Is the LC250 a Beast Off-Road? Colorado Trail Adventures in the Land Cruiser

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After spending the better part of six weeks living with my LC in the mountains of Colorado, I can definitely say that it was the ideal choice for me. The LC is a comfortable daily driver, sweet road tripper, and highly capable off-roader.

A quick list of mods I made specific for off-roading:
  1. Method 703 Beadgrip wheels (17", +35, Gloss Titanium)
  2. Falken WildPeak AT4W LT255/80R17
  3. Slee Rock Sliders
  4. OEM Skid Plates (engine & transmission)
  5. RCI Front & Rear Lower Link Skids
  6. RCI Rear Shock Skids
  7. OEM First Edition Style Mud Flaps
  8. All-Top Deflators (worked awesome!)
  9. VIAir Pump (fast, but not super fast to get tires from 20 to 40 psi)
  10. NOCO Boost GBX45 (just in case!)
  11. Glue Tread Off-Road Tire Repair Kit (pricey, but worth it if you get a flat. The Falken tires were exceptional and resisted any sidewall punctures, but you never know!)
Of those, I would not do the OEM style mud flaps because I found that they were damaged during some of my off roading. I plan to pick up a set of RockBlokz to use next year when I head back to Colorado. The flaw with the OEM mud flaps is that the metal pieces got bent, with the front passenger side suffering the most damage. Here's a couple of pics to see:
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Here's a list of most of the places we took the LC, along with the difficulty of the trails -

  1. Medano Pass Primitive Road (4/10) - east to west, emptying into Great Sand Dunes National Park
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  2. Mosquito Pass (4/10 to 5/10) - Leadville to Pass and back down. A very rough, rocky road with several technical obstacles along the way. Much harder than Medano Pass Primitive Road.
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  3. Shrine Pass (2/10) - Mostly a scenic drive from Shrine Ridge down to Red Cliff. We aired down, but that's pretty much all that was needed for this drive.
  4. Red & White Mountain (4/10) - Some scenic views of the Vail & Beaver Creek ski areas.
  5. Metcalf Creek Road (5/10) - Narrow and tough in areas. If I had realized what this road was like, I would've stayed on Red & White Mountain to the end. It was getting late in the day, so we detoured down Metcalf Creek Road to get back to town faster. The road wasn't particularly scenic or interesting, but it did improve my driving skills!
  6. Schofield Pass/Crystal Mill (5/10) - We drove the 11 mile round trip to and from the Crystal Mill. The shelf road was the scariest part, but no problems for the LC, even with rainfall and hail on the way back.
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  7. West end of Black Bear Pass (3/10?) - two or three obstacles and switchbacks on the last 2-3 miles of the two-way trail on the Telluride side of the pass. No interest in doing the one way switchbacks down into Telluride.
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  8. Red Mountain Pass (4/10) - The southern trail exit was closed, but we still covered 90% of the trail.
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  9. Ophir Pass (4/10) - The closure of the Million Dollar Highway trapped us south of Ouray, so we took the shortest and quickest pass to get back. The east side of Ophir is a dream, just dirt road. But, starting at the top and for the next 2+ miles, it gets rocky and challenging. The hardest part is a very narrow shelf road on the west side where it is difficult to pass. We waited for the trail to clear before heading down.
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Things that are great about the LC -
1. Articulation - the LC kept its boots on the ground, even going across some pretty significant obstacles. Sure, I could've found a way to get some hang time for a wheel, but that wasn't my goal. Boots on the ground means that I never lost traction, even on the toughest obstacles.
2. Low Range - Once I had some time behind the wheel, I could feather the LC up and over just about anything. The pedal control meant that I never felt the need to two foot the LC over anything. Since we were on mountain roads with lots of ups and downs, we spent a lot of time in four low.
3. SDM - We kept the SDM disconnected off-road continuously. The additional articulation was great, but it also smoothed out washboard when we were under the mandatory 19 mph. C'mon Toyota - can we please keep it disconnected at a slightly higher speed?
4. Stock suspension - I was impressed by the tuning of the suspension, which does an excellent job of balancing on-road handling with off-road ruggedness. We did not experience much in the way of head bob while off-roading.
5. Center Locker - We engaged it every time we went off-road. Traction was excellent.
6. Rear Locker - Rarely used and maybe never needed? I locked the rear locker on some steeper and more technical portions of Mosquito Pass, but probably could've done without it. I also locked the rear locker headed back up over Schofield Pass because it was rocky and rainy, not a great combination.
7. MTS - I engaged it a few times, but didn't notice any slip. In the absence of a front locker, this is our security blanket.
8. Cameras - the views were great when they were on in four low. I rarely needed a spotter.

