1” taller rear springs

[cozen_cruiser250]

This is essentially the feedback I received from them. I carry 250-300lbs over the rear axle near consistently, plus the two 65-75lbs malinois often and the three kiddos occasionally. They pointed me to their 819V rated for 2” @ 200-400lbs. The problem is, sometimes I do remove weight for various reasons. I also never want 2” of lift back there, loaded or unloaded. I’m thinking of going with the 885V and seeing what happens. $300 is a drop in the bucket compared to what the coilovers and rear shocks are about to cost me. One big problem… I can’t find the 885s in stock anywhere.

I hear ya. Sold out everywhere. Odd that a product they themselves don’t even really recommend is so hard to find in stock.

I wonder if anyone is going to make something to fill this void. I would like to avoid a 1.5-2” lift. I might just have to throw some spacers on the rear until someone does.

 

[D-mac]

I wonder if anyone is going to make something to fill this void. I would like to avoid a 1.5-2” lift. I might just have to throw some spacers on the rear until someone does.

Radflo sells a rear only set of Eibach springs that claims 1.5” of lift, which seems low. There might be universal springs that could work too if you know what dimensions and rate you want.

 

[MSINAL]

This is essentially the feedback I received from them. I carry 250-300lbs over the rear axle near consistently, plus the two 65-75lbs malinois often and the three kiddos occasionally. They pointed me to their 819V rated for 2” @ 200-400lbs. The problem is, sometimes I do remove weight for various reasons. I also never want 2” of lift back there, loaded or unloaded. I’m thinking of going with the 885V and seeing what happens. $300 is a drop in the bucket compared to what the coilovers and rear shocks are about to cost me. One big problem… I can’t find the 885s in stock anywhere.

Did you consider lift bags in the stock springs?

 

[Sugarloafer80]

Newer tundra springs are one inch longer and they fit perfect in our LC.

See #2 above

 

[DubDub]

Did you consider lift bags in the stock springs?

As much time as I spend on sand and washed out roads I’d rather avoid anything rubber. Nothing against them having a use case, just don’t think it fits mine. I’ll probably just run the 6100/6110 setup at as close to stock ride height as possible until a legit spring option comes available. Maybe see if I can source a set of newer GX OT springs.

 

[cozen_cruiser250]

See #2 above

If you watch the install video the tundra springs end up lifting the rear about 1.75”

 

[jtr3737]

Radflo sells a rear only set of Eibach springs that claims 1.5” of lift, which seems low. There might be universal springs that could work too if you know what dimensions and rate you want.

What about Alldogs Spacer Eraser springs at 1.5" and upgrade the shocks (like Dobinsons twin tube)? That is my plan.

 

[D-mac]

What about Alldogs Spacer Eraser springs at 1.5" and upgrade the shocks (like Dobinsons twin tube)? That is my plan.

That spring set is not rear only like OP had wanted. The matched set like Bilstein would provide the most OEM like ride IMO.

 

[racer01]

I’ve also been looking for a minimal rear lift solution (1” or less) that can handle a little added weight. I called dobinsons and they said they can’t recommend their .5” rear lift springs for even my minimal constant added weight of 100lbs.

They said I should go the 2” lift springs with a higher spring rated for 200lbs.

How have yours held up and what are your thoughts?

It has been about a year now. Just re-measured and passenger rear is 23" from hub to fender and driver side is 22.75" hub to fender. Puts it just slightly higher than the 22" I have in the front with 1.5" level kit.
I have a new Tundra so haven't really put any significant weight in the back of the LC either before or after to honestly give input on how much better (if at all) the springs handle a load. They ride just like stock and looking at stock hub to fender measurements on the internet (I see 22.5" as stock) they do seem to really add very minimal height.

They ride just like stock and are an easy install but if I did it again I might go with the 0.6" spacers that Dobinson sells instead for my use case as I don't have much payload need.

I am going through the same process on my TRD Pro Tundra and got Eibach 1.5" front springs paired with 1" Dobinsons (with 0-110 lbs static extra weight) ready to go on. Too bad they don't currently offer a 1" spring for the LC.....seems like a sweet spot for paring with a front level kit and/or adding some cargo capacity headroom.

I'd definitely be hesitant about the 2" springs at least based on my Tundra research. At 2" it adds too much rake unloaded for me and starts to get into suspension geometry changes I didn't like.

 

[cozen_cruiser250]

It has been about a year now. Just re-measured and passenger rear is 23" from hub to fender and driver side is 22.75" hub to fender. Puts it just slightly higher than the 22" I have in the front with 1.5" level kit.
I have a new Tundra so haven't really put any significant weight in the back of the LC either before or after to honestly give input on how much better (if at all) the springs handle a load. They ride just like stock and looking at stock hub to fender measurements on the internet (I see 22.5" as stock) they do seem to really add very minimal height.

They ride just like stock and are an easy install but if I did it again I might go with the 0.6" spacers that Dobinson sells instead for my use case as I don't have much payload need.

I am going through the same process on my TRD Pro Tundra and got Eibach 1.5" front springs paired with 1" Dobinsons (with 0-110 lbs static extra weight) ready to go on. Too bad they don't currently offer a 1" spring for the LC.....seems like a sweet spot for paring with a front level kit and/or adding some cargo capacity headroom.

