Looking for some advice from other 2025 Land Cruiser owners.

[Kosmic Kitty]

Learned this young, didn't believe it to the core... yet. Now I'm old and it's religion for me...
"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement."

Luckily, I'm perfect...


I joined this forum just to bitch and whine about getting 11.5 mpg. I posted a picture of my MT's -cut-rate boat anchor tires, a brand none of you had ever heard of and you guys immediately piled on.


You all convinced me to ditch them for much lighter Nitto Terra Grappler G3s. My Land Cruiser is now showing 16.5 mpg around town—and that's with plenty of hills.


Turns out the biggest problem wasn't Toyota... it was the idiot who let the dealer sell me those tires in the first place.

 

[Mopper]

I bought mine with oversized dealer installed tires and panicked on initial mileage too. The correct size and weight tires along with whatever it is that Land Cruisers do between 5- and 10-thousand miles (finish learning and apply adaptive coefficients to operating equations?) cured the issue. I've been enjoying being consistently above 19 regardless of what the weather/topography/speed is.

Just switched back to oversized tires yesterday in prep for western US travel next month. Time to restudy those tires' performance.

 

[Kosmic Kitty]

I bought mine with oversized dealer installed tires and panicked on initial mileage too. The correct size and weight tires along with whatever it is that Land Cruisers do between 5- and 10-thousand miles (finish learning and apply adaptive coefficients to operating equations?) cured the issue. I've been enjoying being consistently above 19 regardless of what the weather/topography/speed is.

Just switched back to oversized tires yesterday in prep for western US travel next month. Time to restudy those tires' performance.

I went from 285/70/17 Deliums MT the mobile installer said were over 65lbs to 275/70/17 Nitto G3s 49.8lbs the installer could not believe what an upgrade - the Deliums had all sorts of weights on them to balance out - almost all the Nitto's were damn near perfect and needed very little to no weights to be perfectly balanced. You get what you pay for it seems.

I bought mine with oversized dealer installed tires and panicked on initial mileage too. The correct size and weight tires along with whatever it is that Land Cruisers do between 5- and 10-thousand miles (finish learning and apply adaptive coefficients to operating equations?) cured the issue. I've been enjoying being consistently above 19 regardless of what the weather/topography/speed is.

Just switched back to oversized tires yesterday in prep for western US travel next month. Time to restudy those tires' performance.

I went from 285/70R17 Delium M/Ts—which the mobile tire installer said were well over 65 lbs each—to 275/70R17 Nitto Terra Grappler G3s at 49.8 lbs.

The installer couldn't believe the difference. He said it was a huge upgrade. The Deliums had weights stuck all over the wheels just to get them balanced. The Nittos were almost perfect right out of the mold—most needed little or no weight at all.

You really do get what you pay for. Between dropping roughly 15+ lbs per corner and using a much higher-quality tire, my Land Cruiser drives better, accelerates easier, and my fuel economy has gone from about 11.5 mpg to 16.5 mpg around town.

 

[Kosmic Kitty]

I went from 285/70/17 Deliums MT the mobile installer said were over 65lbs to 275/70/17 Nitto G3s 49.8lbs the installer could not believe what an upgrade - the Deliums had all sorts of weights on them to balance out - almost all the Nitto's were damn near perfect and needed very little to no weights to be perfectly balanced. You get what you pay for it seems.

I went from 285/70R17 Delium M/Ts—which the mobile tire installer said were well over 65 lbs each—to 275/70R17 Nitto Terra Grappler G3s at 49.8 lbs.

The installer couldn't believe the difference. He said it was a huge upgrade. The Deliums had weights stuck all over the wheels just to get them balanced. The Nittos were almost perfect right out of the mold—most needed little or no weight at all.

You really do get what you pay for. Between dropping roughly 15+ lbs per corner and using a much higher-quality tire, my Land Cruiser drives better, accelerates easier, and my fuel economy has gone from about 11.5 mpg to 16.5 mpg around town.

Sorry posted twice

 

[NoMe cruiser]

There doesn’t seem to be any evidence that it was driven on pavement while the center differential was locked. It’s merely a picture of the dash at a certain time. We don’t really see what the conditions were under the tires. Having said that… with the lift and tires it’s almost certain that the vehicle will never get off road. Lift and big aggressive tires are synonymous with pavement driving.

 

[EOD Guy]

IMO, nobody on this forum knows exactly what did or did not happen with the exception of the OP. Many people join a forum to get an answer to a (as in one) question. Once they get that answer/opinion (I use that term loosely) they don't revisit until they need an answer to another question.

Many people (especially new to 4WD/DIY'ers) start out that exact way and if they consider the opinions valuable, they usually revisit fairly quickly and contribute when they can. If they consider the opinion giver(s) as a blowhard, they might consider the amount of effort it took to compose a post (and that's not a lot) vs the narcissist, abstract information they received...... not worth their effort.