What's not so great?
  1. Ground Clearance - I definitely rubbed my skid plates and rock sliders more than a few times on obstacles/rocks I thought the LC should be able to clear. The articulation of the suspension gives the LC a tremendous ability to clear obstacles, but when the LC is running flat down a rock road and the nose bounces a bit, I sometimes would unexpectedly hit some rocks (I experienced this a lot coming down Ophir which has a lot of large, loose rocks in the middle.)
  2. OEM 20" Wheels & Tires - These stayed at home in favor of the 703/Falken tire combo. Duh.
  3. Nannies - Can these shut off automatically off-road? Please?
  4. The terrain camera system shuts off at too low of a speed. My wife started hitting the button because she liked to see the view, even when I didn't need it :)
Now that I've spent some time off-road in the LC, I can truly say I was impressed with its off-road chops. Not only did it go anywhere and everywhere we asked it to go, but it did so with ease. The most important upgrade I made to the LC was the wheels and tires. The Method 703 BeadGrip wheels gave me confidence to air down to 20 psi without any worry of debeading. The Falken WildPeak AT4W LT255/80R17 (pizza cutters) were simply incredible in gripping and getting over obstacles. We simply never lost grip in any situation. I definitely don't have KO3 envy! (And, the KO3s don't come in any size that I would consider a pizza cutter.)

One future modification I might consider is changing out to Bilstein shocks once they become available and lifting the truck about 1" all around.
 
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Excellent write up, description, and photos of what was certainly an amazing drive!

Nannies....I watched a comparison video last night that involved the Grenadier, and one of the coolest features I saw was a single button on the Grenadier that eliminates all nannies when off-roading.
 
Excellent write up, description, and photos of what was certainly an amazing drive!

Nannies....I watched a comparison video last night that involved the Grenadier, and one of the coolest features I saw was a single button on the Grenadier that eliminates all nannies when off-roading.
Yes, that's a cool feature on the Grenadier. I have a buddy with a Grenadier and it has more quirks than Doug DeMuro. And, no, that's not a good thing!
 
I wonder if Toyota would be responsive to owner complaints about all the pop up messaging when off road. I think itโ€™s stupid to tell me that my trailer hitch is disconnected when iโ€™m not trailering anything, or even in tow mode.

I also wonder if this can be disabled with the tech software dealers and some owners have access to. I donโ€™t remember what the software is called.
 
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Yes, that's a cool feature on the Grenadier. I have a buddy with a Grenadier and it has more quirks than Doug DeMuro. And, no, that's not a good thing!
I have heard about the quirks with it. Ill take the one button for nanny control, and its a cool looking truck and I like the philosophy behind it, but I'll keep my LC!
 
Great review! I wish YouTube/IG had more real world and honest reviews about the LC like this. Too many unqualified reviewers putting out nonsense supported by keyboard off-roaders in the comments. I love this vehicle, itโ€™s a beast.
 
Great review! I wish YouTube/IG had more real world and honest reviews about the LC like this. Too many unqualified reviewers putting out nonsense supported by keyboard off-roaders in the comments. I love this vehicle, itโ€™s a beast.
Thank you for the kind words! I'm pretty unqualified, but at least I have experience behind the wheel of the LC250 both on and off-road.
 
Nice looking rig and an excellent write up! Thank you for taking the time to give us a real world review. I'm looking forward to the time when I can go to Colorado and drive all the high alpine roads (I have a list), maybe next year. I'm almost ready, Black Friday sales for the RCI full skid plate package last year and this year will be sliders. Still riding on OEM 20s which concerns me for getting cut up on the rocks so will probably go with 17s to get a smoother offload ride and an AT.
 
