TPMS set up for new wheels/tires from another LC

[basicxj]

I have yellow low tire warning and "setting wheel position while driving" message.

Your later post explains why that is.

When I was shopping for a second set of wheels and tires, there were many posts complaining that OEM TPMS modules were very expensive. I can understand why that would be a downer for those buying wheels/tires where the TPMS had been removed.

I bought four new in box Toyota wheels on the secondary market and one matching from the dealer so I knew there were no TPMS included- I believe I paid just under $80 per TPMS through the dealer with some negotiation.

 

[Viktorv1961]

Tire shop will charge me $150 to remove the original TPMS' from 20"s and install them into new 18" wheels. Seller apologized and sent me $75 via PayPal. He is pretty far away for me and I chose not to drive over there to return the wheels. Initial price for the set was reasonable($750) so I got new rims and tires.
Interesting thing- I drove on new 18" FE style wheels for couple of hundred miles and my mileage improved for about 2 mpg. I wonder if it is because 18" rims are about 12 lbs lighter? And ride is definitely better on my bumpy country roads.

 

[basicxj]

Tire shop will charge me $150 to remove the original TPMS' from 20"s and install them into new 18" wheels. Seller apologized and sent me $75 via PayPal. He is pretty far away for me and I chose not to drive over there to return the wheels. Initial price for the set was reasonable($750) so I got new rims and tires.
Interesting thing- I drove on new 18" FE style wheels for couple of hundred miles and my mileage improved for about 2 mpg. I wonder if it is because 18" rims are about 12 lbs lighter? And ride is definitely better on my bumpy country roads.

I found the same in terms of ride on 18" compared to 20". I went with a larger tire, so any mileage improvements from weight savings was a wash based on the taller/wider rubber meeting the road.

 

[Litto.Cruisie]

Sure- your Land Cruiser can learn two sets of five wheels & tires. Once learned, you can select between set 1 and set 2.

In the menus in the instrument cluster, select “TPWS” after swapping to your new wheels/tires. Select “Learn New Valve IDs” and go for a drive at speed. The new TPMS should register at all four corners plus spare.

Pro tip (if you can learn from the mistakes of others):

Do not store your original set near where you park your vehicle, close enough for it to pick up the TPMS from the originals. It will confuse the vehicle.

I purchase a new set of 4 tires for winter and the TPMS should be programmed to my 2025 Land cruiser. When i swap the tires, does that mean i need to take off my spare tire in order for the car to pick up the 4 new TPMS?

 

[cvx5832LC]

You have to initiate recognition of the new TPMS sensors. If they're already recognized, there's a separate rotation-only command that re-recognizes the position only, spare included.

 

[Litto.Cruisie]

You have to initiate recognition of the new TPMS sensors. If they're already recognized, there's a separate rotation-only command that re-recognizes the position only, spare included.

Is this process Page 560 of the manual?

1 Park the vehicle in a safe place, turn the power switch off and wait 15 minutes or more.
2 Start the hybrid system.The ID code registration procedure cannot be performed while the vehicle is moving.
3 Select on the multiinformation display
4 Select “Vehicle Settings”.
5 Select “TPWS setting”.
6 Select “Tire Set Switching”.
7 Select “Register New Valve / ID”.
8 Select the wheel set (“Tire Set 1” or “Tire Set 2”) you wish to register.
9 Select “Yes”.

 

[RideWithYanu]

Is this process Page 560 of the manual?

1 Park the vehicle in a safe place, turn the power switch off and wait 15 minutes or more.
2 Start the hybrid system.The ID code registration procedure cannot be performed while the vehicle is moving.
3 Select on the multiinformation display
4 Select “Vehicle Settings”.
5 Select “TPWS setting”.
6 Select “Tire Set Switching”.
7 Select “Register New Valve / ID”.
8 Select the wheel set (“Tire Set 1” or “Tire Set 2”) you wish to register.
9 Select “Yes”.

Yep

 

[Litto.Cruisie]

You have to initiate recognition of the new TPMS sensors. If they're already recognized, there's a separate rotation-only command that re-recognizes the position only, spare included.

Just to clarify, i called the shop that sold me the tires, and they use "MAX Sensor Gen 5 (made by ATEQ)" brand TPMS and they said its already programed to my land cruiser.

Will the Landcruiser recognize the new TPMS once i install the new Wheels and "initiate recognition process" (Page 560) of new TPMS or do i need to buy a OBD2 reader?

 

[basicxj]

Just to clarify, i called the shop that sold me the tires, and they use "MAX Sensor Gen 5 (made by ATEQ)" brand TPMS and they said its already programed to my land cruiser.

