemed to escalate precipitously post COVID.
 
So far, the one item that has annoyed me and not only on my LC, is the damn radar crap. I drive lots on slushy, junk roads in winter that are still tar, just junk laden tar. There is no reason beyond engineering CYA that should not allow when the sensors get iced, it asks a simple question "Radar Detection System iced, do you wish to continue in non assisted mode?" Answer yes and you get traditional cruise control which is all I use anyway on the LC. (aside: my GV60 has the best adaptive system I have yet to experience, re accels as you pull out at a driver selectable rate.). Same can be said for many of the other annoying nannies.

There is OBVIOUSLY a market out there to override the MMI system essentially shutting many nannies off permanently and overriding others as needs arise. Instead of wasting money on tunes etc, this market has yet to be explored and I would definitely be into a user interface adaptive system beyond the CYA OE stuff. It can easily be sold for off road use only.......
 
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Not sure if we have anything different here except for the obvious. I love my LC250 and I have put it through some challenging territory. I also tow a 3 tonne van and the only things I’ve done is fitted a GVM upgrade and air bags. It isn’t a LC200 and never was it supposed to be, that would be the LC300 - not sure if you get that or not. The LC 250 has always been a lightweight vehicle for mild 4wd use. Anyways enjoy your LC200 they are a good vehicle.
 
Will be interesting to see how that version LC300 (LX600) sells. It belongs in Lexus world as we get the Sequoia for those that want the biggest offering.
 
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