I'd definitely be hesitant about the 2" springs at least based on my Tundra research. At 2" it adds too much rake unloaded for me and starts to get into suspension geometry changes I didn't like.

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah the 2” springs are definitely out for me. I don’t have the height clearance nor the need for that much constant load on a daily basis.

After speaking to a different rep on the phone, I ended up ordering the Eibach shocks for the rear to match my Eibach coilovers in the front. And I ordered the .5” lift springs + the .5” spacers from Dobinsons. My constant load will be somewhere around 80lbs.

They said the .5” springs are stock spring rate but progressive. So it may compress half an inch or so with a slight load but stiffen up under a heavier load to reduce sag when I go camping. I guess we’ll find out. I’m not going to install the spacers just yet. Gonna try just the springs first.

 

[Blue Sky]

FWIW, I believe the 4Runner Trailhunter rear coils will give you ~.75” lift and progressive spring curve.

I will be doing these to complete my Trailhunter build when the next Toyota parts sale pops up.

• Rear Right (Passenger Side): 48231-60N70
• Rear Left (Driver Side): 48231-60N60

Further confirmation needed. PLS disregard until part number and lift increase are confirmed.

 

[DubDub]

FWIW, I believe the 4Runner Trailhunter rear coils will give you ~.75” lift and progressive spring curve.

I will be doing these to complete my Trailhunter build when the next Toyota parts sale pops up.

• Rear Right (Passenger Side): 48231-60N70
• Rear Left (Driver Side): 48231-60N60

I will look into this. There have been a lot of complaints about trailhunter rear suspension load handling characteristics though so I suggest some critical review watching

 

[sweet5ltr]

FWIW, I believe the 4Runner Trailhunter rear coils will give you ~.75” lift and progressive spring curve.

I will be doing these to complete my Trailhunter build when the next Toyota parts sale pops up.

• Rear Right (Passenger Side): 48231-60N70
• Rear Left (Driver Side): 48231-60N60

I will look into this. There have been a lot of complaints about trailhunter rear suspension load handling characteristics though so I suggest some critical review watching

I watched Ryan's review the other day (Driving Sports TV) and he was not impressed with the 4R TH OME suspension.

Maybe BlueSky has more info on this going all OME+ parts.

 

[DubDub]

I watched Ryan's review the other day (Driving Sports TV) and he was not impressed with the 4R TH OME suspension.

Maybe BlueSky has more info on this going all OME+ parts.

Independence Overland (IMO the most underrated overlanding channel out there, with amazing cinematography) is super critical of the TH as well, and he purchased one for that express purpose.

 

[Blue Sky]

I watched Ryan's review the other day (Driving Sports TV) and he was not impressed with the 4R TH OME suspension.

Maybe BlueSky has more info on this going all OME+ parts.

I actually watched that one!

Cliff notes: 100% agree with his take-away.

However, I do disagree w/your impression. I think the Trailhunter suspension rides amazing.

The problem is that it is, by design, limited to a 895lbs load capacity. And that sucks. I think that was the major and valid criticism that Ryan pointed out.

As for me, I am chasing a super-lite rig mostly relying on pop-up tents and shelters. So for my intended use, hoping the TH suspension works out to a positive gain.

 

[sweet5ltr]

I actually watched that one!

Cliff notes: 100% agree with his take-away.

However, I do disagree w/your impression. I think the Trailhunter suspension rides amazing.

The problem is that it is, by design, limited to a 895lbs load capacity. And that sucks. I think that was the major and valid criticism that Ryan pointed out.

As for me, I am chasing a super-lite rig mostly relying on pop-up tents and shelters. So for my intended use, hoping the TH suspension works out to a positive gain.

Oh I had no impressions, he mentioned it bottomed out a bit, I wasn't sure if that was due to the rear coil spring rate or the OME rear shock.

 

[DubDub]

Has anyone run, or willing to tag in someone you know has run the ARB 3338 2”/0lb or Eibach Pro-Lift-Kit 1.5”/0lb rear springs? I’m trying to get an idea of 1) ride quality/dampening, 2) load response with less than the next-in-series (~450lbs) loading, and 3) final lift height in rear post settling.

I’m full send on the 6100/6112 Bilstein kit, but hate mix-matching components. Dobinsons doesn’t want to stand behind their .5” spring so I need an alternative.

 

[cozen_cruiser250]

FWIW, I believe the 4Runner Trailhunter rear coils will give you ~.75” lift and progressive spring curve.

I will be doing these to complete my Trailhunter build when the next Toyota parts sale pops up.

• Rear Right (Passenger Side): 48231-60N70
• Rear Left (Driver Side): 48231-60N60

I got excited when reading this but then I doubled checked with a google search and this came up. Are you sure about these numbers?

 

[Blue Sky]

I got excited when reading this but then I doubled checked with a google search and this came up. Are you sure about these numbers?

Definitely not sure. I should have waited until I mount these up and gotten some miles on them before I posted.
Without having the spring rate and free height of the TH coils, I cannot be sure.
I don't want to mislead you. I will confirm once I have them mounted up.

*Edit(With the TH front coilovers mounted, I saw about a 1.25" lift gain up front.)