Pic request of 20” wheels with AT’s?

[LChomie]

Any benefit that can be explained which size would be better 275/65/20 or 275/65/20?? I know "better' is subjective. To narrow the conversation, better in terms of fit stock, no lift/spacer, etc. and no rubbing.

V/R!

275/60/20 gets you 1/2 inch further away from rubbing in the wheel well.

275/65/20 gets you 1/2 inch further away from the ground (clearance).

I think a lot of us are watching this thread to get a feel for whether we can get the extra ground clearance without having to worry about rubbing. If I'm reading things right it sounds like 275/65/20 doesn't rub and most people are doing lifts for reasons other than to prevent rubbing.

It sounds like maybe 285/65/20 is the tipping point where a lift is necessary to prevent rubbing. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[DLOne]

275/60/20 gets you 1/2 inch further away from rubbing in the wheel well.

275/65/20 gets you 1/2 inch further away from the ground (clearance).

I think a lot of us are watching this thread to get a feel for whether we can get the extra ground clearance without having to worry about rubbing. If I'm reading things right it sounds like 275/65/20 doesn't rub and most people are doing lifts for reasons other than to prevent rubbing.

It sounds like maybe 285/65/20 is the tipping point where a lift is necessary to prevent rubbing. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Great points, thank you. I am leaning toward 275/65/20s. Just hesitant to pull the trigger.

 

[KPHAM]

No rub or modifications after the Westcott lift/leveling kit. The dealer told me there was slight rub but I've had this on for 12 months maybe and I have yet to notice in any driving condition...I also visually inspected a few times and nothing so not sure what the dealer was talking about

Does your spare fit?

 

[PaulP]

Does your spare fit?

I don’t have one this size but my research indicates it does not

 

[Altitude]

The dynamic

I'm really liking the OEM 20" wheels with A/T'S. I think I might prefer them to the 18s at least lately!

This is an enthusiast forum with a lot of off-road interest. But really, 20-inch wheels are the better choice for most of us who use the vehicle primarily as a high-speed, long-distance SUV with occasional off-road use.

Smaller wheels make sense for extreme off-roading, but for real-world mixed driving, 20s offer better stability, steering precision, and overall refinement without meaningfully limiting capability.

 

[vcs111]

Hey Mitch,
I didn't use a wheel spacer for my BFG K03 275/65/20's. There's about 1/2-3/4" clearance on the fender liner with my new tires, so a 285 might be too close? I got my tires from Discount Tires, I would guess they would mount a 285 and see if it clears...using pretty please might help

A wheel spacer might have (no proof here) cause rubbing issues on the outside of the tire. I also don't care for the look of tires outside the fenders or the function of throwing rocks down the side of the rig. MHO.

I had no rubbing issues with the stock front end set up, I just didn't care for the raked profile of the rig. I did have the front end aligned after installing the 1" front spacers (which yield a 1.5" lift) and it was off enough to cause tire wear issues long term. The rig sits at 28" inches to the top of each wheel opening arch. It was 26.5 front and 28" back.

I hope this helps...and don't forget to rent/buy a spring compressor to help rotate the top plate into the new position (about 25 degrees) so the shock tower mount at the bottom lines up on the pin.

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I have the same set up without any lift. No rubbing or other issues.

 

[vcs111]

I don’t have one this size but my research indicates it does not

Spare fits fine.

 

[cruiserguySC]

I’ve looked at every tire and wheel thread there is over the last few weeks. I know there are a few 20” wheel post with a pic, but most are buried in large threads or the few that are running the 20” wheel mention it and are without a pic. I really like the 20” wheels and for my future use case, they will be fine. Only planning on light off-road/camping and 95% highway use.

That said, I’d like to see some different pics to help me decide on a 265 vs 275 tire. Would love to see those who are out there running the 20” wheel with AT tires post a pic and state the tire size. I will likely go with the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Ascents, but regardless of what tire you have chosen it would be nice to see some examples in the same thread with the stock 265 vs. slightly larger 275. I am leaning towards staying with the 265 unless it’s significantly better looking with the 275.

Thanks for participating

 

[Bucky Badger]

BFG KO3s in 275/60-20. I run them at 40 psi. The ride is much improved with the slightly taller sidewall. Mileage penalty is minimal so far. Maybe 1 mpg. Could not be happier with this upgrade from the stock Geolanders.

Looks great! Any update on performance of these tires? I too want to upgrade from the stock Dunlop and really like the stock 20" rims.
No lift on this correct? Thanks much!!

 

[Mrpapageorgio]

Hey guys! First post here after reading through all of these wheel postings, I went with 275/60/20 in the K03's. Love the look, put them at 40 PSI after reading, will let you know how it goes. I live in SF and do mostly city driving but wanted something that could tackle some moderate trails and the Tahoe ski trips in the winter. Heard these may not be the best in snow, but assuming they are still much better than the stock geolanders...

