Air dam impact test (small sample)

[robsurfskate]

Toyota put them there for a reason. Mine stay on.

 

[DubDub]

Toyota put them there for a reason. Mine stay on.

They also put 245/70-18s on 1958s for a reason, along with chrome iforcemax badges and giant hitch covers across the production line . The tires were to satisfy their need at the expense of the consumer, the second a poor aesthetic choice, and the third a fiscally motivated bandaid.

Add to that the third row holdovers from non-hybrid consumer bases, subscription based interfaces and applications, piano black accents, weak seat heaters, lack of defrosters in mirrors of 1958s, handicapped speaker circuitry, the inoperable 1958 hatch speakers….

I’m not complaining here, just expounding upon the logic. I know you’ve swapped some stuff out on your ride, so does that logic apply only to the air dams for you?

 

[MSINAL]

No kidding... next test will be to analyze milage improvements by folding side view mirrors while driving in downtown NYC.

I've monitored my mpg live on highway while folding the mirrors in/out, makes no difference. It does make it quieter.
Ahh, you're being sarcastic - disregard!

 

[DubDub]

I've monitored my mpg live on highway while folding the mirrors in/out, makes no difference. It does make it quieter.
Ahh, you're being sarcastic - disregard!

I have maybe done this as well. If indeed I had, I would have (likely) drawn the same conclusions as you.

 

[robsurfskate]

They also put 245/70-18s on 1958s for a reason, along with chrome iforcemax badges and giant hitch covers across the production line . The tires were to satisfy their need at the expense of the consumer, the second a poor aesthetic choice, and the third a fiscally motivated bandaid.

Add to that the third row holdovers from non-hybrid consumer bases, subscription based interfaces and applications, piano black accents, weak seat heaters, lack of defrosters in mirrors of 1958s, handicapped speaker circuitry, the inoperable 1958 hatch speakers….

I’m not complaining here, just expounding upon the logic. I know you’ve swapped some stuff out on your ride, so does that logic apply only to the air dams for you?

They also put 245/70-18s on 1958s for a reason, along with chrome iforcemax badges and giant hitch covers across the production line . The tires were to satisfy their need at the expense of the consumer, the second a poor aesthetic choice, and the third a fiscally motivated bandaid.

Add to that the third row holdovers from non-hybrid consumer bases, subscription based interfaces and applications, piano black accents, weak seat heaters, lack of defrosters in mirrors of 1958s, handicapped speaker circuitry, the inoperable 1958 hatch speakers….

I’m not complaining here, just expounding upon the logic. I know you’ve swapped some stuff out on your ride, so does that logic apply only to the air dams for you?

I changed the tires and kept the factory wheels. I replaced the center hubs with heritage toyota in bronze. I removed the i-force max badge. I swaped out the diaper for the spare I found in the rear storage area, which looks fine. I like the cup holders in the third row area along with the additional chargers. My apple car play works and the speakers sound good. Other than that, it's all OEM and plan to keep my modifications minimal.

 

[DubDub]

I changed the tires and kept the factory wheels. I replaced the center hubs with heritage toyota in bronze. I removed the i-force max badge. I swaped out the diaper for the spare I found in the rear storage area, which looks fine. I like the cup holders in the third row area along with the additional chargers. My apple car play works and the speakers sound good. Other than that, it's all OEM and plan to keep my modifications minimal.

Yes, that’s what I said

Also, I hope that you are picking up the immense amount of sarcasm. I don’t care what anybody does to their cruiser. I just saw a logic loop and decided to poke at it.

Edit: Inconsistency Fallacy, not logic loop. My philosophy classes are many years in my past. Specifically, the “Unalowed Exception” of applying a logic rule to one argument, but ignoring that logic rule for all other similar arguments.

 

[robsurfskate]

Yes, that’s what I said

Also, I hope that you are picking up the immense amount of sarcasm. I don’t care what anybody does to their cruiser. I just saw a logic loop and decided to poke at it.

Yes, that’s what I said

Also, I hope that you are picking up the immense amount of sarcasm. I don’t care what anybody does to their cruiser. I just saw a logic loop and decided to poke at it.

all good dude.

 

[Jersey Skier]

I changed the tires and kept the factory wheels. I replaced the center hubs with heritage toyota in bronze. I removed the i-force max badge. I swaped out the diaper for the spare I found in the rear storage area, which looks fine. I like the cup holders in the third row area along with the additional chargers. My apple car play works and the speakers sound good. Other than that, it's all OEM and plan to keep my modifications minimal.

I was right there with you until you said the speakers sound good.;)

 

[robsurfskate]

I was right there with you until you said the speakers sound good.;)

Good, not great.

 

[6-funk]

I took mine off when I installed some victory skid plates. I was averaging 17 to 18 mpg. I took off the skids and put all the aero gear back on and now I'm up to 19-20 sometimes higher. This is predominantly City driving. Now I understand these results are confounding, being that I changed 2 variables, but I'm definitely enjoying the results!

 

[AlexGates]

I know when I removed the air dam from my previous full size p/u I lost some smoothness as well as line keeping at speed on the interstate, something about air flow over tires. Something beyond mpg to think about, if you don’t off road and require the clearance.

The dam on the Taco looks ridiculous, I don’t blame people for removing them. Oddly, I find it less offensive on the 4R, maybe it being an SUV balances things out.

 

[DubDub]

I know when I removed the air dam from my previous full size p/u I lost some smoothness as well as line keeping at speed on the interstate, something about air flow over tires. Something beyond mpg to think about, if you don’t off road and require the clearance.

The dam on the Taco looks ridiculous, I don’t blame people for removing them. Oddly, I find it less offensive on the 4R, maybe it being an SUV balances things out.

The dams on the non-Pro Sequoia and Tundra are even worse than the Tacos. It was thrown away the same day we brought it home. I will admit that I began hearing turbulence in the front wheel wells post-removal of my LC dams. I also feel a small amount of accompanying drag, especially in highway speed curves. Being an overly conservative driver, however, I’ve never experienced any tracking issues. Unless passing, my LC never exceeds 65mph for any sustained period.

 

[GR8Santini]

The higher grade 3G Tundras have a nice elegant solution for road use with an active spoiler. ECU runs a motorized front spoiler logic that deploys around 37 mph & folds back up when you go back below. Never see them when a Tundra is parked for higher chin clearance. Aftermarket makes delete kits for high speed off road driving to keep them folded up. TRD Pro & Tundras w/ factory TRD 3” lift don’t come w/ active spoiler.

 

[LCDakota]

I know when I removed the air dam from my previous full size p/u I lost some smoothness as well as line keeping at speed on the interstate, something about air flow over tires. Something beyond mpg to think about, if you don’t off road and require the clearance.

The dam on the Taco looks ridiculous, I don’t blame people for removing them. Oddly, I find it less offensive on the 4R, maybe it being an SUV balances things out.

The LC air dams are noticeable but not nearly as rough as the full width ones on the Tacoma and 4Runner. I decided to keep them on

 

[AlexGates]

The LC air dams are noticeable but not nearly as rough as the full width ones on the Tacoma and 4Runner. I decided to keep them on

Same, I’m not off roading the thing and the air damn doesn’t bother me. My new full size has an automatic one, so problem solved there.