Firearms, Hunting, Shooting Sports

[RUN-8]

Nosler should get with the program and make a Partition with an Accubond style ballistic tip. That would be an interesting projectile.

Have you tried the Barnes TTSX? I’ve had decent results with those, although I have to note they don’t have the high BC of an ELD-X. My .280 Ackley is fond of them and I have had good results.

 

[NoMe cruiser]

I hunt, mainly grouse, deer, and moose. Mostly heater hunting cause it’s warm and dry. I typically don’t hunt turkey so at this time of year I hop in the cruiser and hunt for sheds. Found 4 lying in the roads the other day.

 

[TimHerald]

Nosler should get with the program and make a Partition with an Accubond style ballistic tip. That would be an interesting projectile.

Have you tried the Barnes TTSX? I’ve had decent results with those, although I have to note they don’t have the high BC of an ELD-X. My .280 Ackley is fond of them and I have had good results.

The Barnes is what I shoot out of my Fierce .338.

Nosler has a long range Accubond, but I hear mixed results. I like the way accubonds perform on animals.

 

[ultane]

Whelp… I left the shooting world over three decades ago while in training. I was in love with my two .308’s. Plain to see I know nothing about long range shooting now.

 

[RUN-8]

Whelp… I left the shooting world over three decades ago while in training. I was in love with my two .308’s. Plain to see I know nothing about long range shooting now.

Principles and basic fundamentals are the same, tools have changed a bit.

The advent of reliable and affordable laser range finders is a huge change from 30 years ago. Add good ballistics programs to that mix, scopes that have properly designed turrets and reticles, and a Kestrel if you want to get wind readings. All of those make the math part way way easier to manage.

Now you can go buy a Garmin Xero Doppler Radar chronograph the size of your hand and get real no bullshit data on your ammo and what it is actually doing out of your barrel. So plug all that into your smart phone murder math app along with your other data like wind and range… you see where I’m going.

A .308 is still capable, but there are better solutions to longer distance shooting. Fortunately most of them are compatible with the nominal .470-.473” bolt face diameter of your .308 Winchester. You would only need a nice custom barrel in 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5X47 Lapua, 6 Creedmoor, and a few less common chamberings. Everything else you have will probably work just fine. Add a range finder, maybe a Kestrel, download an app. Go out and apply basic rifle marksmanship fundamentals and incorporate data into your scope adjustments. You will find out very quickly whether the optic is up to the task, if it is keep it. If not upgrade it, I would rather have a $2500 optic on an $800 rifle than the reverse of that.

 

[lcat63]

Old school AW here. I'm sure the new AI stuff is even better, but my eyesight sure isn't.

 

[RUN-8]

Hell yes. Old school L96A1 Green Meanie.

 

[grandsons]

Old stuff with modern scope, effective up to 1000m, 600m with original Kern scope, 300m with open sight in good hands (almost every Swiss citizen)

 

[grandsons]

Old stuff, darn good non stricker pistol

 

[RUN-8]

Old stuff with modern scope, effective up to 1000m, 600m with original Kern scope, 300m with open sight in good hands (almost every Swiss citizen)
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I’ve shot a few K31’s. Excellent rifles.

 

[ATbuckhunter]

I love guns, but I don't have a huge arsenal at this point. Just a couple rifles, a muzzleloader and a few shotguns I use for birds. I am however a lifelong deer and turkey hunter, but in fall of 2020 I bought a bird dog and have been doing a lot of bird hunting. Bird hunting is actually the reason I got a LC over a Tacoma or Tundra. I wanted a car that has 4wd and I can have my dog kenneled on the inside (to keep the dog cool in the summer training days and warm in the winter hunts). I've never needed 4WD where I hunt in NY, but its been useful when I travel to hunt.

So far I've hunted NY, WY, NH and ME. This year I'm going back to NH for grouse, but next year its back out west. Oddly I've only traveled to other states to hunt birds, instead of going on all the elk, moose and deer hunts I fantasized about when I was younger. Something about going hunting with your best friend that makes it more enjoyable. I'll never give up deer and turkey hunting (going out thursday for the opener), but I think I will continue to travel for mostly birds for a little while longer. The deer hunting in NY isnt bad once you figure it out.

 

[ultane]

Principles and basic fundamentals are the same, tools have changed a bit.

The advent of reliable and affordable laser range finders is a huge change from 30 years ago. Add good ballistics programs to that mix, scopes that have properly designed turrets and reticles, and a Kestrel if you want to get wind readings. All of those make the math part way way easier to manage.

