Toyo AT3 EV - First Impressions

[rschoi_75]

Here's what I'm noticing after a few hundred miles.

• Trips between 5-10 miles with stop and go traffic: Efficiency is significantly less than the stock dunlop PT22 all season tires at ~15-16mpg. My city is at the foothills of a medium sized mountain range, so my local driving is mostly going up and down hills. The stock tires were doing around 17-18mpg locally.
• Trips over 20 miles w/ highway driving: Efficiency is almost as good as the stock tires at ~20mpg.

Aside from efficiency, the ride quality is about as good as you're going to get with AT tires if you get the SL load rated version.

 

[dw2]

What prices are ya'll paying for 4-5 EV SL tires? last i checked on America's tire company for my area (silicon Valley) is around $2400 for 5 tires installed with insurance. sometimes they have -$80 deals for Toyo.

Got my 18" TRD wheels waiting on tires

I paid $2065 for 5 at Discount Tire installed including tax, and then got $100 off from a mail in coupon.

 

[MJMarroni]

I have a FE too and swapped out rock rails for running boards - have a 2 year old kiddo so that makes it easier for her to get in and out - and ended up getting about 0.5-1mpg better.

I checked with my Toyota guy and also the local Cap World. Toyota told me they would have to replace body trim and Cap World said they don't make brackets yet for aftermarket running boards. How did you do it? Thanks!!!

 

[Swerdna]

I checked with my Toyota guy and also the local Cap World. Toyota told me they would have to replace body trim and Cap World said they don't make brackets yet for aftermarket running boards. How did you do it? Thanks!!!

I went the other way. Running boards to rock rails (oem for both) and no trim changes needed. Just bolts right up.

Sell you some OEM Running boards cheep if you ever come down to central Pennsylvania.

 

[BMFS33]

I went with the 275/70R18 116T SL rated tire w/ 2024 Tacoma 18" TRD wheels in +55 offset.

I really like those rims and would love to run them. Did you order those from Toyota and how did you know what offset to order?

I just bought one of these tires in 275/70/18 for my spare because I’m going to run them when I take off my Hakka snows that I’m getting installed in the same size on Saturday. There is t much to read on them but I want a SL AT and in that size I didn’t find many. I also like the lower weight on these tires vs the other tires I considered. Toyo AT3, Faulken AT4s and KO3s. KO is supposedly coming out with a SL in February so we’ll see how those spec out. The price on these EV tires is steep.

 

[basicxj]

I just got a set mounted up today, we’ll see how they do.

 

[rschoi_75]

I really like those rims and would love to run them. Did you order those from Toyota and how did you know what offset to order?

I got them from a local shop off FB marketplace. I'm assuming the shop buys take off wheels cheaply, and powder coat them to re-sell at a profit. The offset on the 2024 Tacoma wheels are almost the same as the premium option 20" wheels (+60mm) that came with my LCLC, so I just assumed it would work with slightly larger tires.

 

[Scrappopatamus]

I ordered a qty of 5, 275/70/18 Toyo Open Country AT3 EV/ E Range @ $350.64 each plus tax yesterday to install on Sequoia / Tundra BBS 18" Forged TRD Pro Rims. I found the EV tire on Toyo's site when reviewing Specs for the standard OC-AT3- E Range tire. I watched several reviews from Rivian owners which didn't offer much insight. It appears that running these tires on my new wheels will yield approximately the same weight and OD as the 20" stock rims and Yokohamas that came standard on my vehicle. I plan to have the tires mounted at the dealership considering possible TMPS issues when performed elsewhere. I also ordered Dobisons 3 way adjustable suspension w/2" front lift and rear level set-up. BTW, I have 5 new Take Off wheels like @rschoi_75 is running on his rig. I considered rattle canning one of these to see what powder coating would reveal. Those look excellent all black but are totally FUGLY with the silver lip. I have 5 of these that came off our TRD Off Road P I-Max should anyone have a desire??

 

[basicxj]

Those TRD Pro BBS wheels are an excellent choice. If I could have located a set for a fair price I would have been happy. I had the same tire mounted up on TRD 18" Tacoma wheels with new Toyota sensors at the dealer. I did have some TPMS issues afterwards, but it was nothing a scanner app and the menus on the Land Cruiser could not work out afterwards...though it took a couple of tries.

Tire (and a few wheel) options spreadsheet

I see people hunting for this spreadsheet, maybe it should have a post of its own. (But also please see/search the Tire Upgrade thread!) I started compiling info on tire options while waiting for a Land Cruiser, shared the spreadsheet, and people say it's helpful. So here you go. This...

www.landcruiserforum.com

According to the spreadsheet Markarian421 made up, those tires should be about 43lbs each with 33.2" outside diameter- you'll come out with a slightly larger diameter than the stock 20" with less weight. I only have about 1000km on mine so far. I am liking the tires, and can feel the wider offset in the steering response (not necessarily in a bad way) and the transmission's behaviour has changed a small amount with the larger diameter. It upshifts a little sooner than it did with the stock tires. I had hoped the speedo would be bang on with the larger tires, but when checking with a GPS speedo app before/after the tire change, the vehicle has adjusted to continue reading a slightly higher than actual speed like it did on the OEM wheels & tires.

 

[Scrappopatamus]

Those TRD Pro BBS wheels are an excellent choice. If I could have located a set for a fair price I would have been happy. I had the same tire mounted up on TRD 18" Tacoma wheels with new Toyota sensors at the dealer. I did have some TPMS issues afterwards, but it was nothing a scanner app and the menus on the Land Cruiser could not work out afterwards...though it took a couple of tries.

