Vibrations on 2025 LandCruiser

[RoadWarrior]

Good day,

Constant vibrations when driving on highways (probably same in city but much less)

I have two sets of the original Toyota 20’’. One with winter tires, one with regular tires (stock from Toyota).

The first year, I used both wheels and it was fine no issues.

Since they put back the regular tires in April, I’ve been having constant vibrations. Balanced the tires 3 times and road force one time.

I use an app called NVH on iPhone AppStore , before road force test the vibration was mainly T1 type (once per rotation) with higher amplitude. After road force, now T2 (twice per rotation) is the main one with less amplitude. The app is also calling for drive shaft vibrations.

Let me know if you have same or similar problems.

Thanks

PS - I really like the truck but this is very annoying.

 

[ultane]

Welcome to the asylum.

I hope you can get this sorted out.

I once found hardened mud stuck to the inner surface of two wheels (another vehicle) that was making them vibrate. I thoroughly cleaned them, and all was well again.

 

[handy]

Do you offroad or drive regularly on bumpy roads? If so something could be loose that's coincidental to the tire change.

 

[Esquire]

I once found hardened mud stuck to the inner surface of two wheels (another vehicle) that was making them vibrate. I thoroughly cleaned them, and all was well again.

For reference and direction, please refer to the movie, "My Cousin Vinny."

 

[MSINAL]

Good day,

Constant vibrations when driving on highways (probably same in city but much less)

I have two sets of the original Toyota 20’’. One with winter tires, one with regular tires (stock from Toyota).

The first year, I used both wheels and it was fine no issues.

Since they put back the regular tires in April, I’ve been having constant vibrations. Balanced the tires 3 times and road force one time.

I use an app called NVH on iPhone AppStore , before road force test the vibration was mainly T1 type (once per rotation) with higher amplitude. After road force, now T2 (twice per rotation) is the main one with less amplitude. The app is also calling for drive shaft vibrations.

Let me know if you have same or similar problems.

Thanks

PS - I really like the truck but this is very annoying.

Could be several things, but rule out water inside the tires. A good tech should be able to figure it out. I had similar issue and was ultimately defective tires.

 

[ultane]

For reference and direction, please refer to the movie, "My Cousin Vinny."

It’s been many decades since I have seen that.

 

[stec06]

Started experiencing something similar... a new drivetrain noise that emits a hum / whirring sound at 35mph and 50mph. Once I get up to highway speeds it seems to disappear. It's also not noticable under 35mph. Moving the shifter to neutral doesn't change it. Tires are nearly new Defender MS2s that have been rotated once or twice already (they are supposed to last a long, long time). I don't see any wheel weights missing and there's no real corresponding vibration in the steering wheel. Vehicle is about to hit 55k. Really hoping it's not a wheel bearing already, or something more serious with the driveshaft or transmission.

 

[wpage]

Give it a good under inspection. While down there lube your drive shaft. See if possible friction issues have taken place. Or if something is out of whack...

 

[stec06]

Give it a good under inspection. While down there lube your drive shaft. See if possible friction issues have taken place. Or if something is out of whack...

Yeah, I'm not 100% sure what to look for. Unfortunately about to take a weekend trip to the coast and I'm anxious to see if it gets worse. Approaching the 55k service interval and still within warranty if it ends up being something gnarly like a U joint or wheel bearing.

 

[05Moose]

I’ve been dealing with the same. Always fun getting discount tire to balance them correctly. On my 3rd trip in (were road force balanced on trip #2), they said they were out of balance. They seemed much better. Before this last balance, they were smooth in certain speed ranges. After trip 3, they were finally smooth in 65-75 mph range. Now it seems like they’re vibrating (small bounces) in the 50-70 range. I’m wondering if it threw a weight. Still a PITA to deal with. I’m wondering if the soft suspension is exacerbating a tiny imbalance. (Running Toyota TRD 18” with D-rated K03 tires)

 

[Matthew@LC250Mods]

I’ve been dealing with the same. Always fun getting discount tire to balance them correctly. On my 3rd trip in (were road force balanced on trip #2), they said they were out of balance. They seemed much better. Before this last balance, they were smooth in certain speed ranges. After trip 3, they were finally smooth in 65-75 mph range. Now it seems like they’re vibrating (small bounces) in the 50-70 range. I’m wondering if it threw a weight. Still a PITA to deal with. I’m wondering if the soft suspension is exacerbating a tiny imbalance. (Running Toyota TRD 18” with D-rated K03 tires)

Discount tire purposely desensitizes their machines to green light just about everything, even if severely out of round. Their 'road force' procedure is not a true road force balance as they do not actually rotate tires on the bead until the runout is as low as it can be. They simply use their Hunter road force balancer as a regular spin balancer, with custom settings allowing quicker service time. Your local Toyota dealer or 4x4 specialty shop should be able to get the tires as good as they can possibly be. From there, you can determine if one or more tires needs replacement.

