Adios Amigos, only made it 8 months...

I'll buy you lunch on my next trip to CO if you can do any sequence in the MMI, put some tape over the camera window at the top of the column, drive for 30+ minutes (using adaptive cruise or lane assist might speed it up?) and not see the warning....
No lunch needed but check out the file I linked to and see if turning off Driver Monitoring solves it for you.
 
I share those same complaints Mopper. They’re why I say the J250 could never be suitable as any kind of bug-out vehicle (pardon the cringy jargon). I have come to strongly dislike the safety tech. I understand and appreciate it in theory (I have seen how my fellow road users drive and thinks it’s probably best for the average driver), but it’s not for me.

That being said, I’m pretty sure you can fully turn off the driver monitoring system. It’s been a while since I did it but I haven’t gotten alerts in months. EOD Guy’s settings pdf file has it listed.

Edit: worth saving this pdf: Dash Menu/Settings items
I'll buy you lunch on my next trip to CO if you can do any sequence in the MMI, put some tape over the camera window at the top of the column, drive for 30+ minutes (using adaptive cruise or lane assist might speed it up?) and not see the warning....
Same offer!
 
I'll buy you lunch on my next trip to CO if you can do any sequence in the MMI, put some tape over the camera window at the top of the column, drive for 30+ minutes (using adaptive cruise or lane assist might speed it up?) and not see the warning....
I’ll monkey around with it. I used to get a warning when I put my arm in front of that little screen for any length of time, but I don’t anymore. I don’t remember what I changed.

Technically, covering the camera with tape might generate a warning that the camera is covered, not that the driver monitoring system isn’t working. I realize one goes with the other, but you’d have to be pretty deep into the software to be able to know which it is.
 
I’ll monkey around with it. I used to get a warning when I put my arm in front of that little screen for any length of time, but I don’t anymore. I don’t remember what I changed.

Technically, covering the camera with tape might generate a warning that the camera is covered, not that the driver monitoring system isn’t working. I realize one goes with the other, but you’d have to be pretty deep into the software to be able to know which it is.
 

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I've done it already- error message and presumably camera operation continue. The piece of tape is revealing... and damning!
Weird. I’ve never tried obscuring the camera but if it gives warnings even when disengaged that’s pretty shitty.

I’m going to try it later this week, my blood pressure has been running a little low so this should help.
 
Right. Playing devil’s advocate, that message might not mean that the system was collecting data and now cannot, but rather that the data collecting system is not available for activation should you choose to.

When the proximity sensors become covered with ice, the truck throws a similar message. It doesn’t say “I’m trying to detect proximity and can’t.” It says “the proximity detection system is not available.” The meaning is slightly different and as I said above you’d probably have to talk with a Toyota engineer to know for sure what’s happening.
 
Right. Playing devil’s advocate, that message might not mean that the system was collecting data and now cannot, but rather that the data collecting system is not available for activation should you choose to.

When the proximity sensors become covered with ice, the truck throws a similar message. It doesn’t say “I’m trying to detect proximity and can’t.” It says “the proximity detection system is not available.” The meaning is slightly different and as I said above you’d probably have to talk with a Toyota engineer to know for sure what’s happening.
I hate it a little bit less in your scenario. The objective is no distracting, non-dismissible alerts!
 
Right. Playing devil’s advocate, that message might not mean that the system was collecting data and now cannot, but rather that the data collecting system is not available for activation should you choose to.

When the proximity sensors become covered with ice, the truck throws a similar message. It doesn’t say “I’m trying to detect proximity and can’t.” It says “the proximity detection system is not available.” The meaning is slightly different and as I said above you’d probably have to talk with a Toyota engineer to know for sure what’s happening.
Like @RideWithYanu, that initially decreased my dislike.

But.... why every five seconds? Way too often for a non-critical, non-functional system alert. IMO, this type of check/warning should be done during power-up/system initialization and require clearing ONE TIME until the next power-up/initialization. An additional display of the warning is fine if you turn on a system that requires the camera such as Traffic Jam Assist

It illustrates well my contention that Toyota is breaking its customers focus on the driving task with its system implementation.
 
