The “I love my land cruiser but hate this about it” thread…..

I hate the leather or fake leather whichever it may be. Only 3000 miles and I already have 2 rips from my dog. I’ve owned Toyotas with leather seats for a long time and never had a problem. Storage is an issue with the cool box but I’m making it work. Otherwise I absolutely love it.
Welcome to the asylum.
 
I hate the leather or fake leather whichever it may be. Only 3000 miles and I already have 2 rips from my dog. I’ve owned Toyotas with leather seats for a long time and never had a problem. Storage is an issue with the cool box but I’m making it work. Otherwise I absolutely love it.

If you have the premium package you have real leather. If you do not have the premium package you have soft Tex which is essentially a pleather aka faux leather.
 
My unpleasant experiences among huge proud and love to my FE
1. Small fuel tank——>carry more spare fuel while overland
2. 12v battery——> many bad experiences, ensure to turn engine ON while working on LC and doors must open ! Carry high capacity jump start

I still 💕 and ❤️ my FE 😜
A bigger fuel tank would be a game changer!!!! Who knows maybe we’ll get lucky with an aftermarket option in the future.

That’s an interesting point about the battery. We live in a cold environment however, our vehicles are all garaged so it shouldn’t be too harsh on it but the more and more I am looking at doing more and more over-landing and trail type trips, I think having a portable jump pack is an absolute must.
 
Since we're complaining, here's another one. Lack of UV protection from the side windows. My F150 Tremor has laminated side glass, which provides good UV protection. My LC does not have laminated side glass and I can't find any data that says the side glass has more than minimal UV protection.
Back in 2010 or so, Toyota made a big deal about adding UV protection. Whatever happened to that emphasis?
Please tell me I'm wrong and point to the data that the LC does have side glass UV protection.
Maybe? From a 25 Premium's manual-
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The front driver's side window watermark, note UV designation. I THINK the window is laminated.
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The back driver's side window watermark, note "Temperlite". I THINK the window is tempered.
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A bigger fuel tank would be a game changer!!!! Who knows maybe we’ll get lucky with an aftermarket option in the future.
Today is your lucky day - there are several aftermarket options available now.
 
The front driver's side window watermark, note UV designation. I THINK the window is laminated.
I don't think it's laminated but I DO think it's UV filtering, which I believe is done with a coating not an added layer.

I took a pic of my quilt of marks and asked ChatGPT what they mean. Here's the output.

Those markings are the certification and specification codes etched into the window glass. They identify who made it, what standards it meets, and some of its properties.

Here’s what the visible symbols mean:

  • TOYOTA – Original equipment (OEM) glass supplied for Toyota vehicles.
  • JPN – Manufactured in Japan.
  • DOT23 – U.S. Department of Transportation manufacturer code. The DOT number identifies the glass manufacturer.
  • NIPPON SAFETY – Brand name used by the Japanese glass manufacturer.
  • UV – The glass provides ultraviolet filtering to help block UV radiation.
  • AS2– U.S. safety classification for automotive glazing.
    • AS1 = windshield-grade glass.
    • AS2 = side and rear window glass (like the window shown in your photo).
  • NSG M508– Manufacturer/model code.
    • NSG stands for the Nippon Sheet Glass Group, a major automotive glass manufacturer.
    • The rest is an internal glass specification.
  • E6 43R-00012– European approval markings.
    • E6 indicates the glass was approved in Belgium under European regulations.
    • 43R refers to UN/ECE Regulation 43 for automotive safety glazing.
    • The remaining number is the approval certificate.
  • CCC (the three C’s in an oval-like arrangement) – China Compulsory Certification, showing the glass meets Chinese certification requirements.
  • 1000751 – Certification or approval tracking number associated with the CCC marking.
One interesting thing this tells us is that the glass is OEM Toyota glass manufactured by Nippon Sheet Glass and certified for use in multiple markets (North America, Europe, and China).