 

[bigcat]

I am surprised a tire shop like Discount Tire can't be trusted to balance tires correctly. I recently used them (first time) to install my Dueler A/T Ascents, and wondering if that was a good move. I think I've read many posts from other members here that have also used that chain as well. Can you give an example of a "4x4 specialty shop"?

 

[Mondalee]

Good day,

Constant vibrations when driving on highways (probably same in city but much less)

I have two sets of the original Toyota 20’’. One with winter tires, one with regular tires (stock from Toyota).

The first year, I used both wheels and it was fine no issues.

Since they put back the regular tires in April, I’ve been having constant vibrations. Balanced the tires 3 times and road force one time.

I use an app called NVH on iPhone AppStore , before road force test the vibration was mainly T1 type (once per rotation) with higher amplitude. After road force, now T2 (twice per rotation) is the main one with less amplitude. The app is also calling for drive shaft vibrations.

Let me know if you have same or similar problems.

Thanks

PS - I really like the truck but this is very annoying.

Try swapping your winter wheel set back on for a quick test drive. If the vibration disappears completely, you then know for sure the problem is from that specific summer tire and wheel assembly.

 

[cmarshall1008]

In snow, my LC had a bad habit of out of balanced wheels. The snow was stuck inside the wheels. I carry a wood paint stirrer to knock off the ice and snow that seems to stick easily.

 

[Matthew@LC250Mods]

I am surprised a tire shop like Discount Tire can't be trusted to balance tires correctly. I recently used them (first time) to install my Dueler A/T Ascents, and wondering if that was a good move. I think I've read many posts from other members here that have also used that chain as well. Can you give an example of a "4x4 specialty shop"?

Something like RPM Offroad Garage in CA would be a good example. There aren't lots of good ones in my area but my local Toyota dealer does a great job.

Have you had any issues with your balance? If it runs smoothly, going there wasn't a mistake. In a perfect world, no tire would need to be road forced, but in reality, many do and the larger and heavier the tire, the more helpful it becomes.

 

[ultane]

In snow, my LC had a bad habit of out of balanced wheels. The snow was stuck inside the wheels. I carry a wood paint stirrer to knock off the ice and snow that seems to stick easily.

BTDT with my Subaru in Idaho.

 

[stec06]

I wish mine were as simple as mud or snow stuck to a wheel, but I'm fairly certain at this point it's a wheel bearing. Appointment at the dealer this Saturday to sort it out.

 

[D-mac]

Discount tire purposely desensitizes their machines to green light just about everything, even if severely out of round. Their 'road force' procedure is not a true road force balance as they do not actually rotate tires on the bead until the runout is as low as it can be. They simply use their Hunter road force balancer as a regular spin balancer, with custom settings allowing quicker service time.

I suspect this would be an individual shop or Toyota dealer management decision, and not a corporate policy. Some shops just want to sell tires as fast as they can, but others will not want upset customers that keep coming back to rebalance their tires, and never buy tires from them again. Agree that an independent 4x4 or alignment specialist would not survive very long on bad service.
I also suspect the OP's tire shop would have an easier time balancing heavier winter tires on smaller/lighter wheels than the OEM 20s, but others here have had success with upsized tires on the 20s.

 

[stec06]

Dealership didn't successfully diagnose my particular noise issue. They rotated, aligned, and rebalanced the wheels...said everything under the LC looked good...but still an obvious noise around 50mph. Had the tech drive it, and he acknowledged the noise after they did the various service items. Service advisor at first tried bullshitting me by saying that Michelin Defenders were aggressive tires.

 

[MSINAL]

Dealership didn't successfully diagnose my particular noise issue. They rotated, aligned, and rebalanced the wheels...said everything under the LC looked good...but still an obvious noise around 50mph. Had the tech drive it, and he acknowledged the noise after they did the various service items. Service advisor at first tried bullshitting me by saying that Michelin Defenders were aggressive tires.

Did you try your other set of wheels?
Did dealer take tires off rims and Inspect? Had similar issue on another vehicle, it was the michelin tires. Changed tires and problem solved. Waste of $1300.