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[b407driver]

One situation that still catches me by surprise is when there's an off ramp and it tries to steer that direction. I'm used to it and hardly notice now, but it's still a little weird.

Mine routinely did that for the first 8000 miles or so, but now it almost never does it; when the right lane line disappears for an exit, the LC now hugs the left line with nary a wobble. I have no idea why the behavior has changed, but it works nearly perfectly now. My wife's RAV4 Prime with SSv2.0 always goes for the offramp.

 

[basicxj]

@RideWithYanu , how has your experince with active cruise controll with lane centering been. For me it seems like the vehicle goes to one side of the road corrects and then goes back back and corrects agian. Seems like a drunk driver driving

“Officer- it was my adaptive cruise control and lane control assistance doing the swerving- honest!”

 

[Sugarloafer80]

I use the auto pilot (Lane following and radar speed) all the time. I put my elbow on my window level elbow pad, two fingers on the wheel and put on a book on tape.

I find at 65mph set and in the middle lane it does really well. Great way to go from point A - B on the highway without much fuss.

I would delete it permanently.

 

[Sugarloafer80]

You do you, but I have seen the results of people with "experience" using cruise at the wrong time......

Just because you did something for years, doesn't mean it is a good idea.... Worked a lot of accidents where peoples luck ran out.

Not everyone has advanced training, racing schools, instructing skills etc under their belt...I get it...Smooth is fast, smotth keeps a car tracking, smooth gets you out of a lot of trouble.. Auto nanny controlled smooth differs from traditional Cruise quite a bit. One thing that sucks is not being able to manually downshift a gear in advance of long inclines without it cancelling CC. That , I guess, is too smooth for technology.

 

[RideWithYanu]

Not everyone has advanced training, racing schools, instructing skills etc under their belt...I get it...Smooth is fast, smotth keeps a car tracking, smooth gets you out of a lot of trouble.. Auto nanny controlled smooth differs from traditional Cruise quite a bit. One thing that sucks is not being able to manually downshift a gear in advance of long inclines without it cancelling CC. That , I guess, is too smooth for technology.

I’m not discounting your experience at all, but the advanced driving schools I went through (mostly through the state department’s programs but also some others through DoD contracts) all had the same message on cruise control on low-traction surfaces: don’t use it, ever. The racing schools I went to did not speak on cruise control at all.

 

[Sugarloafer80]

When I was driving thru a borderline whiteout in december, I left cruise at ~40mph (damn slow for me) This allowed full attention to my limited vision without having to monitor speed on roads I have driven for 45+yrs. All straight ahead for miles. I was looking for the reflectors left and right as well as the topograhy and lights in front of me........NONE. One guy behind me for 30 minutes slowly closed up the gap. I let him by. He gave me a big thumbs up and he led with me well behind so my lights did not impair his vision another 15 minutes till he got off and gave me the truckers thank you flash.
I would never expect those programs to recommend that. Govt liability...CYA mentality......
My Foot is hovered directly over brake so that reaction would be faster than a throttle to brake move. In my hands it allows complete visual focus on road, surroundings etc. I rarely even looked at the HUD.

Back on topic, seen as I didn't have to keep staring at the dash, I didn't care about the warning light BS....at least the systems stayed operational..RR would shut down even if you shut of the radar aspect. Total PIA

 

[RideWithYanu]

These programs had nothing to do with liability or CYA - it was quite the opposite. These were not trainings for conventional troops or agencies, they were trainings for the highest stakes events and focused on mission success over all else. For example, how to get a diplomat into or out of an area regardless of cost. How to drive through barricades, issue suppressive or dispersive fire while manning the wheel, etc. So in other words, they were solely focused on driving performance, and they were taught by actual leading experts in the field. Many advanced driving schools open to the average civilian are led by volunteers or commercial entities which in fact do need to consider liability. I’ve taken some of those through racing schools and experienced what you noted: they are heavily focused on CYA, and most of the instructors have little practical experience outside of the racetrack - they certainly have never been pressure tested under extreme conditions.

 

[izzysanchez]

Before buying the 2024 LC, my "new" land cruiser was a 1997, and all other vehicless older. So, I Iove all the electronics, sorry, its cool as hell to relax and get some help while driving.

When I want to go back and do constant steering, and experience "suggestive braking", I go drive one of the solid axle monsters. And I still love those too. There is room for both in my mind.

 

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Toyota needs to work out some bugs in these somewhat helpful systems. Users beware, some of the problems especially for new owners can be hazardous to ones health, and others.