Gladiator Willy's

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Wife just moved on from a 2023 Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road back into a Jeep. We owned a 2021 JEEP JL 3.0 Turbo Diesel before the Rav4, but sold it due to our son putting unleaded in it. I went to the Jeep dealership and test drove the Wrangler and Gladiator before letting my wife know my thoughts.
First, both trims are Willy's with the 3.6 Pentastar, and automatics.
Driving them both, the roof area was ambiently warm the entire time, the road noise was crazy loud with the factory MT's, and the driving view was shrunken down.
After describing to her what they have and the deals she likes, the gladiator Willy's in an anvil color. It's a very nice color and reminds me of a darker lunar rock.
Drove it around some more after purchasing, and just can't make myself like the powertrain and the steering feel. It feels like you can crank the wheel forever to make a 90-degree turn, and the steering play is crazy. The 8 speed is nice, but with a lift and maybe 35's, I can see performance really going downhill without throwing more money at it for a regear.

To me, it is night and day driving the new Toyota LC I-Force Max powertrain vs a competitor's V6. It was one of those feelings where you expect more from other vehicles after reading about how bad the LC is from "Youtubers" but give up and just admit we own the best new vehicle sold today. The commanding view while driving, the planted driving experience, minimal road noise, and a better build quality overall, its just hard to beat.
 
“The commanding view while driving,”

This was my biggest surprise since I bought my LC and brings me the most joy while driving it. Visibility while driving is incredible. My wife loves riding in the LC because of this. Kind of like Surround Sound for the eyes!
 
Wife just moved on from a 2023 Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road back into a Jeep. We owned a 2021 JEEP JL 3.0 Turbo Diesel before the Rav4, but sold it due to our son putting unleaded in it. I went to the Jeep dealership and test drove the Wrangler and Gladiator before letting my wife know my thoughts.
First, both trims are Willy's with the 3.6 Pentastar, and automatics.
Driving them both, the roof area was ambiently warm the entire time, the road noise was crazy loud with the factory MT's, and the driving view was shrunken down.
After describing to her what they have and the deals she likes, the gladiator Willy's in an anvil color. It's a very nice color and reminds me of a darker lunar rock.
Drove it around some more after purchasing, and just can't make myself like the powertrain and the steering feel. It feels like you can crank the wheel forever to make a 90-degree turn, and the steering play is crazy. The 8 speed is nice, but with a lift and maybe 35's, I can see performance really going downhill without throwing more money at it for a regear.

To me, it is night and day driving the new Toyota LC I-Force Max powertrain vs a competitor's V6. It was one of those feelings where you expect more from other vehicles after reading about how bad the LC is from "Youtubers" but give up and just admit we own the best new vehicle sold today. The commanding view while driving, the planted driving experience, minimal road noise, and a better build quality overall, its just hard to beat.
With 35s on the jeep you will appreciate a regear. Regear is worth every penny plus you can install lockers or torsen diffs (axles, extra capacity diff covers too) while it's done and save on labor. I was hesitant to spend the cash but after the jeep is so much more fun to drive on and off the road.
 
Wife just moved on from a 2023 Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road back into a Jeep. We owned a 2021 JEEP JL 3.0 Turbo Diesel before the Rav4, but sold it due to our son putting unleaded in it. I went to the Jeep dealership and test drove the Wrangler and Gladiator before letting my wife know my thoughts.
First, both trims are Willy's with the 3.6 Pentastar, and automatics.
Driving them both, the roof area was ambiently warm the entire time, the road noise was crazy loud with the factory MT's, and the driving view was shrunken down.
After describing to her what they have and the deals she likes, the gladiator Willy's in an anvil color. It's a very nice color and reminds me of a darker lunar rock.
Drove it around some more after purchasing, and just can't make myself like the powertrain and the steering feel. It feels like you can crank the wheel forever to make a 90-degree turn, and the steering play is crazy. The 8 speed is nice, but with a lift and maybe 35's, I can see performance really going downhill without throwing more money at it for a regear.

To me, it is night and day driving the new Toyota LC I-Force Max powertrain vs a competitor's V6. It was one of those feelings where you expect more from other vehicles after reading about how bad the LC is from "Youtubers" but give up and just admit we own the best new vehicle sold today. The commanding view while driving, the planted driving experience, minimal road noise, and a better build quality overall, its just hard to beat.
I was very happy to get out of my modified Rubicon and get into my LC. Regear is a must if you move to 35’s and a heavy duty steering kit. Ball joints are a known issue so you may as well replace them. Metal Cloak, Rock Krawler and a few others are top tier kits. DONT GO CHEAP. You will regret it. With the ball joints, lift, and steering kit, it will track much better than stock.

The YouTube reviews are after clicks. I was skeptical about the iforce Max until I drove it. I absolutely think Toyota nailed this power train. With a tire upgrade to 275’s on my LC and some decent skids, I still go to places Offroad that I went in my Rubi. I’m just far more comfortable…lol. The LC is supremely capable.
 
The last time I had my Jeep JLU Sahara worked on before getting rid of it they gave me a loaner Gladiator. I couldn't stand it - compared to my JLU it felt like the Temu toy version, not sure why. It felt smaller and less rugged, and I wasn't a fan of the 8 speed either. To each their own though.
 
“The commanding view while driving,”

This was my biggest surprise since I bought my LC and brings me the most joy while driving it. Visibility while driving is incredible. My wife loves riding in the LC because of this. Kind of like Surround Sound for the eyes!
It's the first thing I noticed too when I test drove a LC. "Wow I can see everything in here." No weird blind spots either really, just a nice high view all around. Back in the early 90s I drove an Isuzu Trooper II and the view reminds me of that, but better.
 
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