I share those same complaints Mopper. They’re why I say the J250 could never be suitable as any kind of bug-out vehicle (pardon the cringy jargon). I have come to strongly dislike the safety tech. I understand and appreciate it in theory (I have seen how my fellow road users drive and thinks it’s probably best for the average driver), but it’s not for me.

That being said, I’m pretty sure you can fully turn off the driver monitoring system. It’s been a while since I did it but I haven’t gotten alerts in months. EOD Guy’s settings pdf file has it listed.

Edit: worth saving this pdf: Dash Menu/Settings items

Are there any modern cars being produced today that would meet your criteria of a bug-out vehicle? While bored at work, I’ve been amusing myself with that very thought experiment, but I keep asking myself this silly question: would the safety systems on <modern car> prevent me from driving over a humanoid shape (e.g. the undead!)? And I think a lot them would, especially EVs. And if I have to wait 18 minutes to charge my car as a horde of cannibals wielding spiked bats approach me I’m screwed. lol.
 
Are there any modern cars being produced today that would meet your criteria of a bug-out vehicle? While bored at work, I’ve been amusing myself with that very thought experiment, but I keep asking myself this silly question: would the safety systems on <modern car> prevent me from driving over a humanoid shape (e.g. the undead!)? And I think a lot them would, especially EVs. And if I have to wait 18 minutes to charge my car as a horde of cannibals wielding spiked bats approach me I’m screwed. lol.
Not many in the USA. The Grenadier is probably the best option. Many great options from the past!
 
Are there any modern cars being produced today that would meet your criteria of a bug-out vehicle? While bored at work, I’ve been amusing myself with that very thought experiment, but I keep asking myself this silly question: would the safety systems on <modern car> prevent me from driving over a humanoid shape (e.g. the undead!)? And I think a lot them would, especially EVs. And if I have to wait 18 minutes to charge my car as a horde of cannibals wielding spiked bats approach me I’m screwed. lol.
Welcome to the asylum.
 
Are there any modern cars being produced today that would meet your criteria of a bug-out vehicle? While bored at work, I’ve been amusing myself with that very thought experiment, but I keep asking myself this silly question: would the safety systems on <modern car> prevent me from driving over a humanoid shape (e.g. the undead!)? And I think a lot them would, especially EVs. And if I have to wait 18 minutes to charge my car as a horde of cannibals wielding spiked bats approach me I’m screwed. lol.
This is a very valid argument. Ive been thinking myself i need to set up some cardboard boxes in a parking lot and make sure i can back over them in a hurry, or ram them at a good speed. (not simulating so fast that the corpse busts my damn windshield though).
 
This is a very valid argument. Ive been thinking myself i need to set up some cardboard boxes in a parking lot and make sure i can back over them in a hurry, or ram them at a good speed. (not simulating so fast that the corpse busts my damn windshield though).
Yes thank you!! Finally someone who takes my concerns seriously! If a 7-foot tall guy in coveralls and a hockey mask is walking menacingly towards my LC250 while holding a bloody machete, can I run his ass over or will TSS 3.0 slam on the brakes? And will I be able to hear my own dying screams over the safety warning sounds?
 
Yes thank you!! Finally someone who takes my concerns seriously! If a 7-foot tall guy in coveralls and a hockey mask is walking menacingly towards my LC250 while holding a bloody machete, can I run his ass over or will TSS 3.0 slam on the brakes? And will I be able to hear my own dying screams over the safety warning sounds?
Pretty sure this calls for a full mock-up and live test. The video would be a big hit, I'm sure... no it didn't occur to me until I wrote it btw...

No way your blood curdling screams will be heard over the safety din though so better not get injured or die
 
The LC250 is built to get around obstacles, not through them. 😄 Just tell Jason, "I want no trouble," and take another route. The full-time 4WD, turbo, and center/rear diff locks have you covered, while TSS 3.0 will hopefully help you brake before Jason becomes a windshield passenger. 😂
 
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