Now you can go buy a Garmin Xero Doppler Radar chronograph the size of your hand and get real no bullshit data on your ammo and what it is actually doing out of your barrel. So plug all that into your smart phone murder math app along with your other data like wind and range… you see where I’m going.

A .308 is still capable, but there are better solutions to longer distance shooting. Fortunately most of them are compatible with the nominal .470-.473” bolt face diameter of your .308 Winchester. You would only need a nice custom barrel in 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5X47 Lapua, 6 Creedmoor, and a few less common chamberings. Everything else you have will probably work just fine. Add a range finder, maybe a Kestrel, download an app. Go out and apply basic rifle marksmanship fundamentals and incorporate data into your scope adjustments. You will find out very quickly whether the optic is up to the task, if it is keep it. If not upgrade it, I would rather have a $2500 optic on an $800 rifle than the reverse of that.

Yeeup. After I got the four kids through college, all with marketable degrees, I was going to get back out on the mountain before I retired and left Idaho. Bought a couple of Z5 Swarovski scopes, and downloaded the apps, a 1700 yard laser range finder, a Sitka rain suit, a Sitka down suit, better boots, etc. Then never got to get out and do it.. Dangit.

 

[RUN-8]

Health problems keeping you from it?

 

[ultane]

Health problems keeping you from it?

Not at all. I am 68, and still in good health. I loved wilderness hunting out there. I hunted, so that I could do it with my boys. Something to teach them, do with them. Father and son. Funny, but my daughters wanted in on the action as well. I also built a 20' Simmon's Sea Skiff with them. Just because.

When my X abandoned our marriage (for all of her other lovers, over 200 men and women while married to me), I got pretty depressed and quit hunting. The bike (Lynda) in my avatar also helped lift my soul, as well as keep my sanity. Years later, after a LOT of couch time with my shrink, I was ready to pick up where I left off. Life happened, and I never got back out. Then retired, and moved back east to be closer to my kids, and never got back into it back here.

 

[RUN-8]

Sounds like you have about 201 two legged critters to fill tags on. Ha ha ha. Just kidding.

 

[flyingtrotter]

Uk is a little different - I do some driven game on Exmoor , up in N Wales (partridge and pheasant - used to do grouse) and some out of season clays

Have a matched pair of Perazzi 12 bore shotguns MX12 SC3 spec - went out to the factory to select the wood and be fitted - nice experience

The costs have continued to increase over here and it’s now a very expensive hobby especially at the high bird end of the market and hard to see it being sustainable long term - lot of regulatory encroachment but not to the degree they have in parts of the EU

 

[RUN-8]

Every time I read about or hear first hand accounts of what it’s like in the UK or EU I am thankful my ancestors decided to leave. Sorry you have to live in a totalitarian nanny state.

Nice shotguns though, a Perazzi is some serious coin in the US. I can only imagine how stupid expensive they are in the UK or EU with your taxes and fees for licensing.

 

[flyingtrotter]

Every time I read about or hear first hand accounts of what it’s like in the UK or EU I am thankful my ancestors decided to leave. Sorry you have to live in a totalitarian nanny state.

Nice shotguns though, a Perazzi is some serious coin in the US. I can only imagine how stupid expensive they are in the UK or EU with your taxes and fees for licensing.

Mmmmm - not thinking the issues are with gun licensing it’s about the constraints and costs on those that are running high end high bird shoots - prices keep going up - it’s now in the region of GBP 62-80 a bird - so 8 gun line and a 300 bird day is GBP2.5k ish and larger bag days can reach GBP 5k

There are moves to ban it on certain land owned by certain state connected actors particularly in Wales and regulate numbers of birds released and limited predator control - ban lead etc etc

Then we have other challenges for the rural economy and bird flu from other measures

That is all more of a threat to the game shooting sector than the approach to firearms licensing but that is also getting more expensive and problematic in some regions depending on the attitudes of the police

Lot of clay shooting grounds have closed but it’s still a fairly popular sport and operates separately to a degree from game shooting

I a, not across the rifle or pistol sports

 

[ultane]

Sounds like you have about 201 two legged critters to fill tags on. Ha ha ha. Just kidding.

Lots of paranoid ‘friends’ of mine.. they know I am good out to at least 600 yards..

They are not worth the price of the ammo. It is more satisfying to let them live in fear.

As for me, I learned a long time ago that to forgive is the only way to heal.

 

[FrankMk25226]

I shoot a pistol or two, maybe an AR every once in a while. My handle/forum signature is a play on my passion. Glad to see others here in the shooting world!