Lane tracing assist - garbage
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Works fine for me.
This. I used LTA on a 1700-mile trip, and it worked great with a few exceptions around more hard curves. With my hand at the top of the steering wheel, I saw the same issue. Holding the wheel at 7 or 5 worked perfectly.
I’ve noticed that I must apply some light pressure to the wheel for it to not complain every 5-10 seconds. I’ve been able to find the sweet spot with my right hand at 3 o’clock. I’ve heard of some Toyotas having capacitive steering wheels where no pressure is required but at least my LCLC doesn’t have it. Maybe premium or FE do? The LCLC doesn’t have the driver monitoring camera so possibly that will allow more leniency with applying pressure to the wheel?
All that to say that the LTA is somewhat disappointing to me too. I was hoping I could just barely hold the wheel and not have to worry about applying any pressure.
All that to say that the LTA is somewhat disappointing to me too. I was hoping I could just barely hold the wheel and not have to worry about applying any pressure.
Yeah, be careful on the highway with exits/off ramps that don't have a dashed line (most of them on interstates and on highways where I live in CO). The LTA often starts veering towards the exit at highway speeds and I have to jerk it back. And then it usually loses the lane for a second or two and disables LTA briefly. I've driven a 2023 Honda Odyessy extensively on road trips and the Honda has a superior system in this regard. It doesn't even require cruise control to be on to keep you centered in the lane like the LC does.
Mine is behaving like yours. It’s always nagging me, even with my hand on the wheel.
My larger complaint is that the lane keeping feature is poor. It steers out of lane and creates alarm drama as it fails. It also tries to take exit ramps on the Highway. Both rather unsafe. I used to own a Tesla and this completely sucks in comparison.
My larger complaint is that the lane keeping feature is poor. It steers out of lane and creates alarm drama as it fails. It also tries to take exit ramps on the Highway. Both rather unsafe. I used to own a Tesla and this completely sucks in comparison.
Mine works amazingly well. Slight hold down bottom around 5 o'clock position only, not death grip. Just did a 200 mile trip and basically drove 80% of the time like this, letting it change lanes etc. It's very good imo. Changing lanes is not bad either.
I've never gotten that message. Plenty of other annoying nanny messages. Mine did nearly pull me into a pylon the other day. I don't know what it read on the road but there was nothing there until there were pylons right in front of me. Luckily I corrected quickly but that was spooky.
LTA works perfectly on my 2024 1958.
Mine works extremely well. Often drive hundreds of miles with only light driver input. Although I have not read the specifics on the LC's tech, most lane keeping systems don't have a sensor that directly detects hand grip on the wheel. Instead, they rely on detecting "minor steering input" from the driver (not grip presence). Might be possible for a dealer to assist with adjusting sensitivity.
It requires a small amount of torque, not pressure. You can squeeze it to death and it won't satisfy the sensor (unless you are inadvertently putting a little torque on the wheel). Took me a while to figure out but the Ford and older Tesla system works the same way. Tesla is now hands free but you have to pay attention. On the Toyota, same as Ford, just rest a finger or your grip somewhere off center to lightly pull the wheel clockwise or counter clockwise just slightly. Ironically, where you notice you need to do this is on the straight aways, because the auto steer isn't "fighting" your grip. Note I have my driver attention camera warnings turned off because it was giving too many false warnings, but I don't think it plays into the system like it does on the Tesla (admittedly I'm not totally sure).
IDK but this is my favorite feature with 3.0.
I was hoping for $66,000 I would get a capacitive steering wheel. Once I got used to the amount of torque to apply it’s not bad at all, but I know Toyota has the tech so kinda sad they didn’t put it in the LC.
It detects your hands presence using its conductivity (like touch screens do) so no torque needs to be applied, it can sense your hand touching the wheel. From what Ive heard, the upper trims of sequoia have it.
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So it does have that in some form as I've often drive with two fingers lightly touching the wheel. But to my knowledge, as you mentioned, capacitance requires a metal surface. I have used conductive thread in some of the training devices I've made............ I wonder if they used a form of that.
I'm getting this error that it's about to disable itself every couple minutes as well. It often doesn't actually disable though. I've been using a light touch though because I've been under the impression that the steering wheel used capacitative touch sensing, but it seems like this may not be the case. I have a 1958, so maybe it has a different behavior though it seems unlikely because the steering wheels seem otherwise identical (except telescopic adjust).
There are very conflicting reports here, with some never seeing this error even with just lightly touching the steering wheel, and others noticing they need to apply pressure or torque to it. It makes it hard to know what's going on.
Cause could be any of the following:
1. There's actually something wrong with the system for those of us who are seeing this frequently when our hands are on the wheel.
2. Lower trims do not have capacitative touch steering wheels and have this issue more often, while higher trims can just lightly touch the wheel anywhere.
3. Those who are not seeing the issue have a habit of holding the wheel firmly or applying directional pressure.
There are very conflicting reports here, with some never seeing this error even with just lightly touching the steering wheel, and others noticing they need to apply pressure or torque to it. It makes it hard to know what's going on.
Cause could be any of the following:
1. There's actually something wrong with the system for those of us who are seeing this frequently when our hands are on the wheel.
2. Lower trims do not have capacitative touch steering wheels and have this issue more often, while higher trims can just lightly touch the wheel anywhere.
3. Those who are not seeing the issue have a habit of holding the wheel firmly or applying directional pressure.
I played with this a bit, so hope my comments to your questions help:
1. Maybe (defects are possible), but more likely in cases where it's not working the hands on the wheel are not applying steering force, just pressure, which is not what the sensor is looking for.
2. Definitely not capacitive touch on any trim - the system is not checking for "hands on the wheel". Requires driver to apply a light turning force (torque) to the steering wheel even when the car is tracking straight.
3. Correct, though you don't need to hold it firmly (though that likely results in the necessary torque, inadvertently). It's "directional" pressure if you want to call it that.
I'll add I wish it was capacitive, or that it only required torque during turns or when the camera can't see your eyes on the road. Unfortunately, it's like many other systems that requires a little bit of torque on the wheel.
1. Maybe (defects are possible), but more likely in cases where it's not working the hands on the wheel are not applying steering force, just pressure, which is not what the sensor is looking for.
2. Definitely not capacitive touch on any trim - the system is not checking for "hands on the wheel". Requires driver to apply a light turning force (torque) to the steering wheel even when the car is tracking straight.
3. Correct, though you don't need to hold it firmly (though that likely results in the necessary torque, inadvertently). It's "directional" pressure if you want to call it that.
I'll add I wish it was capacitive, or that it only required torque during turns or when the camera can't see your eyes on the road. Unfortunately, it's like many other systems that requires a little bit of torque on the wheel.
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