1958 folks.. regrets?

[bigthom]

My 2 cents...

The higher trims feel all hat and no cowboy. I go off-road because it's fun. It is fun because it can be a challenge. I prefer a spotter to a camera, a good line to a massive tire and lift. I like the geometry of getting through an obstacle. If it was about making it simple, we would all be in unimogs on 40's.

I hate the geolanders. But, if they spec'd an A/T tire, Toyota would screw that up. I'll just pick my own, please and thank you. 17" steelies would be cool, then I could snag a set of those 255 BFG pizza cutters rubicon owners sell immediately.

The interior spec of the 1958 is delightfully quirky. I am 6'8" and despise powered seats. They are slow to adjust and limit the overall movement of the seats. Also, I am not sure what yall do waiting for a powered rear hatch, but they are insufferably slow to me. They are not easier to me. They are slow and loud and more complicated. Also, the cloth seats are pretty special. Not your average base trim material.

My interior wish list really is about simplifying.
1. I wish it had full vinyl floors.
2. Want a fold flat cargo area, which would be possible if they hadn't used the tumble-forward seat from the 3rd row spec.

The biggest issue I have with this platform is that it should have a mechanical E-brake. This is the most significant off-road oversight. It almost made me pass up the LC. They could add it in addition to the electronic parking brake even. This is a key piece of safety equipment when off-road and you have to back down a steep incline. Being able to drag a parking brake helps control the vehicle and prevents the heavy front end passing up the rear and flipping the truck.

I have to admit, the sway-bar disconnect is making Toyota thousands. People obsessing if they need it, willing to pay the 10k price difference. My 88 FJ-62 managed without them. So do many other 4WDs. They really seemed to tap into the fomo on this one thing. Rather the locker than the sway-bar disconnect.

The 1958 is 300lbs lighter than the next trim level. That, is not nothing. I can add a roof rack, winch and some cargo and be the same weight over all. THIS MATTERS!

Heated mirrors do seem very important geographically. I don't need them but understand those who do for sure. Seems like an oversight from Toyota.

The round headlights are awesome. Definitely some FJ-60, 70 series vibes. It puts marmite on my toast.

 

[Dusty1]

My 2 cents...

The higher trims feel all hat and no cowboy. I go off-road because it's fun. It is fun because it can be a challenge. I prefer a spotter to a camera, a good line to a massive tire and lift. I like the geometry of getting through an obstacle. If it was about making it simple, we would all be in unimogs on 40's.

I hate the geolanders. But, if they spec'd an A/T tire, Toyota would screw that up. I'll just pick my own, please and thank you. 17" steelies would be cool, then I could snag a set of those 255 BFG pizza cutters rubicon owners sell immediately.

The interior spec of the 1958 is delightfully quirky. I am 6'8" and despise powered seats. They are slow to adjust and limit the overall movement of the seats. Also, I am not sure what yall do waiting for a powered rear hatch, but they are insufferably slow to me. They are not easier to me. They are slow and loud and more complicated. Also, the cloth seats are pretty special. Not your average base trim material.

My interior wish list really is about simplifying.
1. I wish it had full vinyl floors.
2. Want a fold flat cargo area, which would be possible if they hadn't used the tumble-forward seat from the 3rd row spec.

The biggest issue I have with this platform is that it should have a mechanical E-brake. This is the most significant off-road oversight. It almost made me pass up the LC. They could add it in addition to the electronic parking brake even. This is a key piece of safety equipment when off-road and you have to back down a steep incline. Being able to drag a parking brake helps control the vehicle and prevents the heavy front end passing up the rear and flipping the truck.

I have to admit, the sway-bar disconnect is making Toyota thousands. People obsessing if they need it, willing to pay the 10k price difference. My 88 FJ-62 managed without them. So do many other 4WDs. They really seemed to tap into the fomo on this one thing. Rather the locker than the sway-bar disconnect.

The 1958 is 300lbs lighter than the next trim level. That, is not nothing. I can add a roof rack, winch and some cargo and be the same weight over all. THIS MATTERS!

Heated mirrors do seem very important geographically. I don't need them but understand those who do for sure. Seems like an oversight from Toyota.

The round headlights are awesome. Definitely some FJ-60, 70 series vibes. It puts marmite on my toast.

