How many Northern California folks do we have here?

Nor Cal shop that looks real good. We need a shop like this up here.


I will tour the shop and get some photos soon.
Good chat with them this AM.
They don't advertise some of the suspension work they do, like King suspension products, you need to ask.
Going to look at the bumper and winch pkg, kinda irresistible to be honest, very clean with good winch access, all in house fabed.
More soon.
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Re: the Wescott puck suspension kit, they are looking into that.
 
Nor Cal shop that looks real good. We need a shop like this up here.


I will tour the shop and get some photos soon.
Good chat with them this AM.
They don't advertise some of the suspension work they do, like King suspension products, you need to ask.
Going to look at the bumper and winch pkg, kinda irresistible to be honest, very clean with good winch access, all in house fabed.
More soon.
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I was just up there last weekend for this, still working on a quick install video for them. Max and the guys do great work.
 
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I was just up there last weekend for this, still working on a quick install video for them. Max and the guys do great work.
Do you have a picture of where they pick up the 12vdc+ in the engine bay? That would be very helpful. Where do they ground the winch? This really looks promising.
 
Do you have a picture of where they pick up the 12vdc+ in the engine bay? That would be very helpful. Where do they ground the winch? This really looks promising.
Winch will need to be wired directly to the battery. The factory 12v front point isn’t rated to handle a winch at full draw. What they did for me was run power wire from the back and made another positive terminal in the engine bay, which the winch is a then connected to. I’ll try to get a picture for you when I can.
 
Winch will need to be wired directly to the battery. The factory 12v front point isn’t rated to handle a winch at full draw. What they did for me was run power wire from the back and made another positive terminal in the engine bay, which the winch is a then connected to. I’ll try to get a picture for you when I can.
Understand. Mark doesn't understand.
Do they have completed vehicles there we can take a detailed look at?
We need the weight for the entire mount, we can look up the winch.
Are you ever there?
There are two members from here in the bay area very interested.
I know them both, top rate.
Maybe a show and tell?
 
Still trying to understand why we don't need the air dams if we put a winch bumper on?
If the air dams arn't needed for any real function i have a hard time believing Toyota would use them at all?
This has really bothered me since the winch mods began. Now i want one and need to decide.
 
Understand. Mark doesn't understand.
Do they have completed vehicles there we can take a detailed look at?
We need the weight for the entire mount, we can look up the winch.
Are you ever there?
There are two members from here in the bay area very interested.
I know them both, top rate.
Maybe a show and tell?
@Luigi (2yotas1fam) and I are both located in the south bay and area and would be more than happy to meet with you if you're ever in the area. I'm in the Milpitas / Fremont area the majority of the week. I don't think either of us have any plans to be up there anytime soon. We're both currently running the front bumper and winch. I can also shoot you some photos and answer any questions that you might have.

As far as the air dams, they're not need on either the 4g Tacoma, 6th gen 4r, or 250 series LC. I believe their sole purpose is to help Toyota report higher MPG numbers, and maybe to deflect some debris. There's a reason why many of these owners pull off the factory air dams as one of their first mods to these vehicles, and have reported no issues yet.
 
@Luigi (2yotas1fam) and I are both located in the south bay and area and would be more than happy to meet with you if you're ever in the area. I'm in the Milpitas / Fremont area the majority of the week. I don't think either of us have any plans to be up there anytime soon. We're both currently running the front bumper and winch. I can also shoot you some photos and answer any questions that you might have.

As far as the air dams, they're not need on either the 4g Tacoma, 6th gen 4r, or 250 series LC. I believe their sole purpose is to help Toyota report higher MPG numbers, and maybe to deflect some debris. There's a reason why many of these owners pull off the factory air dams as one of their first mods to these vehicles, and have reported no issues yet.
I'm in Fremont, how have I not seen your Land Cruiser around!

I've pondered figuring out some kind of quick disconnect for the air dams so I can take them off when I'm not on the highway, but I haven't put much effort into it yet.
 
@Luigi (2yotas1fam) and I are both located in the south bay and area and would be more than happy to meet with you if you're ever in the area. I'm in the Milpitas / Fremont area the majority of the week. I don't think either of us have any plans to be up there anytime soon. We're both currently running the front bumper and winch. I can also shoot you some photos and answer any questions that you might have.