Will the Landcruiser recognize the new TPMS once i install the new Wheels and "initiate recognition process" (Page 560) of new TPMS or do i need to buy a OBD2 reader?

I used OEM TPMS on ours when I swapped wheels/tires. I suspect if your aftermarket TPMS are/were recognized by the vehicle, the dash settings will do.

You'll only need to monkey with an OBDII reader if the vehicle sets an error associated with the tire pressure monitoring system that says "see your dealer." If it does, an OBDII Bluetooth or WiFi reader with something like Carista should set things straight, though a stand alone code reader compatible with late model Toyotas should do as well if you already plan on going that route.

 

[RideWithYanu]

Just to clarify, i called the shop that sold me the tires, and they use "MAX Sensor Gen 5 (made by ATEQ)" brand TPMS and they said its already programed to my land cruiser.

Will the Landcruiser recognize the new TPMS once i install the new Wheels and "initiate recognition process" (Page 560) of new TPMS or do i need to buy a OBD2 reader?

Yep again. But it may be slow or not work the first time. There are many posts here with troubleshooting tips if you run into an issue.

 

[Bad1975]

Any sensor at the proper frequency, 315MHz IIRC will work. Typically, the aftermarket sensor batteries won't last a long as OEM.

I just had to replace my first set of Toyota TPMS sensors for the batteries starting go after 14 years, where I've had an aftermarket sensor fail within 7 years for low battery.

Oh, and typically unless a high end OBDII system is being used you can't clear TPMS faults or do TPMS configurations either. Since this is part of the safety system and uses Toyota specific fault codes (not generic) you can't muck around with them, same as ABS and ADAS stuff. You need a high end OBDII tool or a specific TPMS tool for this.

 

[basicxj]

Any sensor at the proper frequency, 315MHz IIRC will work. Typically, the aftermarket sensor batteries won't last a long as OEM.

I just had to replace my first set of Toyota TPMS sensors for the batteries starting go after 14 years, where I've had an aftermarket sensor fail within 7 years for low battery.

Oh, and typically unless a high end OBDII system is being used you can't clear TPMS faults or do TPMS configurations either. Since this is part of the safety system and uses Toyota specific fault codes (not generic) you can't muck around with them, same as ABS and ADAS stuff. You need a high end OBDII tool or a specific TPMS tool for this.

I respect your input and knowledge here on the forum.

When I swapped wheels and tires and had my old tires/wheels/TPMS sensors close by it confused the monitoring system and it dropped the new spare I had hanging under the cargo floor once I was on the road. It generated a TPMS error and propagated a huge pop-up on the dash cluster urging me to "see the dealer." All the tire pressure sensors then showed as dashes after the error was set. I made an appointment at the dealer when one was available.

I had a Bluetooth OBDII dongle from my last vehicle. While waiting for the Mrs. at a doctor's appointment, I downloaded the Carista app fully expecting to have to order their OBDII adapter to work with the software. Much to my surprise, it worked with my existing OBDII reader and Carista was able to clear the code generated by my TPMS error in the parking lot. I set the dash cluster to "Register New TPWS Valves," went for a drive at highway speeds and was able to resolve my issue and get all five tire pressures back online. I cancelled the dealer appointment and haven't had an issue with TPMS since. I am not going to suggest Carista is comparable to a capable stand alone code reader (It's not), but I am a little surprised that it can do what it does. I'd say it is comparable to the JScan app I used on my Jeep- I was able to do some adaptations, bleed my ABS module, read & clear codes, see fuel trims in real time etc.

 

[Bad1975]

@basicxj It sounds like the Carista has some Bi-directional capability which is pretty amazing at that price point, an outlier if you will.

For the short read, just do your research before purchasing or you could be disappointed.

The long:

I'm just passing along some caution on these things as they can easily not perform what the customer is purchasing them for. If doing anything more than basic generic code reading, check to make sure the device supports the Manufacturer specific codes, pending codes and is Bi-directional if wanting or needing to run advanced tests or perform calibrations and such for the vehicle/s you are intending to use it on.

For instance: I have an older Autel which is great for portability, but it won't reading pending codes or specific codes on Toyota vehicles which was recently a big deal since I was having a start ability issue with no check engine light and that device found no codes, few days later I purchased TIS subscription to use GTS+ with my interface and it pulled up 3 codes all pending and Toyota specific. During diagnosis I got a new high end Autel which does specific, pending and Bi-Directional for the portability to aide in diagnosing and troubleshooting a laptop just makes that too much of a hassle when constantly moving around and for driving and data monitoring/datalogging.

Even some pretty pricey Bi-Directional units can't perform ADAS/ABS/TPMS (safety related items).