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How disable start/stop to prevent turbo failure?
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SMDH…My wife simply refuses to drive the LC as long as it random starts and stops when driving, parking etc, because her BMW comes with a start/stop disable, and she really hates the LC clunky start stop. Myself I always drive with Tow/Haul on to not have to deal with random stops.
With hybrid am not worried for starter motor or battery, because hybrid motor is starting the engine.
Anyone figured out how to eliminate the start/stop function, because the LC does not come with the "@OFF" override button that similar Toyotas like Highlander came with?
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Hope one of you can share a solution that extends the life expectation of the turbo, really not keen on claiming my extended warrantee for something that is so preventable.
- Start/stop an engine excessively will accelerate wear and reduce the life of the engine, by putting unnecessary strain on all mechanical components
- Fact is Toyota turbos do not seem to have water cooling, kindly refer to Toyota turbo image below for details
- Now you really do not want to stop a hot 1,000 degrees F turbo in "mid air", suddenly stop engine means stop oil cooling for the turbo. Immediate effect is "cooking" and breakdown of lube oil trapped in the glowing hot turbo, and that "water and carbon property" oil sludge resumes circulation through the tiny oil channels of your engine when restarted. Secondary effect is extreme heat stress on the turbo bearings, lack of lubrication
Would prefer to keep enjoying this Toyota
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Problem solved, am with Ben Hardy on this engine, sold my LC, life is too short. Wish those YouTube fan boys could be more transparent, guess they get paid for each click, so click bait pays off big time!
Good luck with your future vehicular pursuits. I’m still sticking to my gut telling me you never drove, much less owned a 250.
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Sorry to inform your gut has it wrong time. Owned the LC for two weeks and put 500 miles on it, and let go at a loss before any further depreciation. Better to take a haircut now, than take much bigger haircut later. We have a boat to tow, and already have no power and no downshifts going up a steep decline. Noticed LC is 700 lbs heavier compared to 4Runner, and suspect the hybrid is for traffic lights in town and does not do anything for steep declines, my guess and do not want a science project, just wanted a 4wd that goes uphill with power to spare without boots full of gas, no more no less.
Good luck with your future vehicular pursuits. I’m still sticking to my gut telling me you never drove, much less owned a 250.
Lmao. Buys a 4 cylinder and plans to tow a boat with it. Not buying it chief. You don’t want it to be true anyway, because that would just mean Run’s gut feeling about you is true instead.
Good luck with whatever your next vehicle is.
IMHO, influencers are not a great source for information in general.
I did my research on the LC and knew exactly what it could and could not do, before I ever stepped foot on the dealership lot.
It is really a vehicle to go overlanding in, it is not meant for spirited driving nor towing heavy loads.
In fact, it does a far better job going overlanding than my previous GMC Sierra AT4 which I sold to Carvan for a profit.
For what it is designed for it is a good vehicle, but it sounds like for your needs it is not the right vehicle.
Toyota has a varied vehicle lineup between itself and Lexus.
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Sincerely, thank you for selling your Land Cruiser. You were diluting the intelligence level of LC owners. Do the world a favor and turn in your driver's license.
Clunky start/stop? I had a car wash attendant accidently hit the button on my 3 series when it was about a week old. The dealership had shut it off for delivery. It was just horrible. I sure wouldn't compare the Toyota to a BMW in the clunkiness department. It's not the ultimate engine start/stop machine.
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Sport mode doesn't always disable the stop/start but the tow/haul switch does, though you have to select it every time you start the car.
Again, however, you're not "disabling 'auto start/stop'", because that's a "feature" that only exists on ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) non-hybrid vehicles.
All that using tow/haul mode does to effect this, in a hybrid vehicle like the LC 250, is prevent the vehicle from idling in hybrid battery mode, which is NOT the same thing. It would make sense to do this to ensure maximum torque is available on start when towing, but under normal conditions the battery is more than capable of getting the vehicle moving for the split second before the gas engine kicks in. This is always a smooth operation in mine...starting from a stop is never "jerky", abrupt, or delayed as it may be with a non-hybrid vehicle with 'auto start/stop' engaged...if anyone is experiencing actual behavior like that, it's probably a more serious issue that should be addressed, rather than trying to "disable" a non-existent feature. Every hybrid Toyota has ever made (and pretty much every hybrid any other maker has produced) will idle in battery mode by design when appropriate -- it's literally one of the things the electric motor is there for.
If this were an ICE non-hybrid that did have "auto start/stop", there would be a button to disable it, just as there is on all other Toyota non-hybrids which have this "feature"
(and yes, I use "feature" in quotes because nobody wants or likes it -- but sadly 'auto start/stop' exists because auto makers are encouraged to get as much fuel economy out of their vehicles as possible, i.e. CAFE standards...but it's still not relevant here).
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Welcome to the asylum.
We can hope
My suspicion is that not much will change...
If it's easy to do, sure some auto makers will likely remove the feature from certain models, but they're probably also aware that stricter regulations will once again be imposed once a new administration is eventually voted into office, so not worth it for them to make drastic changes.
The recent update to the regulations that originally encouraged the "auto start/stop" function only removes the incentive to have it...it doesn't make it "illegal" to have to it.
If it's easy to do, sure some auto makers will likely remove the feature from certain models, but they're probably also aware that stricter regulations will once again be imposed once a new administration is eventually voted into office, so not worth it for them to make drastic changes.
The recent update to the regulations that originally encouraged the "auto start/stop" function only removes the incentive to have it...it doesn't make it "illegal" to have to it.
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What would be great is if the manufacturer included the option to permanently disable the Auto Start/Stop. At present, one needs to modify the software with Forscan or similar. Or...push the button every time you start the vehicle.
BTW, no issues with it on the LC because Auto Start/Stop doesn't exist on that vehicle.
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