💵 For Sale SCAMMER ALERT

[TEQJ250]

I’m sure the admins can also check and see if the two accounts have shared the same ip address.

I’m almost certain this is the same person. They can hide behind a VPN to mask their location.

 

[whyzee125]

I’m almost certain this is the same person. They can hide behind a VPN to mask their location.

You can clearly see @Scaboh's pics are AI-edited. Look at @Wavedave's paper note size. It's almost as big as the rack itself, not to mention both of them do their dates backwards of how anyone in the U.S. would write them.

Double scammer.

Not to mention the bogus invoice

 

[tvh]

You can clearly see @Scaboh's pics are AI-edited. Look at @Wavedave's paper note size. It's almost as big as the rack itself, not to mention both of them do their dates backwards of how anyone in the U.S. would write them.

Double scammer.

Not to mention the bogus invoice

Look at how the crossbars are on top of the main bar on one side, but under it on the other.

That’s one huge piece of paper. I’ve seen some huge papers, but that’s the biggest—and trust me, I know the biggest.

All that aside, there's clear evidence of these guys using someone else’s pictures for their profile.

 

[supersix]

You can clearly see @Scaboh's pics are AI-edited. Look at @Wavedave's paper note size. It's almost as big as the rack itself, not to mention both of them do their dates backwards of how anyone in the U.S. would write them.

Double scammer.

Not to mention the bogus invoice

Both of these accounts have been banned. Thanks for reporting this to us.

 

[ultane]

He messaged me as well for some runnings boards. The date is in an odd format too. Not odd for the rest of the world, but in the U.S. strange. That invoice also has that weird date format.

Welcome to the asylum.

 

[Curtice]

Man I'm grateful for my spidey-sense. I agreed in principle on a deal on a rack a little while back with wavedave, but it just didn't smell right and I backed out. I didn't dig nearly as deep as all of this and didn't notice the details yall did, but just a couple of things felt off and they wouldn't accept paypal as payment (for sales protection).

 

[Esquire]

Ok, so I’m just going to transparently add what I’ve found here, and those involved can explain it away. I am suspect at this point, but hoping to have my suspicions proven incorrect.

@Wavedave: nice profile pic:
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Your profile says you reside in Denver, CO. But the LC in your image was for sale at Pinto Auto Group in NJ? Not impossible, but definitely a flag:
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And then there’s that invoice. Yes, the zip code on your’s is another Boulder zip code, but what about that data of invoice and shipment?
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@Scaboh:
Nice profile pic:
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Profile says Miami, FL. But this is a grab from a Darren Dorfman’s post:
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And he’s up here in Virginia next to me:
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Which is weird since we orbit a lot of the same circles. Maybe I’ll reach out directly there too.

Again, red flags don’t automatically equal scam. But neither of you have seriously contributed or publicly shared any media. Both of your LC profile pics are probably lifted from facebook. That’s at least a lot of WTF.

He just sent me a picture asking to clear this up once and for all.
He said this is his LC sitting in this garage this morning.
Seems legit to me….

 

[RideWithYanu]

His photo of his Land Cruiser sitting in his garage is a stock photo of a Land Cruiser outdoors on a dirt road. He’s not trying very hard, is he? Pretty funny.

 

[DubDub]

He just sent me a picture asking to clear this up once and for all.
He said this is his LC sitting in this garage this morning.
Seems legit to me….

I am so torn on issues like this one because I have a busy work and home life, and I deal with so much drama in the rooms where I am actually responsible to my members to make an honest effort to provide safeguards and remove problems. To that extent, I guess I put on blinders in this forum where I really strive to just have fun, talk to cool people and learn. There are soooo many other warning signs with these two individuals that are less defined, but trigger my intuition honed after years of seeing similar indicators. Heck, most of the time I have to reign in my cynicism to afford the opportunity for those goals, but also so that other people don't think I am just an Ahole lol.

For those who haven't learned how to identify scammers the hard way, or those who have way too much faith in humans, the very first indicator that these two were trouble was their initial post history. Not that they joined in close proximity, and not that they lifted publicly available images. Look at what they said and how they contributed. They both came in and spent their first 10-20 posts in the forum welcoming other members to the forum. They had been in the forum for a day, and had already given warm salutations to 20 other new members. Hard to just publicly call them out on that alone, but in hindsight and with a discerning eye, it is apparent these clowns were trying to create an illusion of authority and trust.

If anyone in here sees flags but doesn't want to immediately call a person out publicly, send me a message. I enjoy sleuthing and am pretty good at seeing the weeds in the field. I refuse to treat this forum as a room I am obligated to moderate, but if I have time I will gladly assist a personal request.

 

[Area 51]

Well i could just fly down to our Denver office and invite this fellow to lunch.
Hardly worth the effort but is tempting.
Then i need to run him and gather more info, again the effort, or doing nothing and enjoying the entertainment.

 

[Area 51]

So if a possible victim says ill take them what happens next?
How does the scam execute?

 

[DubDub]

So if a possible victim says ill take them what happens next?
How does the scam execute?

Then the scammer tries to secure payment ahead of shipment, either via a payment method with no buyer protection or through a fraudulent link if looking to fully swindle the victim. They run the same scam as many times as possible in as long as timeframe as they can manage without getting caught. Bogus tracking numbers are the next step.

 

[DubDub]

Well i could just fly down to our Denver office and invite this fellow to lunch.
Hardly worth the effort but is tempting.
Then i need to run him and gather more info, again the effort, or doing nothing and enjoying the entertainment.

Definitely a waste of time. The scammer is 99% likely not providing a real name, and very likely not in the location they claim to be in. This guy would have been defending himself with reckless abandon if there was any chance of any of their profile being legit.

 

[t3lcfe]

I hate scammers. Find real job to feed yourself and your family. Never get wealth by stealing others’ $ …

 

[tvh]

 

[Esquire]

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At first blush, this response appears to be very unstatesmanlike....

The drafter would be an absolute shoe-in for a cabinet position.

 

[RideWithYanu]

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What’s hilarious is this is the exact vernacular the phone scammers (“this is the IRS calling from an overseas call center”) switch to as soon as they realize you’ve made their scam.

As a godforsaken nitwitt myself, I feel left out by not receiving any hate mail.

 

[DubDub]

What’s hilarious is this is the exact vernacular the phone scammers (“this is the IRS calling from an overseas call center”) switch to as soon as they realize you’ve made their scam.

As a godforsaken nitwitt myself, I feel left out by not receiving any hate mail.

You!?! I should have gotten some hate mail darnit! I earned that at least.

 

[Blue Sky]

I appreciate the community effort in keeping this forum on point.

I take it personal when these grifters use Denver as a point of sale. If something is for sale to ship out of Denver or the surrounding area and you have doubts. Pls send me a DM and I will do what I can to verify on my end.

 

[Esquire]

I appreciate the community effort in keeping this forum on point.

I take it personal when these grifters use Denver as a point of sale. If something is for sale to ship out of Denver or the surrounding area and you have doubts. Pls send me a DM and I will do what I can to verify on my end.

Can you believe this guy? A guy claiming he is from Denver and will help us "weed out" the bad egg grifters.

His avatar picture is of a dock and a lake. There's not a Colorado Rocky Mountain in sight....