I am using Apple.
Apple Car Play with Toyota App Side Bar
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I am using Apple.
Gotcha, thanks for the quick reply! I'll see if I can maybe do some testing with an iPhone that I have around versus AA and see if there is anything special I find out. From what I've read and how AA works vs. CarPlay the AA may be limited since it takes over the whole display unit as a mirror this it doesn't allow other UI to show even though technically it should be able to do a split screen. Thanks again!
I’m not them, but I have a 2025, use Android Auto, and definitely do NOT have it
So took a few minutes this morning to play around with my LC and Android Auto and the iPhone I have with CarPlay.
TL;DR - Android Auto users we're out of luck thanks to Google's implementation of how Android Auto functions and takes over the whole display unit. CarPlay users should be able to have both the Toyota UI and the CarPlay integration because Apple actually spent time to implement their design and integration it seemed.
So I have a 2025 LC/LC w\ Premium package. I can confirm that the wireless Android Auto is working and that there is no side bar showing as others have mentioned here that are Android.
Connecting and setting up the iPhone that I have available I am able to access CarPlay both via USB-C cable and Wireless connection and have the Toyota UI show on the left hand side along with CarPlay active and functional and working as described/shown in the pictures that were originally posted.
Doing some sleuthing around the Internet and reading more into the difference of CarPlay vs. Android Auto they similar in nature of the implementation and functionality; HOWEVER CarPlay operates slightly differently than how Android Auto implements. See below quoted information that should explain the reason why CarPlay (iPhone) folks are able to see the Toyota UI vs. us Android Auto folks:
Unfortunately, for us Android Auto Folks we'll never get this functionality because Google handles the implement of Android Auto as a full blown control system and takes over the whole infotainment screen thus we are stuck with having to press the "Toyota" app button to exit AA and then return to the normal Toyota infotainment functions and control radio/SXM/etc.
Part no: 8610060610
SAM ID: CBAAAYFOJR
SCOMO ID: 21TNPNAC0011HU0000
Version: 2036
This information was what I pulled from the top part, it seems the different sections have similar information and maybe the version is slightly different, but maybe it will offer something to compare against, the top line of the "Model ID" was a specific reference to my VIN.
Hope this helps/gives folks some information/hope that are iPhone ecosystem users
.
TL;DR - Android Auto users we're out of luck thanks to Google's implementation of how Android Auto functions and takes over the whole display unit. CarPlay users should be able to have both the Toyota UI and the CarPlay integration because Apple actually spent time to implement their design and integration it seemed.
So I have a 2025 LC/LC w\ Premium package. I can confirm that the wireless Android Auto is working and that there is no side bar showing as others have mentioned here that are Android.
Connecting and setting up the iPhone that I have available I am able to access CarPlay both via USB-C cable and Wireless connection and have the Toyota UI show on the left hand side along with CarPlay active and functional and working as described/shown in the pictures that were originally posted.
Doing some sleuthing around the Internet and reading more into the difference of CarPlay vs. Android Auto they similar in nature of the implementation and functionality; HOWEVER CarPlay operates slightly differently than how Android Auto implements. See below quoted information that should explain the reason why CarPlay (iPhone) folks are able to see the Toyota UI vs. us Android Auto folks:
So essentially CarPlay has the ability to integrate much easier and better with manufacture's infotainment systems which is why when using CarPlay the Toyota UI is still able to show on the left hand side. I'm sure there is some setting to have ti show on either the left or right side of the screen I'd image depending on the driver's position of the car.
Unfortunately, for us Android Auto Folks we'll never get this functionality because Google handles the implement of Android Auto as a full blown control system and takes over the whole infotainment screen thus we are stuck with having to press the "Toyota" app button to exit AA and then return to the normal Toyota infotainment functions and control radio/SXM/etc.
Now I know this doesn't help full answer the reasoning as to why a 2025 model LC unit is showing the Toyota UI side bar and those that are reporting that their 2024 are not. My only suggestions to folks is to make sure that you have the latest iOS installed on your phone which I think is something like 18.2 as of the time of this posting and what was on the iPhone I tested with. If folks want to post model information of the infotainment systems I'm happy to double check my versions and see if they match up, here is basic information that you might be able to use to compare versions:
Part no: 8610060610
SAM ID: CBAAAYFOJR
SCOMO ID: 21TNPNAC0011HU0000
Version: 2036
This information was what I pulled from the top part, it seems the different sections have similar information and maybe the version is slightly different, but maybe it will offer something to compare against, the top line of the "Model ID" was a specific reference to my VIN.
Hope this helps/gives folks some information/hope that are iPhone ecosystem users
.
Question for everyone that has the side bar do you have the 12” or 8” display? I have a 1958 and only have the 8” screen and my LC was made in Sept and the bar is missing. I am wondering if it’s missing due to lack of screen real estate.
Sorry just getting back to this thread. I’m using Apple CarPlay. I have the premium trim on the 2025 with the 12” screen. iPhone side I just checked and running iOS 18.1.1.
i have the sidebar on my 1958 using carplay
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OP
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- #28
Updated to IOS 18.2, still no sidebar. Have tried both connected via USB and WiFi CarPlay…no go. The investigation continues.
