2024 Land Cruiser or 2019-2023 Cayenne

[Altitude]

Nice 991.1S. I have a white one in my garage. I will check out the base cayenne as well. If the price is low enough compared to LC, it might sway me towards the Cayenne.

Thanks. That 991.1 was a milestone achieved for me. I’m happy to have it and probably will never replace it.

 

[MSLCFE]

This thread caught my eye!
@Altitude you’ve reached a goal of mine and I am happy for you!!
I have a 982. Initially bought one for the wife and a month later got a second.
With help of another forum member here, we traded that 982 and her diesel wrangler for a 2021 Macan Turbo. Love what you said about the Porsches. They are amazing machines.

 

[MSLCFE]

“likely getting another kid“
getting??

 

[Altitude]

This thread caught my eye!
@Altitude you’ve reached a goal of mine and I am happy for you!!
I have a 982. Initially bought one for the wife and a month later got a second.
With help of another forum member here, we traded that 982 and her diesel wrangler for a 2021 Macan Turbo. Love what you said about the Porsches. They are amazing machines.

Thank you, and that is a beautiful 982!

I had a 2003 Boxster S for a while but had to sell it when a business I owned fell on hard times in 2006. I loved it though and glad I was able to backfill it years later.

 

[D-Train]

Same. I went from an X5 to two successive 5 series sedans to a Tahoe as my daily driver. The Tahoe has been great, actually. One of the things I like best about it is that it’s not so fussy - 60 profile tires so I’m not scraping the wheels against every curb, no air dam to get stuck on parking bars, and it doesn’t look bad dirty.

Also, roads in Colorado are terrible - the constant freeze/thaw cycles all winter keep them that way - and it’s nice to have a vehicle where I don’t always have to worry about that. Presumably the LC will be the same.

I lost a $500 wheel with a $300 tire to a pothole hidden inside of a puddle one time in the second 5 series that had 35 profile tires.

I'm in Denver and DD'ed an M5 for several years. After getting the rims fixed several times, and sitting in stop and go traffic doing 10 mph for years it occurred to me that DD'ing an M5 is just not a great idea here. Don't get me wrong, amazing car and I loved driving it. But what is your time worth maintaining it? I used to joke that the 'M' stood for 'More Money for Maintenance'

 

[Altitude]

I'm in Denver and DD'ed an M5 for several years. After getting the rims fixed several times, and sitting in stop and go traffic doing 10 mph for years it occurred to me that DD'ing an M5 is just not a great idea here. Don't get me wrong, amazing car and I loved driving it. But what is your time worth maintaining it? I used to joke that the 'M' stood for 'More Money for Maintenance'

Yep. There’s a marketing appeal to “let’s make this thing so close to a track car that it’s barely street legal” that has trickled even further than M cars and into the mainstream a bit. It seems sexy but makes for a frustrating ownership experience.

 

[Esquire]

Nice 991.1S. I have a white one in my garage. I will check out the base cayenne as well. If the price is low enough compared to LC, it might sway me towards the Cayenne.

There’s some misinformation running around here about Porsches.

By and large, they are mechanically sound vehicles that are well engineered, substantially overbuilt, and not fussy. They do not often break. Generally speaking the build quality is right up there near the top of the industry.

When they do break, they can be expensive to fix. The parts all have to be imported and since the vehicles aren’t produced in enormous volumes, neither are the parts. Toyota parts are mostly imported too, but so many Toyotas are on the road that the supply system is better developed. The Porsche mechanics themselves are expensive, though I think some of that is a self-perpetuated image of sophistication and knowledge because the cars aren’t really that hard to work on.

Porsches last forever. Anyone lumping them in with Land Rovers in terms of never owning them out of warranty either have not owned Porsches or have been very unlucky owners.

Porsches are not VWs and they are not Audis, despite ownership connections. Other than the diesel engines from a few years ago you won’t find any drivetrain or mechanical parts from VWs or Audis in Porsches. Someone will probably come along and show me a knob or switch in common, which is not what I mean.

I realize what forum I’m on here and I’m not trying to compare Porsches favorably against Toyotas in terms of out-year maintenance expense.

To the OP’s question. If you’re asking sincerely, get a Cayenne. Because if you had a need for the off-road capability of a Land Cruiser you would know it. If you don’t have that need, a Cayenne would probably make you happier day to day. They are excellent vehicles. Apparently the current base model has better performance than the “S” model of just a few years ago.

Here’s the Porsche I am lucky enough to have in my garage.

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Great 997.1 S. I have done the Porsche Track Experience at Barber Motorsports three times. Twice with my dad who was also a 911 guy for many, many years. A great experience.

I have a '16 Black Edition loaded with options including PASM. I am a long time 911 owner and also swear by Porsche 911. They require maintenance, however, they do not disappoint with performance and reliability.

When the Cayenne was first introduced, it was a mechanical nightmare. As was the Panamera. I wouldn't take any of these earlier models as a gift. They have improved as far as I know.

Having a new Land Cruiser and 911 in the garage are a nice mixture of rugged that can be dressed up or down and having a high performing sports car which can be depended on.

 

[REB27]

Great 997.1 S. I have done the Porsche Track Experience at Barber Motorsports three times. Twice with my dad who was also a 911 guy for many, many years. A great experience.

I have a '16 Black Edition loaded with options including PASM. I am a long time 911 owner and also swear by Porsche 911. They require maintenance, however, they do not disappoint with performance and reliability.

When the Cayenne was first introduced, it was a mechanical nightmare. As was the Panamera. I wouldn't take any of these earlier models as a gift. They have improved as far as I know.

Having a new Land Cruiser and 911 in the garage are a nice mixture of rugged that can be dressed up or down and having a high performing sports car which can be depended on.

As a former 911 and Macan owner, totally agree with you. Loved my Porsches but now it’s Land Cruiser and GX550 for us!

 

[No15]

I have a 951, 968, 981 and a cayenne so you might say I am biased. I have had nothing but good luck with my cayenne except the squeaky brakes.

Except for basic shape I don't think the lc250 and cayenne are comparable. They both have their place, the p car is faster and a bit more refined. I would never want to take it to the trail head and beyond. The lc is great but less refined, slower but it has more utility and off road abilities. Horses for courses

 

[Esquire]

My dad had a 1987 Guards Red 951. I don't believe that ever needed anything but servicing and tires....lots of tires. He handed that down to me when I was far too young for a 951 and the insurance company confirmed this.

Seems like Land Cruiser guys are also P-Car guys. Kind of like pro golfers are also fly fishermen.

Agreed. The Cayenne and Land Cruiser only share similarities with the fact they both have 4 wheels. The Land Cruiser is somewhat reminiscent of the Range Rover Sport Supercharged in the appearance department and off-road prowess mixed with a fairly refined highway feel. However, the Land Cruiser is larger and boxier than the RRSS and has much more road presence.

The Cayenne is more in tune with Audi Q8. Sharp and can gobble up a lot of highway miles at high speeds. However, you will still need an SUV/4WD vehicle to trek through snow / mud and haul and tow heavy cargo.

 

[Nor Cal Cruiser]

I am coming from a fully loaded 22 X7. They are very different vehicles, but I adore the LC. It has a ruggedness to it and all the same tech features of the BMW. The ride is a little rougher, but I believe that adds to the charm of the vehicle. As far a power goes the LC feels every bit as powerful in most situations.

I also did the same and while the X7 is a terrific vehicle I don't miss anything about it.