Land Cruiser Target Market

lcfanboy said:
. But not looking for a family-focused crossover per se.
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I’d have to agree. Many SUV’s are really crossovers of some kind & too many midsize & up are family oriented with 3rd rows, etc. For those of us without families to haul around (my dog doesn’t really care what car she’s riding in, just that she gets to go…) there aren’t as many good choices as you might think.
 
MJE said:
I’d have to agree. Many SUV’s are really crossovers of some kind & too many midsize & up are family oriented with 3rd rows, etc. For those of us without families to haul around (my dog doesn’t really care what car she’s riding in, just that she gets to go…) there aren’t as many good choices as you might think.
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Except for their Overtrail variants, Lexus puts a 3rd row in their 2024 GX. I have a feeling the hybrid battery prevented Toyota from a 3rd-row option. It will be interesting to see what happens when the GX hybrid comes to pass.
 
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Nuke said:
Except for their Overtrail variants, Lexus puts a 3rd row in their 2024 GX. I have a feeling the hybrid battery prevented Toyota from a 3rd-row option. It will be interesting to see what happens when the GX hybrid arrives.
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lcfanboy said:
I think another interesting market segment will be those who have loyally followed Toyota for a while (perhaps owning a 4Runner or FJ) and are ready to 'upgrade' to a slightly more expensive car that is way more in reach than the prior LCs have been. But not looking for a family-focused crossover per se.
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"the prior" LC in US was a different car. Landcruiser has three families:
1) Heavy Duty 20, 40, 70
2) Station Wagon 50, 60, 80 (LX450) 100 (LX470), 200 (LX570), 300 (LX600)
3) Light Duty - called Prado in some markets: a version of 70, 90, 120 (GX470), 150 (GX460), 250 (GX550)

Thus 250 will be the first LC PRADO available in US. It will be a game changer.
We will discuss which engine is best for such an amazing car... the 2.4T Hybrid in US or the 2.8L Diesel in Europe.
 
MJE said:
I’d have to agree. Many SUV’s are really crossovers of some kind & too many midsize & up are family oriented with 3rd rows, etc. For those of us without families to haul around (my dog doesn’t really care what car she’s riding in, just that she gets to go…) there aren’t as many good choices as you might think.
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Totally agree, there seems to be a revival in our market segment. Coming from a Wrangler, I was looking at the 2024/2025 Honda Passport based on the new Pilot; the LC 250 satisfies many more requirements for me. The RAV4 is not really a comparison but is the best value; I can’t buy a RAV4 knowing the LC 250 is coming.
 
MJE said:
I’d have to agree. Many SUV’s are really crossovers of some kind & too many midsize & up are family oriented with 3rd rows, etc. For those of us without families to haul around (my dog doesn’t really care what car she’s riding in, just that she gets to go…) there aren’t as many good choices as you might think.
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Looks like the only body-on-frame for 2+dog (what kind?) is the Wrangler Sport 2 Door. Everything else is big and expensive.

As you probably know LC90, 120, 150 had a 2-Door version. In Australia they did not sell LC90 and LC120 2-Door.

 
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LC-120 said:
"the prior" LC in US was a different car. Landcruiser has three families:
1) Heavy Duty 20, 40, 70
2) Station Wagon 50, 60, 80 (LX450) 100 (LX470), 200 (LX570), 300 (LX600)
3) Light Duty - called Prado in some markets: a version of 70, 90, 120 (GX470), 150 (GX460), 250 (GX550)

Thus 250 will be the first LC PRADO available in US. It will be a game changer.
We will discuss which engine is best for such an amazing car... the 2.4T Hybrid in US or the 2.8L Diesel in Europe.
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I'm aware of the LC families and how different the previous LC was. It still holds true that the new LC is an upgrade from the T4R even though it's different than the previous LC available in the US.
 
LC-120 said:
Looks like the only body-on-frame for 2+dog (what kind?) is the Wrangler Sport 2 Door. Everything else is big and expensive.

As you probably know LC90, 120, 150 had a 2-Door version. In Australia they did not sell LC90 and LC120 2-Door.

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Yes just about anything 2 door is largely gone away. But what kind of dog? Erm.. your guess is as good as mine.. whatever wandered by the farmyard that day I think. Here’s Keeley on our outing to the mountains last week.
 

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Nuke said:
Yep, the smart money would be to purchase a 4Runner NOW, prior to phase-out. However, our daughter purchased a Limited a couple of years ago, and I cannot get over how loud it is compared to our recently-sold (A BIG mistake) 2005 4Runner Limited with only 50K miles logged. With the V8 and port injection, it was much quieter than the daughter's machine. Cannot recall, but it seems the new Taco has standard trailer brakes? Possibly I am thinking of the Land Cruiser? Last, but not least, sure wish there was a Lexus dealer close, and I would be spending the kid's inheritance on a GX550. In fact, that still may happen. :)
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At least they could get that GX550 one day. ;)
 
lcfanboy said:
I think another interesting market segment will be those who have loyally followed Toyota for a while (perhaps owning a 4Runner or FJ) and are ready to 'upgrade' to a slightly more expensive car that is way more in reach than the prior LCs have been. But not looking for a family-focused crossover per se.
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This describes me exactly. Was planning to wait for the new Tacoma or 4Runner, but when this came out, my decision was made - even knowing it'll likely be $10k - $15k more.
 
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