WookieBait
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Where are you getting 50 transmission failures? There's been people that have had their transmission fail and at any given point backorders were more than that on just the land cruiser. Not considering the other platforms.
Consumer Reports 2026 reliability scores are in ...
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You obviously don't understand how CR reports ratings work. One thing is the overall vehicle score based on usability, performance, reliability and owner satisfaction and anothet thing is the reliability score based on problems reported by owners. LC overall score is 59, while reliability score is 53. The first one is understandable based on the fact that LC is a pretty specialized vehicle. Reliability score is based entirely on problems. A good example of how CR scoring works is Rivian. It scores relatively high on overall score (62) in spite of having terrible reliability (29). LC scores bad on both.
Regarding number of provlems on NHTSA site - only a small percentage (maybe 1%) of owners take the time to fill out the forms on NHTSA site. 100 reports is a VERY high number, a tip of the iceberg.
How does brake squealing cause reliability issues?
Nice - I hope it’s a great vehicle for you!
I probably shouldn't let myself get drug into a keyboard debate, so I'll just say this. If you want to base your argument on my "obvious" understanding or not of anything, you've already lost the debate; stick to facts. My comment had nothing to do with reliability scores, instead focusing on their short review of the vehicle.
As far as NHTSA reporting, I hope you don't work with statistics for a living. Your quote of "maybe 1%" is vague to begin with, and is irrelevant to an assessment of the transmission. To be relevant we'd have to know what percentage of owners who experience the failure report to the NHTSA. The 1% (if accurate) could represent 95% of owners of experience failures, or 9%. There's simply no way to know.
We could compare to the V6 Engine issue, which as far as I can tell in a quick search showed about 2,500 reports to the NHTSA on that, but I'd argue that even with the differing production numbers, 50 is not in the same league...yet.
Just saying, if some of you were in my leadership team, I’d show you the door. The immaturity and overreactions to tiny elements of unverifiable data is astonishing.
Please don’t give me a bad performance evaluation mister leader
Thanks for making my point.
Sir, do you allow humor in your leadership leaders when they’re leading? (Im just joking around with you on a forum to talk trucks - please don’t fire me).
I only know my experience with Toyota, from my '68 Landcruiser, to my early eighties Celica, and now my '24 LC. The dealer fixed the brake squeal and that's the only thing that needed fixing. We're at about 9000 miles and 14 months ownership. I would buy one again in a heartbeat. And luckily, in my hometown, Lodi,CA, we are lucky to have a very honest service department at our local dealership. That was not the case with our Audi dealership experience. My wife couldn't wait to dump our '20 Audi S5 which we did right after warranty expired.
As far as off-road capability, the LC is probably overkill for us but so what. The LC is built like a tank and the engine and accessories are flawless. I don't pay much attention to magazine reviews. The reviewer was probably disappointed with the meal Toyota offered.
As far as off-road capability, the LC is probably overkill for us but so what. The LC is built like a tank and the engine and accessories are flawless. I don't pay much attention to magazine reviews. The reviewer was probably disappointed with the meal Toyota offered.
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If it's a problem that needs to be fixed, it goes into the CR survey results. Not as bad as a transmission failure sure,, but Toyota stalled way too long. If you ended up talking to one of their reps they probably told you (as they told me) to keep reporting the problem and eventually Toyota would fix it. So it's not surprising it showed up in the CR survey, that's a self inflicted wound on Toyota's part. And as I mentioned previously, CR's scoring doesn't appear to assign score weights according to seriousness, if you have to go to the dealer that's it. Next year's survey results won't take that hit since it's fixed now and after a couple more years the score will likely go up to Toyota's typical high level.
It it though? They are not even all transmission related. The 100 number you are referencing is for all powertrain related complaints. This includes engine, tcase, diffs as well. Plus half of those complaints are people venting about their dealer or complaining about things that are not failure related. There are things like “dealer changed oil now it is leaking oil” submitted there. As a comparison, Tundra has something like 600 powertrain related complaints.
We desperately need a sarcasm font. I've said it since the dawn of the intraweb. It's as if the name-less, face-less "they" who created it actually wanted these misunderstandings.
WookieBait
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Ah, I'd be curious what that's based off of. I see way too many random statistics and baseless numbers thrown around.
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Yeah, people are just mad about this result for some reason. It's ok to like something that isn't 100% reliability ratings.
Go to your nearest Toyota dealer - they have the parts to fix the brake squeal and it is at no cost to the Owner because there has been Service notice for this. I had my vehicle in for an oil and filter change and the dealer advised me that if I wanted they would fix the brakes at no cost to me and it was a quick fix. I am tired of hearing LC owners complain when it is a free and quick fix.
68.7% of all statistics are made up.
By next year is will be 78.6%
