New from UK

Yes it’s much better to drive very quiet compared to a 150 and corners much better I haven’t really tested it of road yet as I’m waiting for tyres but it has done all the normal off road stuff my 150 does perfectly. I was worried about the loss of the kdss but I can’t notice it .The lack of storage in the cab is a bit of a challenge.. Remembering to switch the RSA to visual only each time you start it is a bit of a pain . Alternatively I could just drive more slowly !
Is there no work around for the RSA reset?
 
Evening all.

I'm reaching the point where I'm looking to change my 2014 Land Rover Discovery SDV6. It's been, by far, my favourite car, but the maintenance bill is starting to rack up and is only going to get more expensive. The obvious option is Defender; but having said that, I'm not a massive fan of JLR's reliability, warranty, etc., and I'm very much considering an LC250 Invincible. It ticks a lot of the boxes for, reliability, tech, capability etc. We live in a small village in the middle of the countryside - nothing too challenging, but equally it does see mud and snow on its boots as well as tarmac.

I had hoped for a petrol hybrid, but it looks like the 48V might scratch that itch. From what I can see, it looks like the first half of 2026 for availability, although it's unclear how many Toyota will allocate to the UK. Of course, by then, there will likely be some First Editions or early cars coming up on the used market. A 1-2 year old model could be a nice option, having been run in but missing the 48V (which seems to be a matter of debate if that's a good or bad thing).

Just thought I'd say hello, do some reading and look for any advice, comments, "I should have got/done that" experiences and realistic views on what lead times are going to be like,

Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself.
Tim
 
Welcome Tim. If you want a proper country large 4x4 then it’s Discovery, Defender or Land Cruiser.
I’m on my 5th LC and 100’s of 1000’s miles later we’ve not had a single fault - not something many Land Rover owners can say. Only last night I got a lift in a friend’s new Defender, only it wasn’t his, it was a courtesy car because his brand new Discovery had already broken down. It was a great car except earlier that day he’d had to stop mid-trip to turn off and restart so the radio and information screen would work. I could go on about the many other friends who have had Disco 5 engines replaced and that’s not funny if you’re out of warranty. There’s a reason you get 10 years with LC’s here.
You will love the honesty of the LC. It’s not trying to be flash, it just does what it says on the tin. It won’t let you down, is way cheaper to service and the residual values are fantastic.
I would be the first to say the previous models were a little plasticky inside but the new 250 is a really comfortable and pleasant place to be - so much better than the old ones. The new shape is awesome and with so few in the UK, it’s an exclusive club.
My only gripe is the slightly agricultural diesel engine which is straight out of the old car / the Hilux. It’s a bit noisy and not particularly fast which is where JLR products win but only when they are working! All in all, it’s a small compromise on what’s a pretty compelling package otherwise. I can’t speak for what the petrol hybrid would be like but I’d worry about battery issues further down the line and at least you know what you’re getting with the diesel and that’s what Land Cruisers are all about.
Good luck with the search and I hope you take the LC plunge as you won’t regret it.
 
I wouldn’t recommend the diesel hybrid. In 7,000 km, I have seen no benefit to the system. It never does anything at all, only an occasional change in the battery indicators. It just takes up space and add complexity that we don’t need- unless you like start-stop.
 
Save for the attempted theft my 8,500 miles have been brilliant

It’s a bit of a pain going through the shadow immobiliser deactivation but it’s because I have it installed I still have a vehicle 🥺

The ADAS could be easier to adjust but I have developed my way to deal with it so I have visual only speed alerts - I actually don’t mind most of the features
 
Hi FT, thankfully you had your shadow immob. What happened? Was it at home, did the alarm alert you and had you used the key deactivation function?
 
I did post about it in its own thread

They stab the tailgate with tin snips and cut a rough 5 inch gash and rip the metal back with plyers and reach in and steal the central
locking module

Small area damaged but needs new tailgate and with all the painting glass transfer electrics etc it’s not small amounts so insurance and no idea when the dealer will get the parts

The best idea is to reverse up to a wall to stop access

Yes at home - middle of the afternoon with people around - they just don’t care - obviously organised crime - it was locked and alarmed but no alarm triggered and was still locked
 
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What a nightmare but I’m glad they didn’t get it. Reversing onto a wall is a good idea. Hope the parts come soon.
 
Yep - already been a while - incident was 21 May - took a while to decide on whether to put through as insurance claim - quotes came back at £5k plus so it was obviously sensible to make a claim and now I’m in the waiting for parts to arrive phase

Could well have tape across the gash in the tailgate and no electronic close for a few months at this rate
 
I hope they can source the parts quickly, you wouldn’t think it’s difficult in today’s global arena but…… good luck
 
Anyone had any success upgrading the tyres on 20” rims?
It seems the BFG KO3’s in the right size won’t be coming to the UK any time soon and the same with the Grabber AT’s.
Not sure there’s anything similar on offer in the UK and I don’t really want to buy a new set of smaller rims.
 
Mine is a first edition UK spec but I suspect the tailgate is standard for all LC250’s
 
Anyone had any success upgrading the tyres on 20” rims?
It seems the BFG KO3’s in the right size won’t be coming to the UK any time soon and the same with the Grabber AT’s.
Not sure there’s anything similar on offer in the UK and I don’t really want to buy a new set of smaller rims.
Added K02’s day after collection - had them on my previous car [40k+++ miles and they were brilliant. Nothing fazed the Jimny.]

Sourced the tyres through TyrePoint Maidstone
 

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The ADAS could be easier to adjust but I have developed my way to deal with it so I have visual only speed alerts - I actually don’t mind most of the features
Can you share what did you do? I would love only visual warning. I understand this might not be legal, so if you dont want to say here please PM me.
 
That’s good news, I had been holding out for the KO3’s arrival here but I suspect that’s a long way off yet and the KO2’s are top of the class anyway so I can’t imagine the performance difference is anything noticeable. Will go that route at the end of the summer.

Was the size at straight swap for the stock 265/60R20 tyre??
Thanks!
 
That’s good news, I had been holding out for the KO3’s arrival here but I suspect that’s a long way off yet and the KO2’s are top of the class anyway so I can’t imagine the performance difference is anything noticeable. Will go that route at the end of the summer.

Was the size at straight swap for the stock 265/60R20 tyre??
Thanks!
Yes- 265/60R20 BF Goodrich KO2 - on the recommendation of TyrePoint.

 
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Thanks, that’s good to know.
What did you do with the originals? Is there a secondhand market for these nearly new road biased tyres?
 
Thanks, that’s good to know.
What did you do with the originals? Is there a secondhand market for these nearly new road biased tyres?
A speciality size at 265 60 R20 - not much of a market.

I have 4 Geolanders [100 miles] in Surrey looking for a home.
 
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