Thinking of Trading LC First Edition for LX 700h Overtrail

[Sugarloafer80]

I would need think twice of taking such an expensive luxury SUV.
Quote @ Blue Bear mentioning " Are you really going to take your $115K LX on those kinds of trails? Any kind of trails at all?

Not like its a Range Rover

 

[sleeoffroad]

The front end can be fixed. This is our LX600 and we are working on the same bumper for the LX700h. Some minor differences but we will be offering this for in shop install and purchase over the counter for other shops or DIY install.

 

[Sugarloafer80]

Sorry but Lexus styling esp the front end has hurt sales more than they will ever admit. I am adamently in that camp.

 

[Truckee]

This board is pretty much "looks/appearance" is first priority. I question their thought processes. I almost bought an Alfa Romeo Giulia, not for it's looks... because it isn't a great looking car.

 

[LandCruiserFE]

Well, I made the decision to stick with my Land Cruiser First Edition and gave up the allocation for the LX700h Overtrail.

After further reflection, I came to the conclusion that my interest in the LX700h Overtrail was mostly about the opportunity to own the available U.S. variant of the Land Cruiser 300.

While I very much appreciate the hyper-reliability and durability of the LX, the fact of the matter is my current Land Cruiser meets all my current needs and it has never let me down.

I truly appreciate the form and function of the Land Cruiser and, at least for the time being, am incredibly satisfied with it as a daily driver.

Thanks for the input and for indulging my momentary lapse of reason.

If you’re still interested in a front locker. ARB USA released one for the LC250. I’ll be getting one installed once the warranty on my FE is done.

 

[Sugarloafer80]

This board is pretty much "looks/appearance" is first priority. I question their thought processes. I almost bought an Alfa Romeo Giulia, not for it's looks... because it isn't a great looking car.

Wow, to me its is the best looking sedan on the market. Italians know style . Germans do not. Mechanically, my Alfas are the closest driving experience to my Lotus which is on a level few can match regardless of price. Granted, sedans are useless to me in 2025.

 

[Sugarloafer80]

Regarding only 2100 LC units brought in that last year. As Toyota has shown with the new LC250, they will make and bring in as many as demand needs, thus the reason so many of us are waiting for our deliveries.
Few wanted the last one. A BIG reason it was one of the thirstiest SUVs on the road and with gas prices all over the map, that era is on the way out. It had abilities but those buyers did not need or use them esp taking the kids to soccer...............even the Range Rovers of that era had become significantly more efficient.
Toyota did their homework and demand has proven them correct.

 

[Truckee]

For me, one of the appeals of the Alfa Giulia Quadrofoglio was its relative rarity. I also like the BMW M Coupe Clown shoe cars.

The TTV6 gets a decent bump in fuel economy over the outgoing V8. If both were available on the 250, it would be interesting to know the split in sales/demand.

 

[Lemo]

Well, I made the decision to stick with my Land Cruiser First Edition and gave up the allocation for the LX700h Overtrail.

After further reflection, I came to the conclusion that my interest in the LX700h Overtrail was mostly about the opportunity to own the available U.S. variant of the Land Cruiser 300.

While I very much appreciate the hyper-reliability and durability of the LX, the fact of the matter is my current Land Cruiser meets all my current needs and it has never let me down.

I truly appreciate the form and function of the Land Cruiser and, at least for the time being, am incredibly satisfied with it as a daily driver.

Thanks for the input and for indulging

Well, I made the decision to stick with my Land Cruiser First Edition and gave up the allocation for the LX700h Overtrail.

After further reflection, I came to the conclusion that my interest in the LX700h Overtrail was mostly about the opportunity to own the available U.S. variant of the Land Cruiser 300.

While I very much appreciate the hyper-reliability and durability of the LX, the fact of the matter is my current Land Cruiser meets all my current needs and it has never let me down.

I truly appreciate the form and function of the Land Cruiser and, at least for the time being, am incredibly satisfied with it as a daily driver.

Thanks for the input and for indulging my momentary lapse of reason.

Good call. The 600/700s are too nondescript (except for the ugly front)looking for me. Not sure yet if it’s appropriate to say the lx is more reliable than a 250. Time will tell.

 

[what_have_they_done]

Sorry but Lexus styling esp the front end has hurt sales more than they will ever admit. I am adamently in that camp.

How could you ever possibly know this?

 

[what_have_they_done]

This board is pretty much "looks/appearance" is first priority. I question their thought processes. I almost bought an Alfa Romeo Giulia, not for it's looks... because it isn't a great looking car.

Its actually an excellent car with great software and inputs. I drove diesel one from north to south Italy, filled it up only 3 times in two weeks, very good car.

 

[what_have_they_done]

Well, I made the decision to stick with my Land Cruiser First Edition and gave up the allocation for the LX700h Overtrail.

After further reflection, I came to the conclusion that my interest in the LX700h Overtrail was mostly about the opportunity to own the available U.S. variant of the Land Cruiser 300.

While I very much appreciate the hyper-reliability and durability of the LX, the fact of the matter is my current Land Cruiser meets all my current needs and it has never let me down.

I truly appreciate the form and function of the Land Cruiser and, at least for the time being, am incredibly satisfied with it as a daily driver.

Thanks for the input and for indulging my momentary lapse of reason.

Bummer, 250 drives like tin can crosstrek and 700h drives like a cruiser.

 

[Lemo]

Bummer, 250 drives like tin can crosstrek and 700h drives like a cruiser.

Interesting take. Does a 70 Series drive like a Cruiser?

 

[Sugarloafer80]

Seems you have feelings to the contrary. no one said it wasn't mechanically great. Sweet babe with nasty looks even tattoos can't hide

 

[Sugarloafer80]

Bummer, 250 drives like tin can crosstrek and 700h drives like a cruiser.

So you like the new age jumbo cruiser better than the original?
I honestly think my statement is extremely valid. Do you know anyone that thinks it has helped sales?

 

[Truckee]

Dissent prefers the new age jumbo cruiser.... (32:50)

 

[bluebullet]

GX550s seem to be rare at the Spokane dealer from what I hear from a sales lady there. If you want a 300, go for the Lexus.

 

[Sugarloafer80]

Cargo area alone is a deal breaker on the 300 version. Can't upset the guy that loaned it to you.......

 

[Truckee]

If one were to actually remove the 3rd row seat, it would likely have very similar cargo space as a 250. Don't understand the loan comment. That LX belongs to him.

 

[Sugarloafer80]

If one were to actually remove the 3rd row seat, it would likely have very similar cargo space as a 250. Don't understand the loan comment. That LX belongs to him.

I did not know that, but it wouldn't change anything in my eyes. Logic dictates he will stand by his choice. I always thought the 190-195in max zone was the sweet spot size wise. My single biggest concession on my LC250 will be the weight but it's the same sad story everywhere.
Notice my sig. 2 are under 3k lbs, one is soon to be under 3100lbs, and Stelvio is lightest in its class by a lot at the same time, it has

a lot more ponies.. looking at you Macan, rhymes with bacon. Just having some fun here. Back in the day my 1994 Montero SR was right sized, but 15mlg was bout as good as you got. Put in 4wd and you'd be in the 12mpg zone.. times have changed!