Agree on the floor, I’d much rather have entire floor of rubberized, easy clean material than the thin, cardboard “carpet”. Not that it is terrible by any means…

Also the lack of heated mirrors is one of those weird Toyota mysteries, especially in Midwest. Seems it could have been included as a cold weather package, after all we get a heated steering wheel. Not a huge thing either, just seems an odd oversight. Overall though, I couldn’t be happier, love driving the 1958, makes me happy.

 

[Jack_]

"The 1958 is 300lbs lighter than the next trim level. That, is not nothing. I can add a roof rack, winch and some cargo and be the same weight over all. THIS MATTERS!"

I did not know that and agreed, it does matter.

 

[ct1958]

No regrets. Tech stuff changes every few years; I'm fine with what I have screen size.
I prefer cloth over leather. My heated seats get really hot. I will like never take this thing on more than a fire road so SDM is not a want/need for me. I love the ride and the room inside.

 

[gregh]

None at all.

I will probably make a 4" high drawer system to create a flat cargo area though.

 

[Noctilucent]

None at all.

I will probably make a 4" high drawer system to create a flat cargo area though.
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Ive been thinking of doing the same.

 

[ovʀʟxnᴅ]

Heated mirrors do seem very important geographically. I don't need them but understand those who do for sure. Seems like an oversight from Toyota.

I have very limited experience with this, but turn on your headlights and activate front and rear defrost. My mirrors cleared. I typically travel with a laser thermometer. In this instance, I did not, so I can't verify what happened, but I suspect this is in an undocumented feature.

 

[Futha]

I'm one of the people who would actually buy a new 70 series, and I find it insane that so many people in the LC community also say they would buy the 70 series... and then proceed to nitpick luxury and tech gimmicks on the 250.

I got the 1958 because it is most true to what I envision the Land Cruiser to be. Yes, absolutely moreso than a 200/300 series.

 

[Rubicon15]

Waffling over my future purchase. LC vs GX. Background I've owned a new 2016 Trail Ed 4Runner with KDSS and upgraded to a 17 GX460 with need for a 3rd row when we had kids. Both were nice offerings and I loved owning both of them. I'm looking to move back into the Toyota/Lexus camp after owning an F150 for a few years. I was leaning GX, but the lack of efficiency isn't doing it for me and I prefer the styling and hybrid of the LC.

With the decision to move on an LC, I'm all over the map on the 1958 vs LC trim. I much prefer the idea of a bare bones LC. I love the round headlights and more rugged interior. I'm getting over the unpainted plastic bumpers up front and for that reason would probably go with black color to match it or possibly meteor shower to make it blend better. I'm surprised Toyota didn't body paint the 1958 up front. Obviously the question remains..for a few more grand we can spec an LC trim and there is the dilemma.

For the current 1958 owners is there any feature you feel would have been nice stepping up a trim? Many of the features are fluff me in the LC trim , but I'm used to 360 cameras, memory seats (wife and I are not even close driving position wise) etc in my truck. They are not deal breakers. With younger kids it appears the 1958 would possibly hold up a bit better to the wear and tear of an active family? The price is so close I'm trying to figure out the best move. My dealer has no LCs at all in stock, but a 1958 is coming in next week and I can take a look at it at least to make a more informed opinion.

On the positive side, front bumpers are prone to rock chips. I actually prefer the all black plastic. Never have to deal with those unsightly chips.

 

[PC3]

Not a 1958 regret, so much as a LC regret. Have thoroughly enjoyed 10 months of driving the car, but hit by a rock while driving on the freeway and windshield got a substantial crack in it that cannot be filled. There's an indefinite wait to get the OEM windshield and the cost is somewhere between $1,200 and $1,800 depending on whether it needs calibration. My insurance will cover, but if the part isn't available, nothing they can do about that. After-market are also not available and equally expensive. This issue pre-dated tariffs. I've called various dealerships and corporate and nothing. This is the same issue that faces many Jeeps, and if I new this was going to be a problem, I would have either waited to purchase the car or gone with something else. Disappointing to say the least and something to keep in mind for those interested in the LC. Until parts generally become more available, these vehicles operate at a degree of risk if they are your daily driver.

 

[nollasjr]

The 1958 edition has all the tech I want and nothing more. I considered multiple options, and the 1958 LC checked every box I had for needs and most for wants. To be fair, I have a 3rd Gen Taco that is highly modified for dedicated off-road use. The LC is my daily driver and the family travel vehicle, so I didn't want the additional future failure points.