The Land Cruiser legacy is a lot more to me than exclusivity. Those chasing a vehicle for its ability to make them feel special should discuss that with their therapist.
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I see it as a utilitarian SUV with some extra features. It's not wood and tech clad like a G Wagon or the even the GX. It's not my wife's Summit Reserve Grand Cherokee with massaging seats. It is though pretty damn capable, really comfortable (for me), and although I know it's not truly LC lineage, I'm proud to own it. I don't think it's exclusive, hell it was only 70K which seems common for upper end middle of the road vehicles or lower end of high end vehicles. As we all know it's a mix of 4Runner and Tundra bits with some of these seaming questionable, it's got an odd power plant, but one thing I'm certain of after 10,000 miles, I won't be Jeep poor in three years right after my warranty runs out! lol
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I think most of us on here love our LC's for various reasons, and quite frankly, if you don't own one yet you're on here contributing, go see a therapist and get the F lost after you find something better to do with your time.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I think most of us on here love our LC's for various reasons, and quite frankly, if you don't own one yet you're on here contributing, go see a therapist and get the F lost after you find something better to do with your time.
How so?
Yeah, honestly it's this mindset that's a huge part of the reason it gets harsh reviews from a lot of the other YT car "personalities"...because it very much is. It's not a vehicle in the same branch of the family tree as the outgoing 200 series, but it's still just as much a "Land Cruiser" as any other light-duty series (aka "prado") or ANY LC model for that matter that Toyota has stamped the name on....just because the previous light-duty models weren't available in the US doesn't make them any less of a "Land Cruiser"...at least not as far as Toyota is concerned, and that's good enough for me.
The original "Land Cruiser" name was about being able to go anywhere, not about being a flagship luxury vehicle...If you want all of the bells and whistles and premium luxury features, I'm sure Toyota would be happy to sell you a Lexus LX.
So many former LC buyers thought they were buying a Lexus , Range Rover, Betanyaga etc. Cmon, folks it was a Toyota, granted a very nice Toyota but.........even VW learned a badge will only carry you so far with the failure of the Phaeton.What they di makes 100% sense to me and sales prove . Sometimes ignoring the whiners has its advantages.
Only an IDIOT would say not of the lineage. proves they don't know jack about land cruisers. And Yanu, direct statement is not LAME
Only an IDIOT would say not of the lineage. proves they don't know jack about land cruisers. And Yanu, direct statement is not LAME
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Because in the rest of the world Toyota sells it as a Prado and has for some time now, and definitely prior to Toyota marketing it as an LC here in the US.
You're right, I'm an idiot
That’s not remotely accurate - it’s objectively false, and it reflects a very US-centric perspective that shows a basic misunderstanding of Land Cruiser history.
Toyota has always treated the Prado as a Land Cruiser. From the moment it was created in the mid-1980s, it was designed, engineered, and globally marketed as the light-duty Land Cruiser. Toyota’s own lineage materials place every Prado generation squarely inside the Land Cruiser family. This has been true for decades - since they launched the line.
The confusion comes almost entirely from the US. The US only ever saw the big wagon called “Land Cruiser,” while the Prado platform was sold here as the Lexus GX. That branding choice created the illusion that Prado was something seperate, or newly adopted. Outside the US, that idea makes no sense. In Australia, the Middle East, Africa, Europe, and Asia, Prado has long been understood as a Land Cruiser (though I’m sure most aussies would simply call it a Prado), full stop.
This is why may American Land Cruiser owners reject the Prado as a Land Cruiser - because they don’t really understand the history of the brand outside of their limited exposure to it via station wagons and Lexus-badged versions. In other words…they aren’t enthusiasts.
I’ll take your word on it. (I don’t actually think so, but I had to seize the joke opportunity!)
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Exclusivity? Ownership of a car seems an odd thing to label as exclusive. She. I see other cruisers out there I just think nice that guy or gal there made a good decision too.
As for the lineage idiocy, all of you think of your family name say it’s Brown. You’ve got PHD’s, attorneys, unemployed, whatever but still all from that same family tree. You’re all Browns and some just a bit different from the rest but still a Brown. Father Toyota put the LC name on there just like they do the Prado. Anyways, maybe some 200 and 300 drivers think the 250 is cousin Eddie but hey it’s by every measure an improvement from my 60 series and still in the family.
As for the lineage idiocy, all of you think of your family name say it’s Brown. You’ve got PHD’s, attorneys, unemployed, whatever but still all from that same family tree. You’re all Browns and some just a bit different from the rest but still a Brown. Father Toyota put the LC name on there just like they do the Prado. Anyways, maybe some 200 and 300 drivers think the 250 is cousin Eddie but hey it’s by every measure an improvement from my 60 series and still in the family.
Along with that, the name "Prado" has traditionally only been used in certain markets where both the flagship wagon series AND the light-duty series are available, e.g. Austrailia...but regardless, even in those markets, it's always been a "Land Cruiser Prado"
Why not just a Land Cruiser? Why did Toyota add the Prado? Not arguing, asking.
Because, as I said, they've done that in markets where multiple LC models were sold, like Australia, obviously to provide some differentiation...it's still odd though, because I'm pretty sure both the 70 series and 300 series available there are just branded as "Land Cruiser".
I'll also add that in Japan, they've dropped the "Prado" name in that market, and now just have the "Land Cruiser 250", "Land Cruiser 300", etc.
Really do like our Land Cruiser. Reviewers be damned. I see many car reviews in the same light as a movie reviews. There are some movie that get horribly bad reviews but I find them quite entertaining. The Boondock Saints comes to mind.
Our Land Cruiser may not be perfect but it’s plenty capable of delivering on what’s its engineering is designed to do and delivering a nice sarcastic punch in the face to any other vehicles it comes up against. Give it few mods and it’s the equivalent of an off-road Irish mobster. Hated by many but loved by family. I am Land Cruiser family….
Our Land Cruiser may not be perfect but it’s plenty capable of delivering on what’s its engineering is designed to do and delivering a nice sarcastic punch in the face to any other vehicles it comes up against. Give it few mods and it’s the equivalent of an off-road Irish mobster. Hated by many but loved by family. I am Land Cruiser family….
This!!I'm getting a new LC LC because it's basically a 4Runner with better seating position and better visibility, not because it has some aura from the Land Cruiser legacy.
I really like the full time 4x4, the sway bar disconnect, and the boxy styling, but those are just gravy.
I could care less about exclusivity. Sorry if the riff raff like me are ruining the neighborhood
land cruiser Prado 250 series in AUSTRALIA is the best land cruiser Prado what I have 2.8L DIESEL 48V 8KW !!!!
Don’t rub it into our American faces that we’re not allowed to have the diesel engine!
The LC 250 is market appropriate for the US with upgraded tech. I have wheeled it and towed a 4200lb camper with no issues, and it kills on US road infrastructure The LC 200 was overkill and outdated for the USA. I owned two. I have driven the LC 200 all over in the Middle East (Jordan, Iraq, UAE) for years and the 5.8 low compression, low power, heavy weight engine was necessary for rural refueling, because you never know what you're going to get. Granted, we now pay for high octane fuel and reliability is a ? along with the battery. 20 yr service glass is missed. All of us on this forum are curious how long our 250s will last. I have faith!
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