As far as the air dams, they're not need on either the 4g Tacoma, 6th gen 4r, or 250 series LC. I believe their sole purpose is to help Toyota report higher MPG numbers, and maybe to deflect some debris. There's a reason why many of these owners pull off the factory air dams as one of their first mods to these vehicles, and have reported no issues yet.
Pls advise why you say this?
Where does this information come from?
Thx.
"As far as the air dams, they're not need on either the 4g Tacoma, 6th gen 4r, or 250 series LC"
 
Pls advise why you say this?
Where does this information come from?
Thx.
"As far as the air dams, they're not need on either the 4g Tacoma, 6th gen 4r, or 250 series LC"
I don't believe we'll be able to find any source material from Toyota stating this, but this is what I believe the general consensus is from the consumer side and owners across the majority of forums & enthusiast groups. That's what my research experience has shown me at least. You'll find plenty of anecdotal evidence of owners who ripped off their air dams just days after receiving their vehicles (such as myself) who have never had any problems.

From generative AI:
The primary purpose of the air dams on the 2024 Land Cruiser is to reduce drag and improve fuel efficiency. By channeling air under the vehicle, they minimize turbulence and lower air resistance, especially at higher speeds. This can lead to better fuel economy and potentially a longer driving range. Some air dams also help to improve engine performance by directing airflow to the engine bay for cooling.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Reducing Drag:
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    Air dams, like the one on the 2024 Tacoma, help to reduce drag by guiding airflow more smoothly over and around the vehicle. This is particularly important for larger vehicles like the Land Cruiser, where drag can significantly impact fuel consumption.

  • Improving Fuel Efficiency:
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    By minimizing drag, air dams help the vehicle move more efficiently, requiring less power to maintain speed. This translates to better fuel economy and potentially a longer driving range.

  • Potential Engine Cooling:
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    Some air dams also direct airflow to the engine bay, which can aid in cooling the engine, especially during high-speed driving or in demanding conditions.

  • Active Air Dams:
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    Some vehicles, like the F-150, have active air dams that automatically deploy and retract based on speed, further optimizing aerodynamic efficiency.
 
I'm in Fremont, how have I not seen your Land Cruiser around!

I've pondered figuring out some kind of quick disconnect for the air dams so I can take them off when I'm not on the highway, but I haven't put much effort into it yet.
I've been seeing a few more around the area but they're still so scarce!
 
I don't believe we'll be able to find any source material from Toyota stating this, but this is what I believe the general consensus is from the consumer side and owners across the majority of forums & enthusiast groups. That's what my research experience has shown me at least. You'll find plenty of anecdotal evidence of owners who ripped off their air dams just days after receiving their vehicles (such as myself) who have never had any problems.

From generative AI:
The primary purpose of the air dams on the 2024 Land Cruiser is to reduce drag and improve fuel efficiency. By channeling air under the vehicle, they minimize turbulence and lower air resistance, especially at higher speeds. This can lead to better fuel economy and potentially a longer driving range. Some air dams also help to improve engine performance by directing airflow to the engine bay for cooling.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Reducing Drag:
    .Opens in new tab

    Air dams, like the one on the 2024 Tacoma, help to reduce drag by guiding airflow more smoothly over and around the vehicle. This is particularly important for larger vehicles like the Land Cruiser, where drag can significantly impact fuel consumption.

  • Improving Fuel Efficiency:
    .Opens in new tab

    By minimizing drag, air dams help the vehicle move more efficiently, requiring less power to maintain speed. This translates to better fuel economy and potentially a longer driving range.

  • Potential Engine Cooling:
    .Opens in new tab

    Some air dams also direct airflow to the engine bay, which can aid in cooling the engine, especially during high-speed driving or in demanding conditions.

  • Active Air Dams:
    .Opens in new tab

    Some vehicles, like the F-150, have active air dams that automatically deploy and retract based on speed, further optimizing aerodynamic efficiency.
Thank you for the generic info.
I have this as well and do understand.
I run several engineering R&D groups so empirical data is my world. It won't happen here but a CFD model and analysis would be ideal, Toyota certainly has this but we will never see it or hear about it. I am going to pursue Toyota on the subject, this will be interesting.
 
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