Most of us have been guilty to some degree at one time or another. Most of us try and do better and a few of us............ "Well bless their hearts".

 

[Mopper]

Couldn't decide if the winner emoji or the laughing emoji was right- you deserve both.

Btw, imagine guys in your line of work might strongly disagree with certain aspects "experience comes from poor judgement"!

 

[EOD Guy]

Couldn't decide if the winner emoji or the laughing emoji was right- you deserve both.

Btw, imagine guys in your line of work might strongly disagree with certain aspects "experience comes from poor judgement"!

Our official motto "Initial success or total failure"

 

[Mopper]

makes perfect sense!

Thanks for the hard work

 

[Calokie]

My Turkish Get-Up
I was really looking forward to getting some pointers on perfecting this

 

[basicxj]

OP is probably never returning here under original username after this.

If you break it down, OP was probably shopping and taken in by a bad *ss looking truck, fell in love with it and brought it home. That is understandable, and she wouldn’t be the first to do so.

Unfortunately, some of the things that make it a bad *ss truck compared to a bone stock one can negatively impact fuel mileage and many people don’t expect that. I have seen that on a few forums and a few vehicle platforms. If you want the mods for performance, more power to you. If you want the mods for looks, it is best to do your research. I hope OP comes to love her truck and stays involved in the community.

 

[wpage]

Like high maintenance people. Sometimes the love of our trucks gets us into problems.
Mitigating the problem occasionally requires some backtracking.

 

[ellism23]

New Here!! Yesterday… I bought a 2025 Land Cruiser 4WD Hybrid Premium with a 2.5” Westcott lift and 35” BFGoodrich KM3 tires at Lifted Trucks. I drove it home from Arizona to Southern California yesterday in very hot weather (around 110°F for much of the drive), mostly freeway driving around 60-75 mph with the A/C on.
The truck consistently displayed about 11.5–12 mpg for most of the drive, and after filling the tank completely it estimated only about 216 miles of range.

I know the lift and 35s will reduce fuel economy compared to a stock Land Cruiser, but this seems much lower than I expected for the hybrid that was advertised.

For those of you running a similar setup:
● What highway MPG are you actually getting?
● What range do you normally see on a full tank?
● Was your speedometer/odometer recalibrated after installing 35s?
● Does this sound like a calibration issue, or should I have the dealer inspect it?
Thanks in advance. I appreciate any feedback.

New Here!! Yesterday… I bought a 2025 Land Cruiser 4WD Hybrid Premium with a 2.5” Westcott lift and 35” BFGoodrich KM3 tires at Lifted Trucks. I drove it home from Arizona to Southern California yesterday in very hot weather (around 110°F for much of the drive), mostly freeway driving around 60-75 mph with the A/C on.
The truck consistently displayed about 11.5–12 mpg for most of the drive, and after filling the tank completely it estimated only about 216 miles of range.

I know the lift and 35s will reduce fuel economy compared to a stock Land Cruiser, but this seems much lower than I expected for the hybrid that was advertised.

For those of you running a similar setup:
● What highway MPG are you actually getting?
● What range do you normally see on a full tank?
● Was your speedometer/odometer recalibrated after installing 35s?
● Does this sound like a calibration issue, or should I have the dealer inspect it?
Thanks in advance. I appreciate any feedback.

Congrats on the cruiser!
I echo what others have said about the sweet spot with speed being under mid 70’s. Also, this may be unpopular opinion, but running 35’s with a Wescott lift may not enhance your off-road performance because you can lose articulation and wheel travel compared to running stock suspension and 33’s. So, you may be significantly compromising gas mileage for not a ton of off road upside- depends on your usage and if it’s a full suspension upgrade or a collar lift for looks. Personally, I run 33’s to keep my mileage in the low 20’s or high teens and am fully armored. This has allowed my to still do a majority of trails in Colorado - Imogene, etc. Also, definitely make sure you know how to use the lockers, 4L, etc.
Good luck!

 

[RideWithYanu]

Also, this may be unpopular opinion, but running 35’s with a Wescott lift may not enhance your off-road performance because you can lose articulation and wheel travel compared to running stock suspension and 33’s. So, you may be significantly compromising gas mileage for not a ton of off road upside- depends on your usage and if it’s a full suspension upgrade or a collar lift for looks. Personally, I run 33’s to keep my mileage in the low 20’s or high teens and am fully armored. This has allowed my to still do a majority of trails in Colorado - Imogene, etc. Also, definitely make sure you know how to use the lockers, 4L, etc.
Good luck!

Perhaps unpopular but 100% correct and sage advice. Your comment is an excellent example of humble and friendly advice.

There’s nothing wrong with these types of mods folks buy for the aesthetic, but it’s good for them to be aware of the practical implications.