Nice looking rig and an excellent write up! Thank you for taking the time to give us a real world review. I'm looking forward to the time when I can go to Colorado and drive all the high alpine roads (I have a list), maybe next year. I'm almost ready, Black Friday sales for the RCI full skid plate package last year and this year will be sliders. Still riding on OEM 20s which concerns me for getting cut up on the rocks so will probably go with 17s to get a smoother offload ride and an AT.
First, I love my Slee sliders. I also have some RCI equipment (front and rear lower link skids and rear shock skids.) IMHO, Slee manufactures to a higher standard. The look of the Slee sliders is outstanding. But, if you're looking for the tubular look and something that sticks out more from the body, Westcott or RCI might be a better fit for you.

My wheel/tire combo felt unbeatable. The Method BeadGrips are outstanding and my Falken WildPeak AT4Ws gripped everything. I'm a huge fan of using pizza cutters, especially after my experiences in CO (LT255/80R17, E-Load, 33" true diameter). I originally had planned to go with 34" tires, but I'm glad I went with the pizza cutters. I would not be willing to run the 20" OEM tires on most of the roads I drove. The ability to air down increased grip and smoothed out the ride considerably. Plus, I never worried about cutting a sidewall on the very sharp rocks on most of the roads I drove. Now that I'm home, I'll switch back to the OEM wheels & tires for a while. No need to waste good rubber - tires are expensive!

And thank you for the compliment :)
 
Obligatory still not a real Land Cruiser post.

Clearly would have dominated unscathed if it was a GX550 instead. Da real Land Cruiser.
 
Nice looking rig and an excellent write up! Thank you for taking the time to give us a real world review. I'm looking forward to the time when I can go to Colorado and drive all the high alpine roads (I have a list), maybe next year. I'm almost ready, Black Friday sales for the RCI full skid plate package last year and this year will be sliders. Still riding on OEM 20s which concerns me for getting cut up on the rocks so will probably go with 17s to get a smoother offload ride and an AT.
VB here as well. I have been debating for a year on what modifications to make to mine. Small lift is my priority. Been to several of the off-road shops around here but not 100% comfortable with any yet.
 
First, I love my Slee sliders. I also have some RCI equipment (front and rear lower link skids and rear shock skids.) IMHO, Slee manufactures to a higher standard. The look of the Slee sliders is outstanding. But, if you're looking for the tubular look and something that sticks out more from the body, Westcott or RCI might be a better fit for you.

My wheel/tire combo felt unbeatable. The Method BeadGrips are outstanding and my Falken WildPeak AT4Ws gripped everything. I'm a huge fan of using pizza cutters, especially after my experiences in CO (LT255/80R17, E-Load, 33" true diameter). I originally had planned to go with 34" tires, but I'm glad I went with the pizza cutters. I would not be willing to run the 20" OEM tires on most of the roads I drove. The ability to air down increased grip and smoothed out the ride considerably. Plus, I never worried about cutting a sidewall on the very sharp rocks on most of the roads I drove. Now that I'm home, I'll switch back to the OEM wheels & tires for a while. No need to waste good rubber - tires are expensive!

And thank you for the compliment :)
I went to Slee and looked at their sliders which looked very well build and have a great look. My wife pointed out the step for the back seat ended a bit early for the use of older people and kids. I have considered Dissent, NYTop, Bud Built and CBI sliders, I think the ones I will get are the White Knuckle with the Kick out for ease of rear Ingress.(Hoping for Black Friday Deals like last year). This forum is an amazing resource of everyone's experience, it is great to learn from others and share the bits that you learn.
I like the look of your Method Titanium 703 and was thinking about going with 34X10.50 to keep them narrow and give a bit of extra ground clearance, since like you, I will only run them when I plan to go off the pavement.
 
