In Praise Of... The Mis-Cast and Misunderstood LC250

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My LC250 is sitting on E-Load rated 285 70 R18 tires, has a roof rack, rock sliders, and skid plates and when I drive it in Eco mode and drive smoothly, I am still averaging 18-21 in the city and 22-24 MPGs on the flatter highways...

*Edited the MPGs achieved on the drive round trip as I used simple AVG vs calculating the actual round trip AVG and my car setup details.

Ugh.

I'm here in the Front Range with my vehicle sitting about the same as you (same tires, skids, rack, sliders), and I get 16 average. No lead foot, driving in Normal, seems not to matter what I do, the mileage just sucks.

I will say my LC loves to go downhill.
 
Ugh.

I'm here in the Front Range with my vehicle sitting about the same as you (same tires, skids, rack, sliders), and I get 16 average. No lead foot, driving in Normal, seems not to matter what I do, the mileage just sucks.

I will say my LC loves to go downhill.
Average speed? This is a key variable for a traveling brick.
 
Just wrapped up a 1800 mile road winter road trip across the great basin to UT, down to Socal and back to NorCal. I averaged 18mpg. Light off roading, snow, city traffic, the LC handles it all with a family of 5's gear, with aplomb. Passing on narrow 2 lane hwy was very impressive. After that and 11k miles I finally feel like the LCs a keeper!
 
Average speed? This is a key variable for a traveling brick.
Typical. Freeway driving to Moab, two weeks on a tank of gas driving around town, does not matter.

EDIT: Freeway driving to Santa Fe. Mostly freeway driving around here. Mixed freeway/city driving. Again, doesn't matter what I do or how I drive it, it gets 15-17 mpg.
 
Typical. Freeway driving to Moab, two weeks on a tank of gas driving around town, does not matter.

EDIT: Freeway driving to Santa Fe. Mostly freeway driving around here. Mixed freeway/city driving. Again, doesn't matter what I do or how I drive it, it gets 15-17 mpg.
Might as well be driving a GX. Oh, just a sec, the engine might seize up. Sorry, could not resist a jab at the Toyota V6 fiasco.
 
Might as well be driving a GX. Oh, just a sec, the engine might seize up. Sorry, could not resist a jab at the Toyota V6 fiasco.
As I quietly sit here waiting for my transmission to grenade itself before Toyota will do anything about it... uh, never mind.

[And yes, I'm starting to believe that those of us with bad transmissions also experience unusually poor fuel economy.]
 
As I quietly sit here waiting for my transmission to grenade itself before Toyota will do anything about it... uh, never mind.

[And yes, I'm starting to believe that those of us with bad transmissions also experience unusually poor fuel economy.]
What is the issue with transmission? I have noticed some are having problems with the auxiliary pump which energizes the clutch for starting the engine. Something else?
 
What is the issue with transmission? I have noticed some are having problems with the auxiliary pump which energizes the clutch for starting the engine. Something else?
 
Average speed? This is a key variable for a traveling brick.
I just had a very clear illustration of this. Over the break we drove about 1400 miles from home to Savannah then up to Nashville and back. Outward averaged 22.1, cruising at 75-80. The leg to Nashville was a cold day with a strong headwind and a few more hills got 17.5 at same speed. Back from Nashville though we drove the Natchez Trace and got 27! Probably because I had the cruise control at 52 for a couple hundred miles. 50 mph limit for those not familiar and expensive national park tickets if you overdo it. For the whole trip it ended up right at 21, which seems fine to me given there was also city driving at each stop.
 
Ugh.

I'm here in the Front Range with my vehicle sitting about the same as you (same tires, skids, rack, sliders), and I get 16 average. No lead foot, driving in Normal, seems not to matter what I do, the mileage just sucks.

I will say my LC loves to go downhill.
Maybe time for a trade in…plus some extra firepower when needed. πŸ˜‚
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Ugh.

I'm here in the Front Range with my vehicle sitting about the same as you (same tires, skids, rack, sliders), and I get 16 average. No lead foot, driving in Normal, seems not to matter what I do, the mileage just sucks.

I will say my LC loves to go downhill.
I will say my MPGs are slightly lower now… I get about 19-20 MPGs pretty consistently. Definitely not the same as when I had the factory OEM setup with much lower unsprung weight.
 
I will say my MPGs are slightly lower now… I get about 19-20 MPGs pretty consistently. Definitely not the same as when I had the factory OEM setup with much lower unsprung weight.
I would love to get 18-20, it’s what I expected.
 
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