Tongue Weight ??

[Shorty]

I think this is really important - (we call it tow ball weight)as it has to be included in the vehicles payload (max) weight which is only 580 kg or 1278 lbs on my Prado Altitude. My caravans tow ball weight is 170 kg 375 lbs which you have to take off the vehicles max payload which only leaves 410 kg 900 lbs - i have to take off the weight of my bull bar and winch 110 kg 242 lbs, the weight of 2 pax 180 kg 396. Things are starting to get skinny on the payload allowable - not sure if this include the weight of fuel, maybe a fridge and luggage as well. The transport police are cracking right down on this at the moment as there has been quite a lot of overloading vehicles and caravans as there have been accidents.

 

[MountainsCalled]

Totally agree. I've seen a bit of info regarding Toyota having taken both vehicles while under development to CA or NV, somewhere out West for towing tests, and they de-rated, or simply rated the LC at 6,000 and the GX at 9,000. This got me thinking about where the weak link is. Same chassis less KDSS on GX, but same frame, same brakes. The powertrain is obviously different, so I've got my dollar on the weak link being the LC's transmission as most of us have seen the "temp issues". All of this being said though, I still can't directly find Toyota published tongue weight, and am betting my next dollar on the the LC and GX having the same exact hitch, mounted to the same exact ladder frame etc. A 3,000 lb towing limit difference, but do they have the same tongue load limit????

Maybe you can see where I'm going with this......

250 Prado (Land Cruiser) in Australia is rated for 3,500kg (7,716 lbs) with the main difference from the US spec is powertrain and cooling differences. Safe to say it’s mostly powertrain that’s the difference with gx vs 250. KDSS also acts like a weight distribution system and then the batteries on the 250 are heavy eating up payload that could have been towing capacity would be my guess.

 

[ultane]

250 Prado (Land Cruiser) in Australia is rated for 3,500kg (7,716 lbs) with the main difference from the US spec is powertrain and cooling differences. Safe to say it’s mostly powertrain that’s the difference with gx vs 250. KDSS also acts like a weight distribution system and then the batteries on the 250 are heavy eating up payload that could have been towing capacity would be my guess.

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