Thinking of Trading LC First Edition for LX 700h Overtrail

See, we do agree on a lot of stuff. Glad you are finally seeing my sarcastic side....LC250 is a shocking success for Toyota, no doubt. Folks that are conquest sales like myself out of uber specced vehicles is telling, no? I have experienced that realm and feel comfortable letting go of it....just don't diss my Alfas.
 
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See, we do agree on a lot of stuff. Glad you are finally seeing my sarcastic side....LC250 is a shocking success for Toyota, no doubt. Folks like Conquest sales like myself out of uber specced vehicles is telling, no? I have experienced that realm and feel comfortable letting go of it....just don't diss my Alfas.
I love an Alfa. They’re beautiful! Never had one though.
 
Total drivers cars. My 4C is an evil bitch and the Stelvio Quad has few cars to compare with. Germany's only answer is throw HP at their overweight sausages.......they feel dull in comparison. Thanks for the compliment. Bella is my avatar
 
I dated a woman who worked at a Toyota dealership (internet sales/marketing, this is the early 2000-teens) and she got sneaky and put in a request for an allotment (Toyota dealers cannot order vehicles) of a LC200 that was coming in (they can see how many are on the ship). They came in batches. The sales manager goes ballistic, "we will never sell this thing! This thing is like $80k" (fwiw, there was a pretty large mark up on the LC's).

So I go to pick her up for lunch and the manager corners me about buying it, he flat out tells me he won't sell it for invoice. I tell him to GF'd. Some doctor bought it before it even arrived, full MSRP, and terrible financing (guy had horrible credit). Yeah, they don't sell lol. I never liked the LX version, or anything out of Lexus, the GX460 and 550 are winners though.

I got to TD it, just around the block. Then I TD another in 2019, still didn't like it. Overseas, they are fantastic, I'm sure other parts of the US they are fantastic... DD in FL, not fantastic lol. Savage Geese has a pretty good YT review of the LC200, they are spot on. I still want one, but not for the going prices. The 4R and LC250 are much better vehicles for the US market.

A buddy in Thailand just bought a 300, there is a substantial wait for them. I think he may have changed his mind to a Hilux.

Long winded, off tangent post aside, Toyota knew the market and made sure not to bring in more than they knew they could sell. They may have not even had the ability to manufacture more for the US market anyway. You can't throw a rock in Africa or the ME w/o hitting a LC200.
 
Anyone can post a poll…

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The same idea has crossed my mind. If the Lexus interior space was substantively larger, then maybe....but it's not really
 
I wanted to reach out out to everyone here for some advice. I have an allocation and the opportunity to purchase a new 2025 Lexus 700h Overtrail. This would be a replacement for my 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser First Edition.

I have absolutely loved the Land Cruiser and it has given me nearly 15,000 trouble free miles. I purchased the Land Cruiser because I wanted an extremely reliable vehicle that was equally comfortable and capable on-road and off-road in the inland Pacific Northwest (eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana, etc.). As I've mentioned in previous posts the only modification I have made to the vehicle is fitting it with LT275/65R18/E 123/120S RWL BFG KO3s, which are delivering excellent all around performance.

I don't have many complaints about the Land Cruiser, so you might be wondering why I'm even contemplating this change. What's intriguing to me is the opportunity to own the US Version of the Land Cruiser 300 series and hopefully what would be a heavy duty / hyper-reliable vehicle built to last 250K+ miles. I love the hybrid system in the Land Cruiser, and Lexus has appeared to deliver an even more robust / reliable power unit that's capable of functioning solely on the ICE in the event the hybrid system fails. I like the idea of having three locking differentials (center, front, & rear), although admittedly the front locker would probably be a seldom used feature but would be nice to have in extreme circumstances should they arise. I also really like the additional luxury that the LX 700h offers, but this isn't the primary reason for making the change although it would be welcome on long road trips.

The one thing that I don't love about the LX 700h is the exterior styling, specifically the front end (i.e., grill). I prefer the styling and resulting approach angle of the Land Cruiser by a wide margin.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
I'd go for it! The Lexus seems more robust in a few critical ways you've outlined! Keep us posted!
 
if you've never had a lex LC, consider the move very carefully. I couldn't tell myself it was 'just a 100' when I had my LX. just bugged me all the badging. personal hang up. if you may have it, be forewarned that for some (me) it did not ever wane. food for thought.
 
if you've never had a lex LC, consider the move very carefully. I couldn't tell myself it was 'just a 100' when I had my LX. just bugged me all the badging. personal hang up. if you may have it, be forewarned that for some (me) it did not ever wane. food for thought.
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if you've never had a lex LC, consider the move very carefully. I couldn't tell myself it was 'just a 100' when I had my LX. just bugged me all the badging. personal hang up. if you may have it, be forewarned that for some (me) it did not ever wane. food for thought.
Welcome to the asylum.
 
This would be a massive upgrade, you know that already.
And you could do us the service of giving us feedback?
 
I was just at the Lexus dealer today because I was curious about the LX700h OT but they only had the Luxury trim in and it was a beautiful truck but it had 22" wheels and it was massive. Also, only the OT comes with front and rear lockers.
I don't think I would feel comfortable driving something that big and that expensive on a trail....ever. It was cool to see it in person because it popped the G.A.S. bubble that was being created in my psyche. It is a very nice truck but for me the LCFE is great for my needs and use. It's also about $40k less expensive than the LX. But hey, everyone needs to get what works for them. I would drive the LC300 version for sure and probably would have considered purchasing one had they been available. But I'm good with my Prado. 😂
 
I wanted to reach out out to everyone here for some advice. I have an allocation and the opportunity to purchase a new 2025 Lexus 700h Overtrail. This would be a replacement for my 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser First Edition.

I have absolutely loved the Land Cruiser and it has given me nearly 15,000 trouble free miles. I purchased the Land Cruiser because I wanted an extremely reliable vehicle that was equally comfortable and capable on-road and off-road in the inland Pacific Northwest (eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana, etc.). As I've mentioned in previous posts the only modification I have made to the vehicle is fitting it with LT275/65R18/E 123/120S RWL BFG KO3s, which are delivering excellent all around performance.

I don't have many complaints about the Land Cruiser, so you might be wondering why I'm even contemplating this change. What's intriguing to me is the opportunity to own the US Version of the Land Cruiser 300 series and hopefully what would be a heavy duty / hyper-reliable vehicle built to last 250K+ miles. I love the hybrid system in the Land Cruiser, and Lexus has appeared to deliver an even more robust / reliable power unit that's capable of functioning solely on the ICE in the event the hybrid system fails. I like the idea of having three locking differentials (center, front, & rear), although admittedly the front locker would probably be a seldom used feature but would be nice to have in extreme circumstances should they arise. I also really like the additional luxury that the LX 700h offers, but this isn't the primary reason for making the change although it would be welcome on long road trips.

The one thing that I don't love about the LX 700h is the exterior styling, specifically the front end (i.e., grill). I prefer the styling and resulting approach angle of the Land Cruiser by a wide margin.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
You might consider doing more research on the V6 Twin Turbo due to engine failure risks. While a separate major engine bearing recall covers 2022–2024 LX models. The twin turbo V6 appears to have issues across a lot of platforms including the LX, GX, and Tundra.

The GX and the LX share the same powertrain, both use a 3.4L twin-turbo V6 (often referred to as a V35A-FTS).

I was on the fense between a 2024 Lexus GX550 Overtrail plus and a 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser, the issues with the V35A-FTS was a big factor in my decision to choose the Land Cruiser.
 
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