Tire (and a few wheel) options spreadsheet

I see people hunting for this spreadsheet, maybe it should have a post of its own. (But also please see/search the Tire Upgrade thread!) I started compiling info on tire options while waiting for a Land Cruiser, shared the spreadsheet, and people say it's helpful. So here you go. This...

www.landcruiserforum.com

According to the spreadsheet Markarian421 made up, those tires should be about 43lbs each with 33.2" outside diameter- you'll come out with a slightly larger diameter than the stock 20" with less weight. I only have about 1000km on mine so far. I am liking the tires, and can feel the wider offset in the steering response (not necessarily in a bad way) and the transmission's behaviour has changed a small amount with the larger diameter. It upshifts a little sooner than it did with the stock tires. I had hoped the speedo would be bang on with the larger tires, but when checking with a GPS speedo app before/after the tire change, the vehicle has adjusted to continue reading a slightly higher than actual speed like it did on the OEM wheels & tires.

You can find the BBS Tundra / Sequoia wheels for $759 each NIB from dealers which is usually a tad bit less expensive than the take offs found on the internet. Sometimes you find them them with the Wildpeaks, but I wasn't interested in those. I reached out to several sellers who wouldn't budge on price and they're still holding their wheels. Maybe they payed too much, but I'm guessing most are looking to monopolize considering everyone seems to like this set-up? I tend to hang on to vehicles that I like, and so far I'm liking my LC.

 

[MSQ]

I ordered a qty of 5, 275/70/18 Toyo Open Country AT3 EV/ E Range @ $350.64 each plus tax yesterday to install on Sequoia / Tundra BBS 18" Forged TRD Pro Rims. I found the EV tire on Toyo's site when reviewing Specs for the standard OC-AT3- E Range tire. I watched several reviews from Rivian owners which didn't offer much insight other than having to watch a continual add for a specific liberal politician. Not looking to get off in the weeds on politics, but confused what politics has to do with tire reviews? It appears that running these tires on my new wheels will yield approximately the same weight and OD as the 20" stock rims and Yokohamas that came standard on my vehicle. I plan to have the tires mounted at the dealership considering possible TMPS issues when performed elsewhere. I also ordered Dobisons 3 way adjustable suspension w/2" front lift and rear level set-up. BTW, I have 5 new Take Off wheels like @rschoi_75 is running on his rig. I considered rattle canning one of these to see what powder coating would reveal. Those look excellent all black but are totally FUGLY with the silver lip. I have 5 of these that came off our TRD Off Road P I-Max should anyone have a desire??

This is the exact combo I went with on my 1958. I was able to find 5 BBS Tundra wheels on Craigslist for $500/wheel. Discount Tire took the TPMS from my stock wheels and installed them into the new wheels without issue. I weighed each wheel/tire combo and found that the BBS wheels w/ Toyo combo is roughly 3 lbs. heavier per wheel than the stock 1958 wheels (the dinky ones). For a set of 5, that's only 15 extra lbs, 12 of that being unsprung weight. I did not drive much on the original set, but so far on the BBS/Toyo setup, I'm still averaging between 22 and 24 mpg on the highway (this is with a gentle foot). Very unscientific measuring, so take that FWIW.

The ride is great! Feels just as good as stock. I do think the smaller offset and associated poke adds a small amount of wind noise at high speeds, but nothing too egregious. I'm happy with the way it turned out. Looks a lot better too!

 

[cozen_cruiser250]

Anyone else have updates on the Toyo at3 EV tires? Specifically the 275/70/18 SL ones in the rain/snow/offroad?

 

[basicxj]

Anyone else have updates on the Toyo at3 EV tires? Specifically the 275/70/18 SL ones in the rain/snow/offroad?

I've got about 3000 km on mine so far. Rain, dry performance is great. They are not noticeably louder than the 20" Yokohama street tires they replaced. I haven't had them offroad yet, and snow has been fleeting.

 

[cozen_cruiser250]

I've got about 3000 km on mine so far. Rain, dry performance is great. They are not noticeably louder than the 20" Yokohama street tires they replaced. I haven't had them offroad yet, and snow has been fleeting.

How about any fuel economy change?

 

[basicxj]

How about any fuel economy change?

I was averaging 13.4L/100km on the original 20" wheels and street tires. I have been averaging 13.2-13.3L/100km on the Toyos on 18" alloys since install in spite of the switch to winter fuel blends.

 

[basicxj]

That would be 17.5mpg on 20's to 17.6mpg on 18's. Not earth shattering, but not a hit either.

 

[cozen_cruiser250]

That would be 17.5mpg on 20's to 17.6mpg on 18's. Not earth shattering, but not a hit either.

Not taking a hit is a win in my book

 

[basicxj]

If I encounter some snow (and I do want to), I will report back on how they do. It has been unseasonably mild. We have it on the mountains here, and last Wednesday after I arrived at work it hailed and turned into about 1 1/2" of slush, but I was already committed to working at that point. I have been meaning to kidnap my wife and take her up one of the local ski hills to see what we find on the road.

 

[Scrappopatamus]

So far very happy with having had purchased these. I've recently performed a few performance mods on my LC and have been switching between Sport, Normal and Eco and my mileage seems to have suffered. I'm currently showing 17.9 mpg. I have another set of these ordered for my 4Runner TRD PRO.

 

[BMFS33]

I know these are lighter than the standard ATs. Does anyone know how many ply’s each is? Wondering about airing down these tires…