Bummer. What modifications had you made to it?
Most Disappointing Vehicle Ive Owned
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Just curious - any thoughts about trying to Lemon Law your LC? Does it even apply in your state?
I've also had a full transmission replaced and get pretty bad MPG but i gotta say, I still love this little blue beast. Still get excited every time I get inside, or even just walk by, or see it out the window. 
You are a Toyota employee or your source is a Toyota employee?
I am not a Toyota employee, my source is.
Gotta love the internet. These threads always devolve into debates and internet conjecture.
1. So sorry your LC had trouble. It sucks when it happens to anyone who just purchased any vehicle.
2. Iβm very sure Toyota will take care of you in the long run.
3. Dealers arenβt a very credible source of information, unfortunately, their employees talk authoritatively even when they have no real information, kinda like some folks on an Internet forum. Lol.
1. So sorry your LC had trouble. It sucks when it happens to anyone who just purchased any vehicle.
2. Iβm very sure Toyota will take care of you in the long run.
3. Dealers arenβt a very credible source of information, unfortunately, their employees talk authoritatively even when they have no real information, kinda like some folks on an Internet forum. Lol.
I would be curious to know if the OP has a Hino built or Tahara built cruiser???
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What difference would the assembly plant make?
You understand that engines and transmissions are made in another plant and delivered to Humura or Tahara right?
You understand that engines and transmissions are made in another plant and delivered to Humura or Tahara right?
+1 on dealer "information". I actually see them as the primary source of dis-information, aka telling you what you need to hear to get you out of their face, or get you to calm down. Not a ding on you, OP. But I'll reserve the Toyota-is-shit feedback until we see proper documentation on failure rates, as even the tightest manufacturing and QC controls will produce the occasional lemon.
In cases like this I wonder if the low MPG is related to the failing transmission, etc..
I only get MPG that low if I spend all day off road.
For those on here who have had transmission failures, were there modifications to the truck? Would love to know if there is a correlation to larger tires, extra weight, etc.
Regardless it is concerning, albeit, very hard to know the true probability of occurrence from a forum.
Regardless it is concerning, albeit, very hard to know the true probability of occurrence from a forum.
thru September 11, 2025.....62,114 Toyota Land Cruiser 250 have been sold in the US. that's 1/10 of 1% facing transmission issues. 1 in 970 units.
Yes, I think that's higher than a normal failure rate for Toyota, but certainly would need to know how many are exacerbated by after market modifications, off road use, or even perhaps Toyota being more generous than other makers in diagnosing and committing to a replacement.
I also think there are so many stories of folks having to reset these transmissions, which I think is almost totally the result of driving style and can perhaps even lead some of the less sophisticated service departments to diagnose fixable issues incorrectly.
Yes, I think that's higher than a normal failure rate for Toyota, but certainly would need to know how many are exacerbated by after market modifications, off road use, or even perhaps Toyota being more generous than other makers in diagnosing and committing to a replacement.
I also think there are so many stories of folks having to reset these transmissions, which I think is almost totally the result of driving style and can perhaps even lead some of the less sophisticated service departments to diagnose fixable issues incorrectly.
Thanks for clarifying. Sounds like the realm of rumor, which is at least good for some internet hypothesizing.
If you fact check the speedometer with GPS, it's actually correct on 34s. Consider that if you will.
What are the lemon laws in your state? 11 weeks sure sounds like it fits into that category.
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I was curious about that too.
My LC premium is still stock, and during the summer has been running around on the 20β wheels with the stock Dunlops.
Our average between myself and my wife is 18.6 MPG and that is virtually all short trips from a cold start in town.
On highway runs cruising at 75 MPH it consistently returns about 23.5 MPG. If I slow it down to 65 MPH it will give us about 26 MPG sometimes a bit more.
Just went past the 9700 mile mark yesterday running down to Chadron, NE and back to Hot Springs, SD to take my son to pre-season wrestling practice.
Not that it matters at this point but I changed engine oil at 1200, 5000, and 9500 miles. Toyota covered the last one. Engine has used no oil, and oil has come out with no excessive fuel odors, or anything else of concern.
That is saying that every vehicle out there with a built in 1-2mph safety factor is running on undersized tires..HMMMM. On the other hand, I had it explained to me years back ...source??? that many speedos are set up for the largest sized tires they could expect to be used, thus avoiding legal issues with the excuse I was doing 60 on speedo but got a ticket for 62 (ex. +12 in a 50 zone, typical where ticketing often starts. meaning at +10mph over indicated). Might be complete BS but it sort of makes sense.
Let's hope a boat load of parts are sitting in port held up by the inconsistency of tariffs presently. This is actually a pretty true statement . many supply chains have been interupted this summer., just when they were leveling off after COVID.
Honestly, take a breath, there are too many variables, known and unknown, to account for to make guesses at causes and failure rates. I saw this on the Tundra forums with the turbos, then the engines, which actually turned out to be a thing. Iβve seen it on the Tacoma forums unfolding the same way, lots of LOUD usually non-owner voices claiming doom and gloom. My daughter has 36k miles on her βrecalledβ transmission in her 24 Tacoma. No issues at all.
Thereβs no conclusion that can be made here that Toyota doesnβt already have the answer to, and theyβre not sharing.
Best of luck to the OP.
Thereβs no conclusion that can be made here that Toyota doesnβt already have the answer to, and theyβre not sharing.
Best of luck to the OP.
I am new to Toyota as well and part of the issue I see is the level of arrogance of Toyota and their loyal customers that can not admit that there is something wrong with anything. On my 20+ years of going to trails and rockcrawling, I have seen a lot more Toyotas broken down on the trails that I have seen Jeeps or Fords, not to even talk about the capabilities when offroading. Yes Toyota has a great reputation around the world, but they also break down and every so often will have problems with reliability and their customer service is terrible when that happens because they do not admit it and the customer is always wrong. Wish Toyota will learn something from Mazda. Please Stop the arrogance and making feel other people feel as if somehow is their fault that their Toyotas are failing.
Your experience doesnβt match mine. I have had some minor issues with my truck that I would honestly blame myself for, and Toyota bent over backwards to make it right at zero cost to me.
I donβt really care if people donβt like Toyota or their vehicles - Iβm irritated by the folks who seem desperate to convince those who are happy with their vehicles and Toyota that they shouldnβt be.
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