VB here as well. I have been debating for a year on what modifications to make to mine. Small lift is my priority. Been to several of the off-road shops around here but not 100% comfortable with any yet.
A small lift was near the bottom of important mods I considered before my trip. Based on my experience, not much has changed (a small lift might be nice, but not necessary for anything I drove.) Plus, Bilstein is at the top of my list for any suspension upgrades based on the blind shock tests I've watched. The Bilstein shocks may not be available until next year sometime. And, that's ok with me! Here's one episode of many...

 
VB here as well. I have been debating for a year on what modifications to make to mine. Small lift is my priority. Been to several of the off-road shops around here but not 100% comfortable with any yet.
Are you the Blue FE I see all the time? There are only about 6 LC250 I have seen in our area. So far all I have done is the full RCI skid pates (Front, engine and trans), rear differential breather relocation and I'm going to add a full set of rock lights so you can actually see it light up when you get close to it.
 
I went to Slee and looked at their sliders which looked very well build and have a great look. My wife pointed out the step for the back seat ended a bit early for the use of older people and kids. I have considered Dissent, NYTop, Bud Built and CBI sliders, I think the ones I will get are the White Knuckle with the Kick out for ease of rear Ingress.(Hoping for Black Friday Deals like last year). This forum is an amazing resource of everyone's experience, it is great to learn from others and share the bits that you learn.
I like the look of your Method Titanium 703 and was thinking about going with 34X10.50 to keep them narrow and give a bit of extra ground clearance, since like you, I will only run them when I plan to go off the pavement.
Yes, the look of the Slee means that the step is narrower in the rear. That's less important to me because my kids are grown and my wife sits in the front with me. So, I'm not chauffering her around :cool: :ROFLMAO:

I love the look of the 703 in Titanium with the Heritage Blue. I know black wheels are popular, but they just aren't my jam. (Black wheels and piano black trim have been run into the ground, imo.)

In terms of tires, narrow is better both for keeping the wheel from rubbing even at full flex and also because it does a better job of conforming to the rocks and gripping. Who makes the 34 x 10.5 in 17"?
 
Are you the Blue FE I see all the time? There are only about 6 LC250 I have seen in our area. So far all I have done is the full RCI skid pates (Front, engine and trans), rear differential breather relocation and I'm going to add a full set of rock lights so you can actually see it light up when you get close to it.
I hear you on the lift. My wife is telling me the same. But she is not convincing enough๐Ÿ˜‚.
I have a meteor shower. Man if you have a diff breather then you need a lift! Just enabling you. I have seen one blue LC near my home that has done something - looks great. Maybe lift / maybe just tires. The FE came with skid plates and unless I get more serious they will do for me for now.
I'm sure you know, but sounds like some kind of fun trails just west of Harrisonburg and into WV.
 
Yes, the look of the Slee means that the step is narrower in the rear. That's less important to me because my kids are grown and my wife sits in the front with me. So, I'm not chauffering her around :cool: :ROFLMAO:

I love the look of the 703 in Titanium with the Heritage Blue. I know black wheels are popular, but they just aren't my jam. (Black wheels and piano black trim have been run into the ground, imo.)

In terms of tires, narrow is better both for keeping the wheel from rubbing even at full flex and also because it does a better job of conforming to the rocks and gripping. Who makes the 34 x 10.5 in 17"?
My kid is grown but I drive my in-laws and parents around and they are older so a step is helpful.
I agree that black rims are everywhere and titanium is a good look with Heritage Blue. For tires I was looking at the Toyo Open Country AT3 34/10.5 17D. The reviews on here are good for off road, bit louder than stock on road but not objectionable, long life, and they work well in snow, not that we get much here in VB.
 
I hear you on the lift. My wife is telling me the same. But she is not convincing enough๐Ÿ˜‚.
I have a meteor shower. Man if you have a diff breather then you need a lift! Just enabling you. I have seen one blue LC near my home that has done something - looks great. Maybe lift / maybe just tires. The FE came with skid plates and unless I get more serious they will do for me for now.
I'm sure you know, but sounds like some kind of fun trails just west of Harrisonburg and into WV.
Just putting on larger tires gained me a decent lift. Still, a lift remains on the menu at some point.
 
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