 

[wwoodywood]

I couldn’t stand the 20” rims that came with my wife’s LC because the car is almost totally black, but the premium wheels were more gunmetal or gray. After 20,000 miles I finally pulled the trigger and got these 20” TRD wheels and tires off of a 1794 Sequoia. I would have preferred 18s from the TRD Pro Tundra/Sequoia, or the 18s on the Tacomas/4Runners, but for the price (and the zero percent chance she ever does any off roading), I really think these 20s are a great option on black and/or white LCs.

 

[GR8Santini]

Does your spare fit?

Yes - 275/60R20 fits up in spare well under the vehicle.

 

[GoodNewsEveryone]

I couldn’t stand the 20” rims that came with my wife’s LC because the car is almost totally black, but the premium wheels were more gunmetal or gray. After 20,000 miles I finally pulled the trigger and got these 20” TRD wheels and tires off of a 1794 Sequoia. I would have preferred 18s from the TRD Pro Tundra/Sequoia, or the 18s on the Tacomas/4Runners, but for the price (and the zero percent chance she ever does any off roading), I really think these 20s are a great option on black and/or white LCs.
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Looks good. I'm in the same position and hate the factory 20". I would prefer 18" wheels from Tundra/ Sequoia, 4R, or Tacoma, but there aren't many around that I like on the secondhand market. I wasn't considering 20" but those are nice with ATs.

 

[PirateCircus]

For those who have the 275/65/20 KO3 or AT4W, how is the ride on E load tires compared to stock? And it seems like noise isn't bad with this latest gen of AT tires?

 

[Matthew@LC250Mods]

For those who have the 275/65/20 KO3 or AT4W, how is the ride on E load tires compared to stock? And it seems like noise isn't bad with this latest gen of AT tires?

Noise isn't bad at all but the ride will be noticeably more harsh with an E load especially on 20" wheels. To some this feels more solid and is worth it and to others this will feel uncomfortable. I fall in the latter camp.

 

[PirateCircus]

Noise isn't bad at all but the ride will be noticeably more harsh with an E load especially on 20" wheels. To some this feels more solid and is worth it and to others this will feel uncomfortable. I fall in the latter camp.

Makes sense--thinking I may size down to the 275/60 get a slight break in the D load.

 

[Matthew@LC250Mods]

Makes sense--thinking I may size down to the 275/60 get a slight break in the D load.

IMO it will be very worth it. Each load rating comes with a noticeable tradeoff in ride quality. I've never personally run D's but C's are a complete non-issue and E's are not for me lol

 

[GR8Santini]

What Matt said! 20” rim is pretty heavy & adding LT tire you will feel the weight in acceleration & braking. Was on Discount tire site few months back shopping & saw BFG had a new tire coming out this summer called Trail Terrain that peaked my interest. Just might be my next set in hopefully 50-60K miles if the Wildpeaks hold up.

Midway between street & AT tread pattern, $280, 46#, rated to 118mph, XL rated.

Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

www.discounttire.com

 

[CO_Hawk]

What Matt said! 20” rim is pretty heavy & adding LT tire you will feel the weight in acceleration & braking. Was on Discount tire site few months back shopping & saw BFG had a new tire coming out this summer called Trail Terrain that peaked my interest. Just might be my next set in hopefully 50-60K miles if the Wildpeaks hold up.
Midway between street & AT tread pattern, $280, 46#, rated to 118mph, XL rated.

Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

www.discounttire.com

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Regarding the trail terrain t/a's, these have been out for several years. I had these on my 2017 Armada for about 25k miles, I was happy when my son ran over a landscaping stake and I had a reeason to get rid of them. If you look at the edges of the tread, they are solid. In dry conditions, they were fine and actually quiet, but in rain or slushy snow, there is no place for the water to escape, so they are very prone to hydroplaning. I almost got in 2 accidents because of it, fortunately I regained grip just in time to avoid guard rails going around a curve.

 

[PirateCircus]

What Matt said! 20” rim is pretty heavy & adding LT tire you will feel the weight in acceleration & braking. Was on Discount tire site few months back shopping & saw BFG had a new tire coming out this summer called Trail Terrain that peaked my interest. Just might be my next set in hopefully 50-60K miles if the Wildpeaks hold up.

Midway between street & AT tread pattern, $280, 46#, rated to 118mph, XL rated.

Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

www.discounttire.com

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I've looked into the Wilpeaks in SL load as well as the Open Country and Terragrapplers. Wasn't sure if I should do SL with how rocky the (even easy) trails seem to be here in the Uintas.

I am new to the AT world after spending most of my life tinkering with German cars so I appreciate all the feedback!