Looking for experiences using FLEX, or suggestions of alternatives

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A 70-series, non-Prado, sitting in my driveway for the rest of my life. Can’t get it out of my head. Not a daily driver, but a whenever a want kind of thing. I’ve completely stopped buying mods for the 250, she’s just perfect the way she is (for now). It’s not going anywhere, just getting realistic about what I am willing to put her through vs. what I want. Now all of my fun money is being shoveled into an imminent import of a 2001 or older diesel.

Looking for anyone’s experience using Retrofit Land Cruisers and Tacomas in San Diego, CA - FLEX Automotive, or any better outfits out there. I’ve almost pulled the trigger on a few 80s and 100s, but it’s just gotta be a 70. Primarily looking to see if these importers are legitimate, how deep the hidden costs run, and how easy they are to work with. Yes, I could go back to IH8MUD, but I’m in a good mental space and don’t want to deal with the ridiculously territorial and opinionated bunch of LC patriarchs over there. TIA. Let my journey begin…
 
Just curious- why '01 as the line?

Wish I had something of value to offer, it looks like a great way to go on the outside
You can’t import newer than 25 years. Federal emissions and safety laws enforced by the NHTSA. 2001 is the newest you can go.

I imported an old Opel from Spain years ago. It was 25 years back then too. Luckily I had the transport on lock courtesy of the government and tariffs were then near zero. No longer the case.
 
@Mopper they have to be 25 years old or older to be emissions exempt in the US minus commi CA.

@DubDub I'd see if you can connect with anyone North of the Boarder either via PM on IH8MUD or Facebook they have been importing for much longer than us as they only have to wait 15 years. I picked up my HDJ81 out of Canada by a chance You tube video.

I too looked at FLEX, they are legitimate but wasn't too keen on going that route unless I could go either to a Japan auction or see them in person. The problem I kept running into was allot of them come with repainted undercarriages from the importers and that is a big red flag to me.

My paperwork from when the PO imported was just one sheet from the auction place stating not much other than vehicle details, some minor condition information and as is sale pretty much the same info you can find online from the auction importers.

Depending upon price point you can also work with some of them ask for specific vehicle conditions, model and specifications and money you're willing to put up for auction and they will search for a vehicle that matches and send you some info and decide if and how to proceed at the auction on your behalf.

I want a 70 series troopy but don't think I'd import unless going to a Japan auction in person to look it over first or wait until one in the US or Canada comes up. I'm still torn on them though as all parts are import so things can add up quick on one, it's the same reason I backed out of purchasing a KZJ78 never sold here nor an equivalent us model sold either. This is the reason I went with the HDJ81 for now, you can also look in middle east as well but those will likely have been used allot harder than the Japanese market. Suspension wise you would be ok on parts for body, electrical, body and allot of power train items will be import only.

That said some of the Land Cruiser specialist like Terrain Tamer/Valley Hybrids/Cruiser Brothers same point of contact, Cruiser Outfitters and some other smaller places do have some import parts in country in their stock.

If you can see it in person to look over and have a better idea what you're walking into and find one that hasn't been touched as far as paint then I'd go for it, otherwise could be quite costly. Guess allot depends on what kind of condition you want it to be in, reliable and ready to drive but maybe has interior, body and electrical items that aren't quite right or turn-key minus paint, body and normal interior wear??

For instance, if it needs an axle and brake rebuild like I'm doing now you're in for 3k or more in parts alone and these are all stateside already so no import. You need an ECU or switch its most likely NLA from Toyota and may or may not be available anywhere you can find or a simple switch or sensor can go for $500 in some cases for a used operational unit. This is the case even with USDM 80 series as well, once they get his old some of the parts that Toyota no longer makes become so rare and fetch allot of cash when someone decides to sell a part you need.

So, if you are like me and want that stuff mostly OEM and want everything to function then it's best to get one already in that condition or as close to it as you can afford. It will be cheaper in the long run this way and save your sanity and time in searching for what you need.

I can't say for sure but I don't think there are hidden costs with FLEX, it lists shipping, you'll be responsible for import duties though which weren't bad for mine. I wanna say all the fees to get it on the road (no shipping required) were 2k for me and all the paperwork with plates in hand and title in the mail was done in about 1 hour at the border and 30 minutes at the DMV.

Good Luck in your search!
 
