Aftermarket Recovery Points any better than the factory 'Tow Hooks'
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Looking at the photos in post #16, the red TRD points aren’t much, if any, thicker around the bolts than the black plate used on the original OEM points. See post #12.
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Not even one time!?!?!?
YetNot even one time!?!?!?
I think that the factory ‘tie down’ points are mainly meant to secure the LC’s on the ship that brings them from Japan.
IIRC, there was something posted a while back about a short blurb in our owners manual about using them for ‘recovery purposes’.
MILD steel…(?)
I don’t have the OEM Specs on the original tow hooks. Here are the specs for the bolts that come with the Victory 4x4 tow hooks. I’m sure you could compare these specs to the OEM. I don’t feel like taking the bolts out and laying them side by side but they are more robust. Someone in this thread is concerned about the radiator support being vulnerable. I suppose that is possible with the OEM radiator support. Look at the Slee heavy duty support bracket. It’s a major upgrade and I believe should alleviate that concern.
Hope this helps in some way.
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The tie down loops are different than the tow hooks. The tie downs are the smaller and thinner loops pointing towards the ground. The tow hooks are the much larger loops pointing forwards. The manual states:
If a tow truck is not available in an emergency, your vehicle may be temporarily towed using cables or chains secured to the emergency towing hooks. This should only be attempted on hard surfaced roads for short distances at under 18 mph (30 km/h).
Not directed at anyone in particular, but…
Don’t make me tap the sign
Don’t make me tap the sign
Perfect - I can just link to this post now instead of explaining it!
Perfect! I didn’t have the patience to go make the whole meme
WOW! Miss Daisy only has the tow loops. There are NO vertical tie-downs whatsoever on Miss Daisy. Thanks for clearing that up.
EDIT:… imadufus, and mildly retarded. Miss Daisy’s tow loops do in fact include the tie down points.
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Thanks, although there’s no indication of grade for the bolt, just the washer. Presumably grade 8 though. If you have a pic showing the bolt head that would make it clear.
The oem bolts appear to be part number 91674-K1245. Unfortunately they have a marking that doesn’t match up with anything I’ve seen, perhaps a JIS or internal Toyota thing. There’s a 1 or a single dash on the heads and that’s it:
Had I seen @RideWithYanu 's experience with the stock tow hooks I would not have purchased after-market ones. But I did buy SXTH Element front tow points that say tested at 11,000lbs and came with hardware to use as well. Now the question is, if getting snatched with a kinetic strap would, or could the force be over 11,000?
The kinetic part of the kinetic recovery strap is a force multiplier.
With that said, the shock to the tow hooks and mounting hardware would be greater with a hard pull with a standard recovery strap once the slack is taken up than it would with the same pull using a kinetic recovery strap. The stretch in the strap acts as a damper against the shock.
With that said, the shock to the tow hooks and mounting hardware would be greater with a hard pull with a standard recovery strap once the slack is taken up than it would with the same pull using a kinetic recovery strap. The stretch in the strap acts as a damper against the shock.
The single dash is just designation for corrosion resistance finish for an ‘AN’ standard bolt. So no high tensile markings.
Both Kinetic and Tow recoveries have their place and when used properly are relatively safe, however the kinetic recoveries are very uncontrolled due to the only known being how much speed your applying and are more dangerous during a failure and snapback situation due more energy (stretch) being stored in the rope. You can easy to apply to much force to the point of failure during a kinetic recocery.
If your properly doing a tow recovery (load it up slowly and use available traction) you can hear and feel if things aren't right before something breaks vs a kinetic where you can't. When using tow recovery properly it's next to impossible to have the strap fail when in good condition and properly rated.
They Kinetic can be much more effective due to the instantaneous application of force being applied and not being fully reliant on traction but rather momentum.
Kinetic recoveries don't dampen the force applied to the equipment much at all when reaching a max stretch scenario but can dampen the force significantly if the vehicle being recovered doesn't require max stretch to get moving, but the double speed doesn't equal double force like most believe so this it where it can go bad quick.
For the snapback danger between the two I'll stick with Traction boards, shovels, tow strap (not apply kinetic force to it) and then winch. No kinetic ropes or straps for me. There is a reason why they don't have kinetic winches!
One other benefit of a Kinetic is it can be safely and properly used as a tow recovery strap while the tow strap shouldn't be used as a kinetic recovery.
Do you research and be safe on the trails, no recovery should result in death, injury or further vehicle damage.
If your properly doing a tow recovery (load it up slowly and use available traction) you can hear and feel if things aren't right before something breaks vs a kinetic where you can't. When using tow recovery properly it's next to impossible to have the strap fail when in good condition and properly rated.
They Kinetic can be much more effective due to the instantaneous application of force being applied and not being fully reliant on traction but rather momentum.
Kinetic recoveries don't dampen the force applied to the equipment much at all when reaching a max stretch scenario but can dampen the force significantly if the vehicle being recovered doesn't require max stretch to get moving, but the double speed doesn't equal double force like most believe so this it where it can go bad quick.
For the snapback danger between the two I'll stick with Traction boards, shovels, tow strap (not apply kinetic force to it) and then winch. No kinetic ropes or straps for me. There is a reason why they don't have kinetic winches!
One other benefit of a Kinetic is it can be safely and properly used as a tow recovery strap while the tow strap shouldn't be used as a kinetic recovery.
Do you research and be safe on the trails, no recovery should result in death, injury or further vehicle damage.
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