If you’re trying to determine whether the glass is original to the vehicle, I can also help interpret the date code hidden in the markings. A photo that includes more of the etching (especially any dots, stars, or small numbers near the logo) can often reveal the manufacturing month and year.
 
Today is your lucky day - there are several aftermarket options available now.
I was reading about a couple late last night. Looks like the next hurdle is figuring out a way for the fuel gauge to read properly. Or has there been a fix for that too?
 
My big gripe is the 1958 head unit + speaker decisions Toyota made (very weak power output).

I love my 1958 for its simplicity so you could say I am being ridiculous (usually right) but why is the 1958 head unit output so weak? Also the ohms on each speaker is a bit of a headscratcher (8 ohm in tweeters for ex.). Guess I get what I paid for lol
 
Rattles are definitely irritating. However, you will deal with occasional rattles on every single vehicle make on the market.

In fact, I have found the higher end the manufacturer, they are more prone to occasional rattles.
In my experience....2019 Ford Escape (no squeaks/rattles), 2015 Mercedes E350 wagon (no squeaks/rattles), 2007 FJ Cruiser (no squeaks/rattles), 2012 FJ Cruiser (no squeaks/rattles).
 
My big gripe is the 1958 head unit + speaker decisions Toyota made (very weak power output).

I love my 1958 for its simplicity so you could say I am being ridiculous (usually right) but why is the 1958 head unit output so weak? Also the ohms on each speaker is a bit of a headscratcher (8 ohm in tweeters for ex.). Guess I get what I paid for lol
Must be why the Beat-Sonic and PAC-Audio OEM head unit upgrades are popular on this forum :).
 
Not going to lie, the heated portion on the seats work great but the cooled function is not great. Probably the least cooled in all the vehicles I’ve had. Not sure why they went so conservative with it…. Even as we speak wearing shirts and a t shirt and I can’t feel it much.
 
Not going to lie, the heated portion on the seats work great but the cooled function is not great. Probably the least cooled in all the vehicles I’ve had. Not sure why they went so conservative with it…. Even as we speak wearing shirts and a t shirt and I can’t feel it much.
What’s crazier is that Toyota has the ability to do this well. My wife’s Sequoia w/ softex gets you near uncomfortably cold, even during summer heat.
 
What’s crazier is that Toyota has the ability to do this well. My wife’s Sequoia w/ softex gets you near uncomfortably cold, even during summer heat.
What the hell no way?!??? I am the type to leave the cooled on year round whereas my wife prefers the heated. I’m curious to see why this is….

I have a diesel 6.7 Cummins Laramie package with heated and cooled real leather seats and the seats get insanely cold to the point where you would think it’s actual ac blowing on the tush.
 
Not going to lie, the heated portion on the seats work great but the cooled function is not great. Probably the least cooled in all the vehicles I’ve had. Not sure why they went so conservative with it…. Even as we speak wearing shirts and a t shirt and I can’t feel it much.
I have to agree that the cooling could have been much better. FWIW though, it works reasonably well when I'm sweaty, which is the time I want it most.
 
What the hell no way?!??? I am the type to leave the cooled on year round whereas my wife prefers the heated. I’m curious to see why this is….

I have a diesel 6.7 Cummins Laramie package with heated and cooled real leather seats and the seats get insanely cold to the point where you would think it’s actual ac blowing on the tush.
Well, I mean… it is actual ac blowing on the tush :sneaky:
 
Well, I mean… it is actual ac blowing on the tush :sneaky:
I didn’t know that I always thought it was just recirculated air being pushed through via fans. Even in the winter I use the cooled seats without the ac on in the truck.
 
I didn’t know that I always thought it was just recirculated air being pushed through via fans. Even in the winter I use the cooled seats without the ac on in the truck.
I mean, I was being a smart a$$, sorry bout that. I guess my assumption was that you have the AC on when turning on the seat ventilator, which would then be recirculating AC air… I honestly thought my emoji conveyed my being contrary and apologize if it misled.
 
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