Thanks @Bad1975, great info and a lot of confirmation of what I was thinking. I’m accustomed to 60s and early 70s USDM woes, and can easily see how those woes would be exacerbated by not having the domestic aftermarket support. To be completely transparent, I’m going to cap my initial cost at $50k, which I believe should be sufficient to get an immediately drivable example. I want to import straight from Japan because I have been there, driven equivalent year models, and am familiar with how they age on island. I also have some reliable points of contact over on Oki and in Yokosuka who would likely do in-person video calls and look at things for me. But, the naive part of me was hoping there was a reputable, reliable and trustworthy company that would take that stress out of the mix.

Again, thanks a ton. I’m after a VX 4-door heavy duty, and I am patient. I’d like to get a 76, but will need to wait until 2031 for that.
 
@DubDub No worries.

I can check around next time I'm in country or maybe if my Wife has time in December when she is there? She might be able to inquire with FLEX or another auction house if you have contact information and questions you'd like asked. She is Japanese so no lost in translation business happening. DM if you want, I have allot of contacts in Yokosuka and Yokohama areas, I'd have to see if anyone would be willing to do some digging?

You'd have to come to Moab sometime and let me ride along though!?
 
If Dub brings the 70, Bad the 80, I’ll bring the cold drinks to Moab!

Coldness not guaranteed
 
If Dub brings the 70, Bad the 80, I’ll bring the cold drinks to Moab!

Coldness not guaranteed
Just get a 40 or a 100 and join. This is for sure happening, even my wife knows it which says a lot. Worst case I’m waiting until 2031.

@Bad1975 I will reach out here after I get back from my upcoming out-of-country event starting here in a week. MOAB would be easy since the dream is to take delivery on the west coast and take it on a slow, 2-week interstate trip back home to NC. I’m gonna bond with it in the best way.
 
Just get a 40 or a 100 and join.
My current top three desired would be:
70 (fav: HZJ76K)
80 (fav: HDJ81V VX)
HZJ105 (solid axle diesel hundy!)

I will follow this thread and your experience closely, because I’ve been noodling a 27-28 timeline.
 
My current top three desired would be:
70 (fav: HZJ76K)
80 (fav: HDJ81V VX)
HZJ105 (solid axle diesel hundy!)

I will follow this thread and your experience closely, because I’ve been noodling a 27-28 timeline.
That’s my timeline I think too, but could jump sooner for the right situation. I am serious though, even cancelled my backordered full-length roof rack order to start putting the money aside.

Once the actual journey is in motion I’ll start a new thread. I’m still looking for suggestions on alternative ways to skin this cat.
 


There are a couple on my local Marketplace. The second example listed at $65K CDN, $45,773 USD
I wish there was a way to bring either of those down here! I’d snatch that white one up in a hurry.
 
Torfab in Everett has a 70 series UTE sitting on top a CONEX box I pass every day on the way to work.
 
I'm selling my boat next year, maybe I'll buy a fourth and fifth?

There are ways to have a current model as well at least in Canada. I haven't checked but you could probably get away with the same here? Have to import the body and interior, can also bring the frame and then build it from there. There is a guy north of the border doing this now and has a You tube channel, he is putting a 70 series troopy on an 80 series frame that he stretched. He imported a brand new body and frame, no interior.

It was also rumored that Lil and Jake Australia Youtube channel are selling there troopy stateside he also helped the guy in Canada All Terrain Trails with the frame swap. They brought it over for a trip and want to sell it here. I've tried to find more info as I'd buy it even if I had to wait years to use it on road. Some of these when taken care of literally never drop in value.
Also been debating a pop top roof on my 80, love what it adds but not too keen on the look.
 
I'm selling my boat next year, maybe I'll buy a fourth and fifth?

There are ways to have a current model as well at least in Canada. I haven't checked but you could probably get away with the same here? Have to import the body and interior, can also bring the frame and then build it from there. There is a guy north of the border doing this now and has a You tube channel, he is putting a 70 series troopy on an 80 series frame that he stretched. He imported a brand new body and frame, no interior.

It was also rumored that Lil and Jake Australia Youtube channel are selling there troopy stateside he also helped the guy in Canada All Terrain Trails with the frame swap. They brought it over for a trip and want to sell it here. I've tried to find more info as I'd buy it even if I had to wait years to use it on road. Some of these when taken care of literally never drop in value.
Also been debating a pop top roof on my 80, love what it adds but not too keen on the look.
If I win the lottery, there will be signs…
 
Got this one today! Very detailed, complete interior with RHD or LHD, Complete engine bay and engine 1HD-T, complete working suspension, wheel, bumper, rack, steps and light options already chromed (will likely be painted, I hate chrome) and rubber offroad tread tires that turn and roll.

Found it NIB with original plastic wrapping still on the box!

Once it's done up there may be some trickery happening?

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