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- #29
I never paid attention to my screen, until this thread so I went and checked. I have the side bar on mine. I purchased one of the very 1st FEs and have not uploaded or changed anything in the settings that I can remember.......
But the sidebar just seems to be additional carplay apps.
But the sidebar just seems to be additional carplay apps.
I traded in a 23 Lexus RX for my LC. On that vehicle, I had the same problem, no car play side bar. At some point, they released an OTA update and then I had it. So, I’m wondering if it’s a matter of which software was flashed on your vehicle. I don’t currently have the sidebar in my LC. I’m waiting for an update, hopefully soon!
I also have a FE and I don’t have the side bar on mine when using CarPlay with latest iOS version. I can only access it through the Toyota app.
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- #34
Yeah I don't have the Toyota bar. I thought it was nice that the Defender kept the bar over there. So much quicker to transition out of Carplay. Bronco has the Ford buttons on the bottom.
Not to go on a huge tangent, but I watching a review video and someone mentioned the Land Cruiser having Alexa. That got me searching the system. Of course I was disappointed. I didn't know that Toyota used some 3rd party integration at once. Asking the car random questions while driving is something I find myself doing here and there. Also being able to do some home commands from the car isn't a bad thing.
Not to go on a huge tangent, but I watching a review video and someone mentioned the Land Cruiser having Alexa. That got me searching the system. Of course I was disappointed. I didn't know that Toyota used some 3rd party integration at once. Asking the car random questions while driving is something I find myself doing here and there. Also being able to do some home commands from the car isn't a bad thing.
So took a few minutes this morning to play around with my LC and Android Auto and the iPhone I have with CarPlay.
TL;DR - Android Auto users we're out of luck thanks to Google's implementation of how Android Auto functions and takes over the whole display unit. CarPlay users should be able to have both the Toyota UI and the CarPlay integration because Apple actually spent time to implement their design and integration it seemed.
So I have a 2025 LC/LC w\ Premium package. I can confirm that the wireless Android Auto is working and that there is no side bar showing as others have mentioned here that are Android.
Connecting and setting up the iPhone that I have available I am able to access CarPlay both via USB-C cable and Wireless connection and have the Toyota UI show on the left hand side along with CarPlay active and functional and working as described/shown in the pictures that were originally posted.
Doing some sleuthing around the Internet and reading more into the difference of CarPlay vs. Android Auto they similar in nature of the implementation and functionality; HOWEVER CarPlay operates slightly differently than how Android Auto implements. See below quoted information that should explain the reason why CarPlay (iPhone) folks are able to see the Toyota UI vs. us Android Auto folks:
So essentially CarPlay has the ability to integrate much easier and better with manufacture's infotainment systems which is why when using CarPlay the Toyota UI is still able to show on the left hand side. I'm sure there is some setting to have ti show on either the left or right side of the screen I'd image depending on the driver's position of the car.
Unfortunately, for us Android Auto Folks we'll never get this functionality because Google handles the implement of Android Auto as a full blown control system and takes over the whole infotainment screen thus we are stuck with having to press the "Toyota" app button to exit AA and then return to the normal Toyota infotainment functions and control radio/SXM/etc.
Now I know this doesn't help full answer the reasoning as to why a 2025 model LC unit is showing the Toyota UI side bar and those that are reporting that their 2024 are not. My only suggestions to folks is to make sure that you have the latest iOS installed on your phone which I think is something like 18.2 as of the time of this posting and what was on the iPhone I tested with. If folks want to post model information of the infotainment systems I'm happy to double check my versions and see if they match up, here is basic information that you might be able to use to compare versions:
Part no: 8610060610
SAM ID: CBAAAYFOJR
SCOMO ID: 21TNPNAC0011HU0000
Version: 2036
This information was what I pulled from the top part, it seems the different sections have similar information and maybe the version is slightly different, but maybe it will offer something to compare against, the top line of the "Model ID" was a specific reference to my VIN.
Hope this helps/gives folks some information/hope that are iPhone ecosystem users
iPhone user here as well with the latest 18.2 installed and no side-bar. My version differs. From the top part:
Parts no: matches
SAM ID: CBAAANNYPE
SCOMO ID: matches
Version: 1810
I guess that's our answer.
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- Thread starter
- #36
My version shows 1810 as well…no sidebar. There’s the difference.
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- #38
Yesterday, I had my 5K oil change done at the dealership due to the cold weather.......Ouch! When I picked it up, the sidebar had disappeared and now I'm wondering if it has anything to do with sequence of the LC being started and ran without connecting to my iPhone/carplay. I have to run some errands today and I'll play around to see if it'll come back.
You may already know this, but the sidebar in question shows the Toyota menu items. Example - it shows the music symbol (♫) that one would select to change to a different music source, such as the radio.
We’re not talking about the vertical sidebar within CarPlay that shows a few of your most-recently used Apps. Everyone should have that.
I wondered the same thing as I can only find USB-C ports in my LC.
