Hmmm and the nineties paled in comparison to the prior 30 years........must be the crack pants
Who is REALLY responsible for the perceived decline in modern cars reliability
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Agree with you on the 60's and 70's music. Absolute talent. Many in the 80's as well. Started getting awful in the early 2000's and has continued downward ever since....
Rant - I'm fed up with modern automotive industry
OK. So this is just a pointless rant. Read it or ignore it. I'm totally fed up with modern car industry. It seems that no manufacturer cares about building a reasonably priced decent car. Everything I have owned or driven in the past 10 years or so has been an overpriced POS. Take my 2024 Toyota...
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Hay I resemble that statement!. Actually I had a RR Sport before my LC, I have to say it was the best car I ever had. But after 100K on the speedometer, the repairs are costly , for its size It’s about 1000lbs heavier than a comparable car , the brakes and tires need replacing more often. And the resale of that car was absolutely an embarrassment and insult to be honest. And the scheduled maintenance was ridiculous, I never left the dealership without paying over $2K And thats why I will not have one of them.
Hey, I resemble having to make that statement.
However, as a previous owner of three Range Rover Sports, I eventually switched to Land Cruiser and will never go back.
The Range Rover Sports were super sharp when they came out, however, it only took three of them for me to figure out what everyone else told me about them....
We have all gotten used to the fancy bells & whistles. Those things cost money. The government-mandated safety items cost money. The TPMS sensors, courtesy of Firestone, Ford Explorer, and drivers that didn't check tire pressures, cost money. So, to answer the question, government-mandates, lawsuits, insurance companies, and clueless drivers are why vehicles are more expensive than needed.
My wife and I have driven the "loaded" version of various cars we've owned over the past 25 years. Once you get used to premium features, you tend to want them. Our Land Cruiser is a 1958 model. Cloth, manual seats, manual rear hatch, dash lights you have to manually adjust for day or night, etc. None of the fancy stuff we've become accustomed to having. Frankly, it's like a blast from the past in many ways. Fortunately, and I say this as a former long-time SAAB owner, the LC has heated seats on the base version; I do have minimum requirements for a vehicle.
As for reliability, I grew up driving 1960's and 1970's BMWs, MGs, Alfa Romeos, Jeeps and SAABs. We even had a Series II Land Rover for a short time. Modern cars are stellar compared to those. In 2012 we switched from a Volvo Cross Country to a Ford Explorer, and we spent less money on maintenance in five-years of Explorer ownership than we'd spent in one year of Volvo ownership. The fact that the brake pads lasted more than 30,000 miles was mind-blowing.
Typically, people say they want less expensive vehicles and then they go and buy something tarted up. The manufacturers and dealers are mostly to blame. Ford introduced the inexpensive Maverick truck and couldn't keep the cheap version in stock, but they sure pushed the loaded versions that have more profit. Hey, it's only $34 a month more on your car payment, go for it!
While we're at it, does anyone really need a $1,000+ cellphone?
My wife and I have driven the "loaded" version of various cars we've owned over the past 25 years. Once you get used to premium features, you tend to want them. Our Land Cruiser is a 1958 model. Cloth, manual seats, manual rear hatch, dash lights you have to manually adjust for day or night, etc. None of the fancy stuff we've become accustomed to having. Frankly, it's like a blast from the past in many ways. Fortunately, and I say this as a former long-time SAAB owner, the LC has heated seats on the base version; I do have minimum requirements for a vehicle.
As for reliability, I grew up driving 1960's and 1970's BMWs, MGs, Alfa Romeos, Jeeps and SAABs. We even had a Series II Land Rover for a short time. Modern cars are stellar compared to those. In 2012 we switched from a Volvo Cross Country to a Ford Explorer, and we spent less money on maintenance in five-years of Explorer ownership than we'd spent in one year of Volvo ownership. The fact that the brake pads lasted more than 30,000 miles was mind-blowing.
Typically, people say they want less expensive vehicles and then they go and buy something tarted up. The manufacturers and dealers are mostly to blame. Ford introduced the inexpensive Maverick truck and couldn't keep the cheap version in stock, but they sure pushed the loaded versions that have more profit. Hey, it's only $34 a month more on your car payment, go for it!
While we're at it, does anyone really need a $1,000+ cellphone?
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